Re: [Marxism] Having The Flu And With Nothing Else To Do
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * Thanks, Louis. I am deeply honored and am blushing. The move to Marx occurred when I was a fellow in Law and Humanities at Harvard Law School in 1975-76. The fellowship meant I could audit any undergraduate course, and I gleefully took every one (not in science) taught by a Marxist. This, plus their reading, plus friendship with many graduate students and teaching assistants, moved me onto the road towards Marxism. It greatly helped also that liberalism was (is) such a failure, at democracy, at equality, and at telling the truth. And here I still am. Wythe > On May 11, 2020 at 11:16 AM Louis Proyect wrote: > > > On 5/11/20 10:51 AM, wytheh...@cox.net wrote: > > I moved from liberalism to radicalism in my 30s. I am still a radical. > > People still treat me as though I escaped from a mental institution. > > Wythe Holt > > Wythe is too modest to mention his background so I will do it for him. > It makes his transition all the more interesting. > > > Wythe Holt > > Professor Holt served on the Law School Faculty [of the University of > Alabama] from 1966 through 2005. He received his B.A. from Amherst > College and his J.D. and Ph.D. (in American history) from the University > of Virginia. In law school he was elected to Order of the Coif and > served as Virginia Editor of the Virginia Law Review. Within the > Alabama Law School, Professor Holt received one of the first four Chairs > awarded, and is now University Research Professor of Law Emeritus. > > Professor Holt taught and published in the fields of federal > jurisdiction, conflict of laws, trusts and estates, and future > interests, while his primary field of teaching and publication was > American legal history, particularly the history of American labor law. > In retirement his chief production has included books on the Whiskey > Rebellion of 1794, the early history of the American federal court > system, and a Civil War battle which took place near his hometown of > Hampton, Virginia. At the University of Alabama, Professor Holt also > taught or co-taught courses in the English, History, American Studies, > African-American Studies (as it was then), New College, and Criminal > Justice departments of the College of Arts and Sciences. He served as a > visiting professor at the law schools of George Washington University, > West Virginia University, and the University of Miami, and was a > visiting member of the faculty of history at the University of Virginia. > He has also served as a visiting lecturer or professor at Mekelle > University in Ethiopia, Fribourg University in Switzerland, and the > Australian National University in Canberra. > > Professor Holt was a founding member and early Secretary of the American > Society for Legal History. He has served as Secretary of the Southwest > Labor Studies Association and as a member of the American Legal Studies > Association. He also served in the University of Alabama Faculty Senate > for many years, being elected its President for one term by his peers there. _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: https://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Having The Flu And With Nothing Else To Do
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * My response was, perhaps predictably given the touchiness of my email system, deleted by the internet. Here is the message I received: The following message to was undeliverable. The reason for the problem: 5.3.0 - Other mail system problem 550-'maximum allowed line length is 998 octets, got 1054' Of course no message was "following". I will try to respond again. Wythe > On May 11, 2020 at 11:16 AM Louis Proyect mailto:l...@panix.com > wrote: > > > On 5/11/20 10:51 AM, wytheh...@cox.net mailto:wytheh...@cox.net wrote: > > > > I moved from liberalism to radicalism in my 30s. I am still a > radical. > > People still treat me as though I escaped from a mental institution. > > Wythe Holt > > > > > Wythe is too modest to mention his background so I will do it for > > him. > It makes his transition all the more interesting. > > > Wythe Holt > > Professor Holt served on the Law School Faculty [of the University of > Alabama] from 1966 through 2005. He received his B.A. from Amherst > College and his J.D. and Ph.D. (in American history) from the University > of Virginia. In law school he was elected to Order of the Coif and > served as Virginia Editor of the Virginia Law Review. Within the > Alabama Law School, Professor Holt received one of the first four Chairs > awarded, and is now University Research Professor of Law Emeritus. > > Professor Holt taught and published in the fields of federal > jurisdiction, conflict of laws, trusts and estates, and future > interests, while his primary field of teaching and publication was > American legal history, particularly the history of American labor law. > In retirement his chief production has included books on the Whiskey > Rebellion of 1794, the early history of the American federal court > system, and a Civil War battle which took place near his hometown of > Hampton, Virginia. At the University of Alabama, Professor Holt also > taught or co-taught courses in the English, History, American Studies, > African-American Studies (as it was then), New College, and Criminal > Justice departments of the College of Arts and Sciences. He served as a > visiting professor at the law schools of George Washington University, > West Virginia University, and the University of Miami, and was a > visiting member of the faculty of history at the University of Virginia. > He has also served as a visiting lecturer or professor at Mekelle > University in Ethiopia, Fribourg University in Switzerland, and the > Australian National University in Canberra. > > Professor Holt was a founding member and early Secretary of the American > Society for Legal History. He has served as Secretary of the Southwest > Labor Studies Association and as a member of the American Legal Studies > Association. He also served in the University of Alabama Faculty Senate > for many years, being elected its President for one term by his peers > there. > _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: https://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Having The Flu And With Nothing Else To Do
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * On 5/11/20 10:51 AM, wytheh...@cox.net wrote: I moved from liberalism to radicalism in my 30s. I am still a radical. People still treat me as though I escaped from a mental institution. Wythe Holt Wythe is too modest to mention his background so I will do it for him. It makes his transition all the more interesting. Wythe Holt Professor Holt served on the Law School Faculty [of the University of Alabama] from 1966 through 2005. He received his B.A. from Amherst College and his J.D. and Ph.D. (in American history) from the University of Virginia. In law school he was elected to Order of the Coif and served as Virginia Editor of the Virginia Law Review. Within the Alabama Law School, Professor Holt received one of the first four Chairs awarded, and is now University Research Professor of Law Emeritus. Professor Holt taught and published in the fields of federal jurisdiction, conflict of laws, trusts and estates, and future interests, while his primary field of teaching and publication was American legal history, particularly the history of American labor law. In retirement his chief production has included books on the Whiskey Rebellion of 1794, the early history of the American federal court system, and a Civil War battle which took place near his hometown of Hampton, Virginia. At the University of Alabama, Professor Holt also taught or co-taught courses in the English, History, American Studies, African-American Studies (as it was then), New College, and Criminal Justice departments of the College of Arts and Sciences. He served as a visiting professor at the law schools of George Washington University, West Virginia University, and the University of Miami, and was a visiting member of the faculty of history at the University of Virginia. He has also served as a visiting lecturer or professor at Mekelle University in Ethiopia, Fribourg University in Switzerland, and the Australian National University in Canberra. Professor Holt was a founding member and early Secretary of the American Society for Legal History. He has served as Secretary of the Southwest Labor Studies Association and as a member of the American Legal Studies Association. He also served in the University of Alabama Faculty Senate for many years, being elected its President for one term by his peers there. _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: https://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Having The Flu And With Nothing Else To Do
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * I moved from liberalism to radicalism in my 30s. I am still a radical. People still treat me as though I escaped from a mental institution. Wythe Holt > On May 11, 2020 at 9:46 AM Louis Proyect via Marxism > mailto:marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu > wrote: > > > POSTING RULES & NOTES > #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. > #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. > #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. > * > > Having The Flu And With Nothing Else To Do > by Charles Bukowski > > I read a book about John Dos Passos and according to > the book once radical-communist > John ended up in the Hollywood Hills living off investments > and reading the > Wall Street Journal > > this seems to happen all too often. > > what hardly ever happens is > a man going from being a young conservative to becoming an > old wild-ass radical > > however: > young conservatives always seem to become old > conservatives. > it's a kind of lifelong mental vapor-lock. > > but when a young radical ends up an > old radical > the critics > and the conservatives > treat him as if he escaped from a mental > institution. > > such is our politics and you can have it > all. > > keep it. > > sail it up your > ass. > > _ > Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm > Set your options at: > https://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/wytheholt%40cox.net > _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: https://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
[Marxism] Having The Flu And With Nothing Else To Do
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * Having The Flu And With Nothing Else To Do by Charles Bukowski I read a book about John Dos Passos and according to the book once radical-communist John ended up in the Hollywood Hills living off investments and reading the Wall Street Journal this seems to happen all too often. what hardly ever happens is a man going from being a young conservative to becoming an old wild-ass radical however: young conservatives always seem to become old conservatives. it's a kind of lifelong mental vapor-lock. but when a young radical ends up an old radical the critics and the conservatives treat him as if he escaped from a mental institution. such is our politics and you can have it all. keep it. sail it up your ass. _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: https://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
