Re: [Marxism] Bela Fleck/Abigail Wishburn Streamed on You Tube Today

2020-06-28 Thread wytheholt--- via Marxism
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I think Bela is a fairly popular boy's name in Hungarian. Was Fleck named after 
Bartok? I must say I like bluegrass, and some country-and-western, but music is 
almost always only a background for me. I have forgotten my mask twice, and it 
does feel odd to suddenly find yourself without one when you discover you have 
left it home. Unlike many, I don't mind wearing the masks, but remembering them 
is always difficult. I keep them located in a chair right near the door to my 
apartment, to remind me.
Take care, John my friend, and be safe. It is getting harder. WH


> On June 28, 2020 at 1:12 PM John A Imani  wrote:
> 
> My Man!
> 
> Though I like his playing, and am fond of bluegrass, what was of moment 
> to me was the BLM sign behind him and his wife.  Bluegrass and BLM, a tasty 
> heady concoction for these times.
> 
> I don't listen much either and music videos don't do it for me.  I 
> stopped listening to popular music when disco came in and it was then I knew 
> that our revolution had failed.  But my girlfriend is deeply into it and it 
> was she who introduced me to Bela Fleck.  But I turned it around and turned 
> her on to Django Reinhardt https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Django_Reinhardt and 
> Stephane Grapelli. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St%C3%A9phane_Grappelli  
> 
> In the 60s I belittled the importance of culture.  This probably because 
> of the fratricidal rift between the Panthers and the US organization 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_Organization#Rivalry_with_the_Black_Panthers_(1969)
>  which was heavy into African culture.  And killing Panthers.  How wrong I 
> was about the music of our time, I can see in retrospect.  Music helped move 
> the movement forward.
> 
> I had hoped to find that his name was given in honor of Bela Kun, of the 
> short-lived Hungarian SSR https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B%C3%A9la_Kun , who 
> was martyred by Stalin.  But he has 3 given names all of them after musicians.
> 
> Take care and b safe,  Dumb assed me, went out to CVS this morning 
> without mask.  First time I forgot.  Gon put a cheap one in my pocket as a 
> guard against old age.
> 
> JAI
> 
> On Sun, Jun 28, 2020 at 8:50 AM < wytheh...@cox.net 
> mailto:wytheh...@cox.net > wrote:
> 
> > > Music is wonderful, for most people, John, but I have to 
> confess that I am tone deaf and have never been much of a fan of music. I 
> know it is strange, but then I am strange in many ways. I am the only person 
> I know who is not into music much at all -- I love the local classical music 
> station, we are lucky to have such a station here in Tidewater VA, but even 
> it is just background for my driving and I do not listen while at home. 
> Thanks for trying to clue me in, I imagine this is all just great, but I 
> cannot get into it. In solidarity nevertheless, Wythe
> > 
> > 
> > > > > On June 27, 2020 at 9:44 PM John A Imani < 
> > johnaima...@gmail.com mailto:johnaima...@gmail.com > wrote:
> > > 
> > > Comrade,
> > > 
> > > Watching just an awesome recital by the couple 
> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8p3HNGmEkA .  Banjos with a "Black Lives 
> > > Matter" sign as background.  They promised to stream it for a few weeks.  
> > > The first part is a Jazz trio that did not interest me as I came to hear 
> > > Bela.  Me and V have seen him at least twice, maybe 3,4 times. 
> > > 
> > > If only interested in this part its easy to navigate to it 
> > > just move cursor to almost the end that isn't.  Their performance is 
> > > maybe 25 - 30 mins long.
> > > 
> > > They do a song on the indigenous.  She sings one in Chinese 
> > > that she learned during an extended stay in Sichuan.  They duet on a 
> > > Hank, Sr tune.  Sing an Abbey Lincoln 
> > > https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d=Abbey+Lincoln+ tune 
> > > introduced by pointing at her activism.  Last thing "Take me to Harlem" 
> > > with great lyrics but, I think, musically missing something.  Maybe a 
> > > gospel choir.
> > > 
> > > Comrade, I am far from a musicologist but know what I like 
> > > when I hear it.
> > > 
> > > In the 60's the soundtrack to our lives was cause and effect 
> > > of our struggles, protests, movements.  There must be a music of this 
> > > movement.  Maybe musics.  But Fleck's incursion of his politics into this 
> > > Allegheny world sounds a tocsin for others to follow.  Not just bluegrass 
> > > but C, folk, rap, R, classical, jazz and blues.
> > > 
> > > We must find, encourage and support our troubadors-to-be.  I 
> > > know one 

Re: [Marxism] Bela Fleck/Abigail Wishburn Streamed on You Tube Today

2020-06-28 Thread John A Imani via Marxism
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My Man!

Though I like his playing, and am fond of bluegrass, what was of moment to
me was the BLM sign behind him and his wife.  Bluegrass and BLM, a tasty
heady concoction for these times.

I don't listen much either and music videos don't do it for me.  I stopped
listening to popular music when disco came in and it was then I knew that
our revolution had failed.  But my girlfriend is deeply into it and it was
she who introduced me to Bela Fleck.  But I turned it around and turned her
on to Django Reinhardt
 and Stephane
Grapelli. 

In the 60s I belittled the importance of culture.  This probably because of
the fratricidal rift between the Panthers and the US organization

which was heavy into African culture.  And killing Panthers.  How wrong I
was about the music of our time, I can see in retrospect.  Music helped
move the movement forward.

I had hoped to find that his name was given in honor of Bela Kun, of the
short-lived Hungarian SSR ,
who was martyred by Stalin.  But he has 3 given names all of them after
musicians.

Take care and b safe,  Dumb assed me, went out to CVS this morning without
mask.  First time I forgot.  Gon put a cheap one in my pocket as a guard
against old age.

JAI

On Sun, Jun 28, 2020 at 8:50 AM  wrote:

> Music is wonderful, for most people, John, but I have to confess that I am
> tone deaf and have never been much of a fan of music. I know it is strange,
> but then I am strange in many ways. I am the only person I know who is not
> into music much at all -- I love the local classical music station, we are
> lucky to have such a station here in Tidewater VA, but even it is just
> background for my driving and I do not listen while at home. Thanks for
> trying to clue me in, I imagine this is all just great, but I cannot get
> into it. In solidarity nevertheless, Wythe
>
> On June 27, 2020 at 9:44 PM John A Imani  wrote:
>
> Comrade,
>
> Watching just an awesome recital by the couple
> .  Banjos with a "Black
> Lives Matter" sign as background.  They promised to stream it for a few
> weeks.  The first part is a Jazz trio that did not interest me as I came to
> hear Bela.  Me and V have seen him at least twice, maybe 3,4 times.
>
> If only interested in this part its easy to navigate to it just move
> cursor to almost the end that isn't.  Their performance is maybe 25 - 30
> mins long.
>
> They do a song on the indigenous.  She sings one in Chinese that she
> learned during an extended stay in Sichuan.  They duet on a Hank, Sr tune.
> Sing an Abbey Lincoln
> 
> tune introduced by pointing at her activism.  Last thing "Take me to
> Harlem" with great lyrics but, I think, musically missing something.  Maybe
> a gospel choir.
>
> Comrade, I am far from a musicologist but know what I like when I hear it.
>
> In the 60's the soundtrack to our lives was cause and effect of our
> struggles, protests, movements.  There must be a music of this movement.
> Maybe musics.  But Fleck's incursion of his politics into this Allegheny
> world sounds a tocsin for others to follow.  Not just bluegrass but C,
> folk, rap, R, classical, jazz and blues.
>
> We must find, encourage and support our troubadors-to-be.  I know one
> personally.  Devin Hoff is a world-class bassist
> who shifts through the varied
> music scenes listed above with grace, fluidity, mastery of himself and his
> instrument, bass.  Even better is his politics.  Even better is the man.
> He currently lives and will soon be active again in NYC, hopefully the
> C19thing will be beaten even though it is 'managed' by a rudy-poot
> nincompoop.
>
> But as for Bela Fleck and Abigail Wishburn's presentation all that was
> missing, besides the gospel choir, was Doc and Merle Watson but, alas, both
> are gone.
> Freihofer's Jazz Fest: Béla Fleck & Abigail Washburn with Skidmore Jazz
> Institute Alumni Trio
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8p3HNGmEkA
>
> JAI
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Marxism] Bela Fleck/Abigail Wishburn Streamed on You Tube Today

2020-06-28 Thread wytheholt--- via Marxism
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Music is wonderful, for most people, John, but I have to confess that I am tone 
deaf and have never been much of a fan of music. I know it is strange, but then 
I am strange in many ways. I am the only person I know who is not into music 
much at all -- I love the local classical music station, we are lucky to have 
such a station here in Tidewater VA, but even it is just background for my 
driving and I do not listen while at home. Thanks for trying to clue me in, I 
imagine this is all just great, but I cannot get into it. In solidarity 
nevertheless, Wythe


> On June 27, 2020 at 9:44 PM John A Imani  wrote:
> 
> Comrade,
> 
> Watching just an awesome recital by the couple 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8p3HNGmEkA .  Banjos with a "Black Lives 
> Matter" sign as background.  They promised to stream it for a few weeks.  The 
> first part is a Jazz trio that did not interest me as I came to hear Bela.  
> Me and V have seen him at least twice, maybe 3,4 times. 
> 
> If only interested in this part its easy to navigate to it just move 
> cursor to almost the end that isn't.  Their performance is maybe 25 - 30 mins 
> long.
> 
> They do a song on the indigenous.  She sings one in Chinese that she 
> learned during an extended stay in Sichuan.  They duet on a Hank, Sr tune.  
> Sing an Abbey Lincoln 
> https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d=Abbey+Lincoln+ tune 
> introduced by pointing at her activism.  Last thing "Take me to Harlem" with 
> great lyrics but, I think, musically missing something.  Maybe a gospel choir.
> 
> Comrade, I am far from a musicologist but know what I like when I hear it.
> 
> In the 60's the soundtrack to our lives was cause and effect of our 
> struggles, protests, movements.  There must be a music of this movement.  
> Maybe musics.  But Fleck's incursion of his politics into this Allegheny 
> world sounds a tocsin for others to follow.  Not just bluegrass but C, 
> folk, rap, R, classical, jazz and blues.
> 
> We must find, encourage and support our troubadors-to-be.  I know one 
> personally.  Devin Hoff is a world-class bassist 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devin_Hoff who shifts through the varied music 
> scenes listed above with grace, fluidity, mastery of himself and his 
> instrument, bass.  Even better is his politics.  Even better is the man.  He 
> currently lives and will soon be active again in NYC, hopefully the C19thing 
> will be beaten even though it is 'managed' by a rudy-poot nincompoop.
> 
> But as for Bela Fleck and Abigail Wishburn's presentation all that was 
> missing, besides the gospel choir, was Doc and Merle Watson but, alas, both 
> are gone.
> 
> 
> Freihofer's Jazz Fest: Béla Fleck & Abigail Washburn with Skidmore Jazz 
> Institute Alumni Trio 
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8p3HNGmEkA
> 
> JAI
> 
 
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Re: [Marxism] Bela Fleck/Abigail Wishburn Streamed on You Tube Today

2020-06-28 Thread Louis Proyect via Marxism

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On 6/28/20 7:12 AM, Greg McDonald via Marxism wrote:



I’ve only seen Bela Fleck one time as well. Victor Wooten, original bassist
with his group, is also no slouch. Not coincidentally, Fleck has a
wonderful documentary on the African origins of the banjo.

Greg McDonald


Tony Thomas was a black leader of the SWP (expelled long ago but not for 
political reasons). But arguably his biggest contribution is as a banjo 
player and a scholar of its African origins.


http://www.oldtimeherald.org/archive/back_issues/volume-9/9-7/black-banjo.html

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Re: [Marxism] Bela Fleck/Abigail Wishburn Streamed on You Tube Today

2020-06-28 Thread Greg McDonald via Marxism
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I had the good fortune to see Doc Watson live once. It was a small outdoor
affair in Vermont, summer of 1983 maybe?

I’ve only seen Bela Fleck one time as well. Victor Wooten, original bassist
with his group, is also no slouch. Not coincidentally, Fleck has a
wonderful documentary on the African origins of the banjo.

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[Marxism] Bela Fleck/Abigail Wishburn Streamed on You Tube Today

2020-06-27 Thread John A Imani via Marxism
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Comrade,

Watching just an awesome recital by the couple
.  Banjos with a "Black Lives
Matter" sign as background.  They promised to stream it for a few weeks.
The first part is a Jazz trio that did not interest me as I came to hear
Bela.  Me and V have seen him at least twice, maybe 3,4 times.

If only interested in this part its easy to navigate to it just move cursor
to almost the end that isn't.  Their performance is maybe 25 - 30 mins long.

They do a song on the indigenous.  She sings one in Chinese that she
learned during an extended stay in Sichuan.  They duet on a Hank, Sr tune.
Sing an Abbey Lincoln
 tune
introduced by pointing at her activism.  Last thing "Take me to Harlem"
with great lyrics but, I think, musically missing something.  Maybe a
gospel choir.

Comrade, I am far from a musicologist but know what I like when I hear it.

In the 60's the soundtrack to our lives was cause and effect of our
struggles, protests, movements.  There must be a music of this movement.
Maybe musics.  But Fleck's incursion of his politics into this Allegheny
world sounds a tocsin for others to follow.  Not just bluegrass but C,
folk, rap, R, classical, jazz and blues.

We must find, encourage and support our troubadors-to-be.  I know one
personally.  Devin Hoff is a world-class bassist
who shifts through the varied
music scenes listed above with grace, fluidity, mastery of himself and his
instrument, bass.  Even better is his politics.  Even better is the man.
He currently lives and will soon be active again in NYC, hopefully the
C19thing will be beaten even though it is 'managed' by a rudy-poot
nincompoop.

But as for Bela Fleck and Abigail Wishburn's presentation all that was
missing, besides the gospel choir, was Doc and Merle Watson but, alas, both
are gone.
Freihofer's Jazz Fest: Béla Fleck & Abigail Washburn with Skidmore Jazz
Institute Alumni Trio
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8p3HNGmEkA

JAI
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