Re: [Marxism] Another example of the rank dishonesty of these people - highlighting Jason Ditz

[Clay Claiborne via Marxism]

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rackspace may be happy to let you take your company supplied notebook on
vacation with you but what army would allow you to borrow a tank for your
"vacation?"


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On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 11:48 AM, Tristan Sloughter via Marxism <
marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu> wrote:

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> My favorite has been the always wrong WSWS seeming to accept Russia's claim
> that the Russian troops in Ukraine are just on vacation,
> http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2014/08/29/ukra-a29.html
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Re: [Marxism] Another example of the rank dishonesty of these people - highlighting Jason Ditz

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My favorite has been the always wrong WSWS seeming to accept Russia's claim
that the Russian troops in Ukraine are just on vacation,
http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2014/08/29/ukra-a29.html

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Re: [Marxism] Another example of the rank dishonesty of these people - highlighting Jason Ditz

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On 8/30/14 11:48 AM, Clay Claiborne via Marxism wrote:

In yesterday's mis-named antiwar.com Jason Ditz claims no Russian invasion
of Ukraine is taking place and no proof has been offered.



What a fucking joke. With a cynicism I haven't seen outside the last 
dozen or so American presidencies, RT.com reports 
(http://rt.com/news/183308-russian-volunteers-ukraine-fighting/):


"About 3-4,000 Russian citizens joined anti-government fighters during 
Kiev crackdown in Ukraine’s east, says the leader of Donetsk independent 
republic, noting that self-defense fighters have never concealed this fact."


But none of this will perturb the "anti-imperialists". It is as Roger 
Annis, Putin's Anna Louise Strong, put it: "There is not a chance they 
could have resisted for so long and so successfully Kyiv’s NATO-backed 
military offensive if they didn’t have a political and social cause 
worth fighting for." It doesn't matter to Annis that not a single action 
taken by the Donetsk People's Republic can be described as 
anti-capitalist. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. These idiots who 
get all googly-eyed over a brawny Russian Marine who fought in Chechnya. 
Who can blame them? With a left that can barely get a hearing from 
workers in the West, what better surrogate can there be than a fantasy 
based on distant memories of Eisenstein's "The Battleship Potemkin".



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[Marxism] Another example of the rank dishonesty of these people - highlighting Jason Ditz

[Clay Claiborne via Marxism]

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http://news.antiwar.com/2014/08/29/ukraine-claims-thousands-of-russian-troops-invaded-offers-no-evidence/

In yesterday's mis-named antiwar.com Jason Ditz claims no Russian invasion
of Ukraine is taking place and no proof has been offered.

The US, which had been rubber stamping Ukrainian allegations for months,
> seems to be particularly hesitant this time, and is saying they can’t
> independently confirm
> any
> of the allegations being made this time.


In the link above.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/30/world/europe/ukraine-conflict.html?_r=0
we find:

Russian troops and weaponry were creating momentum for a counteroffensive
> along a significant new front that threatened Mariupol, a key southeastern
> seaport and one of the region’s biggest cities with nearly half a million
> residents.
> Continue reading the main story
> 
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> In the town of Novoazovsk, Ukrainian militiamen manned checkpoints. But
> evidence of a Russian presence was abundant, including unmarked Russian
> military vehicles with no license plates. A soldier on a truck greeted
> journalists by shouting in English: “Back in the U.S.S.R.!”
>
> A cashier at a Novoazovsk grocery store said Russian soldiers had bought
> sausages and cigarettes. Asked how she knew they were Russian, the cashier,
> who identified herself as Olga, snapped: “You think I’ve only lived one
> day?”
>


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