Re: [Marxism] The Coming Worm Apocalypse Should Terrify You
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * On Mon, Aug 06, 2018 at 08:33:51AM -0700, Ken Hiebert via Marxism wrote: > > A point of English usage > Am I hopelessly out of date if I remind readers (and writers) that > decimate means to kill one in ten, not eight in ten? > ken h Sadly, you are correct but it seems hopeless to educate people. From https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/decimate: verb [with object] 1 Kill, destroy, or remove a large proportion of. ‘the inhabitants of the country had been decimated’ 1.1 Drastically reduce the strength or effectiveness of (something) ‘public transport has been decimated’ 2 historical Kill one in every ten of (a group of people, originally a mutinous Roman legion) as a punishment for the whole group. ‘the man who is to determine whether it be necessary to decimate a large body of mutineers’ Usage Historically, the meaning of the word decimate is ‘kill one in every ten of (a group of people)’. This sense has been more or less totally superseded by the later, more general sense ‘kill, destroy, or remove a large proportion of’, as in the virus has decimated the population. Some traditionalists argue that this is incorrect, but it is clear that it is now part of standard English Origin Late Middle English: from Latin decimat- ‘taken as a tenth’, from the verb decimare, from decimus ‘tenth’. In Middle English the term decimation denoted the levying of a tithe, and later the tax imposed by Cromwell on the Royalists (1655). _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] The Coming Worm Apocalypse Should Terrify You
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * ...and don't get me started on the misuse of "literally "... I heard someone say the other day, "my boss walked in, and I literally shat myself" I'm pretty certain he meant figuratively, or my guess is we wouldn't be colleagues any more. On Mon, 6 Aug 2018, 17:04 David McDonald via Marxism, < marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu> wrote: > POSTING RULES & NOTES > #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. > #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. > #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. > * > > Ken Hiebert, unfortunately, you are hopelessly out of date despite being > correct historically and etomologically. The most recent actual decimation > I'm aware of followed the unsuccessful May Uprising of 1919 in which a > barracks of Red solders was decimated by Freikorp goons. Nowadays it is > synonymous with massacre. > > I also lament the loss of the real meaning of unique in the morass of > impossible qualifiers: really unique, highly unique, most unique, more > unique. But then we have all kinds of words for things that cannot be, for > instance the sentence "It is inconceivable that...", a sentence that > contradicts itself when uttered. > > I am not happy with "I will try and explain this to you" as a meaningless > substitute for "I will try TO explain this to you." > > You got me started! > _ > Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm > Set your options at: > http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/nelsontim86%40gmail.com > _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] The Coming Worm Apocalypse Should Terrify You
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * Ken Hiebert, unfortunately, you are hopelessly out of date despite being correct historically and etomologically. The most recent actual decimation I'm aware of followed the unsuccessful May Uprising of 1919 in which a barracks of Red solders was decimated by Freikorp goons. Nowadays it is synonymous with massacre. I also lament the loss of the real meaning of unique in the morass of impossible qualifiers: really unique, highly unique, most unique, more unique. But then we have all kinds of words for things that cannot be, for instance the sentence "It is inconceivable that...", a sentence that contradicts itself when uttered. I am not happy with "I will try and explain this to you" as a meaningless substitute for "I will try TO explain this to you." You got me started! _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
[Marxism] The Coming Worm Apocalypse Should Terrify You
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * A point of English usage Am I hopelessly out of date if I remind readers (and writers) that decimate means to kill one in ten, not eight in ten? ken h _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] The Coming Worm Apocalypse Should Terrify You,
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * On 8/6/18 9:28 AM, DW via Marxism wrote: The book is still out on this and it's being studies but the consensus is slowly developing that invasive earth worm species are detrimental to forest health. As opposed to Weyerhaeuser et al? _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
[Marxism] The Coming Worm Apocalypse Should Terrify You,
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * Well...there are areas of the wheat and farm belt that haven't had a single earth worm in over 70s years. This isn't new, it is in fact quite an old story. Chemical nitrogen fertilizer will burn worms to death. After destroying all the *mycorrhiza* fungi and other micro organism and reducing the organic matter to about 1% or less...the worms die off. However...it should be noted that with the exception of *Eisenia fetida* and the *Lumbricus terrestris* most earth worms are really an 'invasive species' imported from Europe and Africa. Overall they are positive and the number of earthworms in the soil is indicative of soil health, that is, great amounts of organic matter in the soil. They are like canneries in the coal mine...when one ceases to see them in a spade of soil, you know you have problems. Worms represent sort of the final processing of the decomposition of dung and plant litter on the ground. Sometimes before, sometimes after decomp has set in. Along with dung beetles there are hundreds of species of worms. On the other hand, while worms have a symbiotic relationship with most species of plants in grass lands and on the edge of forests...they are very detrimental to forests. In some places in the northern plains, Minnesota and Wisconsin, you can see signs that say "keep your earthworms away!". Why? Because North American forests evolved without them, at all. Earthworms actually pull leaves and other forest floor litter into their dens and can deny the trees the need nutrition. The book is still out on this and it's being studies but the consensus is slowly developing that invasive earth worm species are detrimental to forest health. David _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
[Marxism] The Coming Worm Apocalypse Should Terrify You
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-coming-worm-apocalypse-should-terrify-you _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
