Re: [Marxism] Progressive politics stirring among Orthodox Jews - New York Daily News

2020-06-15 Thread Louis Proyect via Marxism

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On 6/15/20 8:06 PM, John Obrien via Marxism wrote:

"Progressives" not wearing masks or physical distancing as this image in 
article -
except by their backward religious based gender discrimination to separate and 
rank


The Hasidim in this picture were not in egregious defiance of CDC 
recommendations. It is not like they were celebrating a wedding. Plus, 
wearing a mask is required for entering a store, not being out on the 
street. I have posted items about Hasidic failure to follow regulations 
or recommendations but this was not one.


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Re: [Marxism] Progressive politics stirring among Orthodox Jews - New York Daily News

2020-06-15 Thread A.R. G via Marxism
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Obviously every community has its religious whackos. The whole point of the
article was that members of the Orthodox Jewish community were nonetheless
embracing struggles that had long been policed by conservative types and
community elders.

I'd note also that insofar as religious oppression takes place within
Orthodox communities it also happens *to* Orthodox Jews. We should support
those people when they raise issues of inequality generally. This notion
that everyone needs to drop their religious affiliations and customs is, in
my opinion, really facile and patronizing and also a misreading of the
phrase that John has quoted from Marx.

Amith R. Gupta


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Re: [Marxism] Progressive politics stirring among Orthodox Jews - New York Daily News

2020-06-15 Thread John Obrien via Marxism
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"Progressives" not wearing masks or physical distancing as this image in 
article -
except by their backward religious based gender discrimination to separate and 
rank

Religion is an opium (and problem) - and a benefit for others privileged to use 
to exploit






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Re: [Marxism] Progressive politics stirring among Orthodox Jews - New York Daily News

2020-06-15 Thread Michael Meeropol via Marxism
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I don't think the INTONATION can be sent over the internet --- but here
goes ---

ALAVAI --- 



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[Marxism] Progressive politics stirring among Orthodox Jews - New York Daily News

2020-06-15 Thread Louis Proyect via Marxism

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