Re: [Marxism] Thoughts on Palestine and Syria
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Yes, I'm aware of his lack of principle on the subjects you've mentioned alongside Egypt. I mentioned him in regret that it's hard to find an anti-Zionist, anti-Assad analysis. Thanks for the blog! > On Jul 24, 2014, at 3:16 PM, Andrew Pollack wrote: > > Just remember, if you share Pham's post, what a dangerously unprincipled > opportunist he is. For instance, his latest post is about the FSA disowning > JAN (al-Nusra, the Al Qaeda group) for its atrocities -- yet Pham himself not > that long ago was denouncing leftists who criticized JAN! > > Not to mention his "hurrah" for the Zionist attack on Syria etc. etc. etc. > > If you want a genuine anti-Zionist, anti-Assad effort, check out > http://menasolnetus.wordpress.com/ and on Facebook the Syrian Revolution > Support Bases group. > > >> On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 12:54 AM, Anas via Marxism >> wrote: >> == >> Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. >> == >> >> >> I have read Binh's recent article >> (http://notgeorgesabra.wordpress.com/2014/07/22/selective-internationalism-an-activist-disorder/) >> on the relation between Palestine and Syria and saw a statistic from FP >> that more than 700 people have been killed in Syria between Thursday and >> Friday >> (http://blog.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2014/07/21/overlooked_syrian_conflict_hits_new_death_toll_record?utm_content=buffer89172&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer) >> >> Even facts like how Assad has substantially displaced more Palestinians than >> Israel has this year tend to be interpreted as apologetic for Israel. >> >> Fortunately, I had found this amazing line that seemed to really convey why >> the Palestinian struggle is famous in a recent article by Adam shatz.. This >> explanation can't be easily characterized as whitewashing Israel: >> >> "Do you know why we are so famous?" Mahmoud Darwish asks the Israeli writer >> Helit Yeshurun inPalestine as Metaphor. "It's because you are our enemy. The >> interest in the Palestinian question flows from the interest in the Jewish >> question…. It's you they're interested in, not me!… So we have the >> misfortune of having an enemy, Israel, with so many sympathizers in the >> world, and we have the good fortune that our enemy is Israel, since Jews are >> the center of the world. You have given us our defeat, our weakness, our >> renown." As Darwish suggests, this concern for the Palestinians is not a >> matter of anti-Semitism, as Israel supporters claim, so much as it is a >> reflection of self-absorption: the Palestinians are important to the West >> because, through their oppression by Israeli Jews, they have become >> characters in a Western narrative." >> >> (I encourage you to read the full article. We should have more writers on >> the region like Adam Shatz, and less of Chris Hedges and Robert Fisk (and >> plenty others in zmag, counterpunch) who view the Middle East as a >> geopolitical entity that revolves around America.) >> >> I'm afraid by the time the Syrian question becomes popular, all Syrians >> would be dead already. And it will stay unpopular for as long as the players >> involved aren't Israeli Jews or Westerners* as Mahmoud Darwich, in the usual >> Palestinian acerbic wit, demonstrates. >> >> http://m.thenation.com/article/180663-writers-or-missionaries >> >> *As western jihadists going to fight in Syria garner more discussion in >> western papers of record and media than the victims of the war >> >> Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu >> Set your options at: >> http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/acpollack2%40gmail.com > Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Thoughts on Palestine and Syria
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Just remember, if you share Pham's post, what a dangerously unprincipled opportunist he is. For instance, his latest post is about the FSA disowning JAN (al-Nusra, the Al Qaeda group) for its atrocities -- yet Pham himself not that long ago was denouncing leftists who criticized JAN! Not to mention his "hurrah" for the Zionist attack on Syria etc. etc. etc. If you want a genuine anti-Zionist, anti-Assad effort, check out http://menasolnetus.wordpress.com/ and on Facebook the Syrian Revolution Support Bases group. On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 12:54 AM, Anas via Marxism < marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu> wrote: > == > Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. > == > > > I have read Binh's recent article ( > http://notgeorgesabra.wordpress.com/2014/07/22/selective-internationalism-an-activist-disorder/) > on the relation between Palestine and Syria and saw a statistic from FP > that more than 700 people have been killed in Syria between Thursday and > Friday ( > http://blog.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2014/07/21/overlooked_syrian_conflict_hits_new_death_toll_record?utm_content=buffer89172&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer > ) > > Even facts like how Assad has substantially displaced more Palestinians > than Israel has this year tend to be interpreted as apologetic for Israel. > > Fortunately, I had found this amazing line that seemed to really convey > why the Palestinian struggle is famous in a recent article by Adam shatz.. > This explanation can't be easily characterized as whitewashing Israel: > > "Do you know why we are so famous?" Mahmoud Darwish asks the Israeli > writer Helit Yeshurun inPalestine as Metaphor. "It's because you are our > enemy. The interest in the Palestinian question flows from the interest in > the Jewish question…. It's you they're interested in, not me!… So we have > the misfortune of having an enemy, Israel, with so many sympathizers in the > world, and we have the good fortune that our enemy is Israel, since Jews > are the center of the world. You have given us our defeat, our weakness, > our renown." As Darwish suggests, this concern for the Palestinians is not > a matter of anti-Semitism, as Israel supporters claim, so much as it is a > reflection of self-absorption: the Palestinians are important to the West > because, through their oppression by Israeli Jews, they have become > characters in a Western narrative." > > (I encourage you to read the full article. We should have more writers on > the region like Adam Shatz, and less of Chris Hedges and Robert Fisk (and > plenty others in zmag, counterpunch) who view the Middle East as a > geopolitical entity that revolves around America.) > > I'm afraid by the time the Syrian question becomes popular, all Syrians > would be dead already. And it will stay unpopular for as long as the > players involved aren't Israeli Jews or Westerners* as Mahmoud Darwich, in > the usual Palestinian acerbic wit, demonstrates. > > http://m.thenation.com/article/180663-writers-or-missionaries > > *As western jihadists going to fight in Syria garner more discussion in > western papers of record and media than the victims of the war > > Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu > Set your options at: > http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/acpollack2%40gmail.com > Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
[Marxism] Thoughts on Palestine and Syria
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == I have read Binh's recent article (http://notgeorgesabra.wordpress.com/2014/07/22/selective-internationalism-an-activist-disorder/) on the relation between Palestine and Syria and saw a statistic from FP that more than 700 people have been killed in Syria between Thursday and Friday (http://blog.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2014/07/21/overlooked_syrian_conflict_hits_new_death_toll_record?utm_content=buffer89172&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer) Even facts like how Assad has substantially displaced more Palestinians than Israel has this year tend to be interpreted as apologetic for Israel. Fortunately, I had found this amazing line that seemed to really convey why the Palestinian struggle is famous in a recent article by Adam shatz.. This explanation can't be easily characterized as whitewashing Israel: "Do you know why we are so famous?" Mahmoud Darwish asks the Israeli writer Helit Yeshurun inPalestine as Metaphor. "It's because you are our enemy. The interest in the Palestinian question flows from the interest in the Jewish question…. It's you they're interested in, not me!… So we have the misfortune of having an enemy, Israel, with so many sympathizers in the world, and we have the good fortune that our enemy is Israel, since Jews are the center of the world. You have given us our defeat, our weakness, our renown." As Darwish suggests, this concern for the Palestinians is not a matter of anti-Semitism, as Israel supporters claim, so much as it is a reflection of self-absorption: the Palestinians are important to the West because, through their oppression by Israeli Jews, they have become characters in a Western narrative." (I encourage you to read the full article. We should have more writers on the region like Adam Shatz, and less of Chris Hedges and Robert Fisk (and plenty others in zmag, counterpunch) who view the Middle East as a geopolitical entity that revolves around America.) I'm afraid by the time the Syrian question becomes popular, all Syrians would be dead already. And it will stay unpopular for as long as the players involved aren't Israeli Jews or Westerners* as Mahmoud Darwich, in the usual Palestinian acerbic wit, demonstrates. http://m.thenation.com/article/180663-writers-or-missionaries *As western jihadists going to fight in Syria garner more discussion in western papers of record and media than the victims of the war Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
