Re: [Marxism] San Quentin and the Future of California Education

2009-08-22 Thread Bill O'Connor
Tom Cod t...@hotmail.com writes: It'd be nice if the link to the actual article would open as all we have now is a blank comments box. Just above that is the link to the PDF file. -- In Solidarity, Billy O'Connor YOU MUST clip all extraneous

Re: [Marxism] Alexander Cockburn RIP

2009-08-22 Thread Tom Cod
Yeah, I mean, let's use words in their commonly understood meaning, particularly loaded terms like this one, and not waste time with obscurantist pedantry that isolates us from the real political struggles that the use of these terms reflects.

[Marxism] Liberal discontent with Obama growing

2009-08-22 Thread Louis Proyect
Health Care Reform Drawing More Criticism From Left By Dan Balz Washington Post Staff Writer Saturday, August 22, 2009 12:52 PM Through most of the summer, opposition to President Obama and his health-care initiative has come almost entirely from the right. In the past week, however, the

[Marxism] Neo-nazi hate blogger paid by FBI to incite, says attorney

2009-08-22 Thread Pat Costello
David Kravets at Wired Threat Level blog reports that Hal Turner, a notorious shitbag hate blogger in New Jersey who was charged two months ago with threatening to kill judges and lawmakers, was secretly an FBI agent provocateur paid tens of thousands of dollars by our government to broadcast

[Marxism] Photo essay: The last days of apartheid

2009-08-22 Thread Pat Costello
http://lens.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/08/20/showcase-38/ Though legendary in photojournalism circles, the Bang Bang Club never formally existed. It was really more of a bond among four young photographers — Kevin Carter, Greg Marinovich, Ken Oosterbroek and Joao Silva — united by their ideals,

Re: [Marxism] Words (Cuban economy)

2009-08-22 Thread Bhaskar Sunkara
When has autarkic state capitalism ever been a formula to *solve*underdevelopment? On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 3:50 PM, sobuadha...@hushmail.com wrote: Tom Cod wrote: Hey, how much heavy industry is there in Cuba. Don't they still rely on their traditional natural resource: sugar? The answer

Re: [Marxism] Words (Cuban economy)

2009-08-22 Thread nada
I think we ought not to get into a debate on the class nature of Cuban society here on this list. It simply won't work, IMHO. But...there are all sorts of industrializations and no one thinks that Havana ought to become the second city of Ford Motor Company or be the biggest producer of

Re: [Marxism] Words (Cuban economy)

2009-08-22 Thread Steve Palmer
Japan. --- On Sat, 8/22/09, Bhaskar Sunkara bhaskar.sunk...@gmail.com wrote: From: Bhaskar Sunkara bhaskar.sunk...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Marxism] Words (Cuban economy) To: Steve Palmer spalmer...@yahoo.com Date: Saturday, August 22, 2009, 12:57 PM When has autarkic state capitalism ever

[Marxism] Tariq Ali on Obama and Empire

2009-08-22 Thread sobuadhaigh
The Kasama site has posted this presentation by Tariq Ali on Obama (and American Imperialism in general) from a conference this summer. The talk is well worth listening to. http://mikeely.wordpress.com/ As long as you're on that site you may as well see the Jay-Z Maoist rap video.

Re: [Marxism] Words (Cuban economy)

2009-08-22 Thread Bhaskar Sunkara
If Cuba pursued an industrial development plan it would have ended up looking more like Albania than Japan. Socialism in one country is impossible, I don't see anything wrong with Cuba's general economic policy. (and actually I'm a fan of the term bureaucratic collectivist) On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at

Re: [Marxism] Words-Cuban economy

2009-08-22 Thread sobuadhaigh
Nada wrote: I think we ought not to get into a debate on the class nature of Cuban society Please note that I said absolutely nothing abut the class nature of Cuba ... no one thinks that Havana ought to become the second city of Ford Motor Company or be the biggest producer of industrial

[Marxism] How the blockade of Cuba really works

2009-08-22 Thread Pat Costello
Pedro Álvarez, the President of Alimport, the company responsible for bringing food products to market in Cuba declared that despite the fact that the United States market is a promising one with growth indicators, even while traditional suppliers remain, purchases from the U.S. have faded, due

[Marxism] A State Department at the Service of Petty Interests

2009-08-22 Thread Pat Costello
When the U.S. Government announced that it would deny Adriana Pérez a visa for the tenth time in eleven years in order to come from Cuba to the United States and visit her husband, Gerardo Hernández, incarcerated at the federal prison in Victorville, California, it carefully chose the date to

[Marxism] Tom Daschle: point man for health care scam

2009-08-22 Thread Louis Proyect
NY Times, August 23, 2009 Daschle Has Ear of White House and Health Industry By DAVID D. KIRKPATRICK WASHINGTON — Six months have passed since the morning when Tom Daschle, a former Senate Democratic leader, under fire for not paying certain taxes, called President Obama in his study off the

Re: [Marxism] Alexander Cockburn RIP

2009-08-22 Thread Jim Farmelant
On Sat, 22 Aug 2009 13:46:52 -0400 gregoryabut...@aol.com writes: David, I'm not familiar with the history of the Eugenics movement in the Kingdom of Spain - but I am familiar with the history of the Eugenics movement? here in the United States of America. Historically, Eugenics

Re: [Marxism] Words (was 'Alexander Cockburn RIP'

2009-08-22 Thread Louis Proyect
Jim Farmelant wrote: Perhaps, either you or Lou can do us the favor of explaining what you mean by scientism. Whenever, I hear people using that term (without explaining what they mean by it), I am tempted to reach for my revolver, which is quite inconvenient for me since I don't own one.

Re: [Marxism] Alexander Cockburn RIP

2009-08-22 Thread Louis Proyect
Jim Farmelant wrote: So once again I will raise the question as to what role would eugenics, voluntary or not, have in a communist society? The main contribution communist society could make toward eugenics is making sure that every baby had access to the food, housing, health and

Re: [Marxism] Words (was 'Alexander Cockburn RIP'

2009-08-22 Thread Louis Proyect
I of course was referring to Deutscher's bio below. This is the sort of thing I had in mind. Trotsky's remarks on the Dnieper Dam are cited in Trotsky's bio: In the south the Dnieper runs its course through the wealthiest industrial lands; and it is wasting the prodigious weight of its

Re: [Marxism] Alexander Cockburn RIP

2009-08-22 Thread John
On Sat, 2009-08-22 at 20:26 -0400, Jim Farmelant wrote: and probably more than one member of this list has turned to genetic counseling when making reproductive decisions, then it seems to me that, like it or not, voluntary eugenics is something that is already going on, right under our

[Marxism] Race and Class Struggle in the US

2009-08-22 Thread Red Arnie
Comrade Butler raised serious issues in his recent email about the role of racism in the US class struggle. What works do readers recommend to analyze these issues? I will make a compendium from the reader's responses for this list. Arn Kawano

Re: [Marxism] The High Cost of Cheap Food - THE WORKING CLASS NEEDS CHEAP FOOD!

2009-08-22 Thread gregoryabutler
Pat, This article that you approvingly quote from a corporate media mouthpiece, Time Magazine, attacks cheap food - and, implicitly, wants to make meat unaffordable to working class people and the poor. Giving any aid and comfort to this reactionary anti working class line is just wrong and

Re: [Marxism] Words (was 'Alexander Cockburn RIP'

2009-08-22 Thread Shane Mage
On Aug 22, 2009, at 8:34 PM, Louis Proyect wrote: Jim Farmelant wrote: Perhaps, either you or Lou can do us the favor of explaining what you mean by scientism. Whenever, I hear people using that term (without explaining what they mean by it), I am tempted to reach for my revolver, which

Re: [Marxism] Words (was 'Alexander Cockburn RIP')

2009-08-22 Thread gregoryabutler
David, Actually, Max Schactman WAS one of those out of touch New York intellectuals? I was referring to! The fact that the SWP had him in charge of their Negro Question work proves my point! The SWP was the source of Trotsky's half baked and incorrect information on the Negro Question