[Marxism] POLITICS-US: Activists, Big Business Converge on G20 Meet

2009-09-21 Thread Noah S. Zweig
A colleague asked me to forward this article. Thanks and regards, Noah http://www.ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=48514 POLITICS-US: Activists, Big Business Converge on G20 Meet Jeb Sprague PITTSBURGH, Sep 20 (IPS) - As media and government delegates prepare for the G20 Summit to be held Sep.

Re: [Marxism] Germany's Die Linke shows the way for the left

2009-09-21 Thread Lüko Willms
Einde O'Callaghan (eind...@freenet.de) wrote on 2009-09-21 at 00:28:04 in about Re: [Marxism] Germany's Die Linke shows the way for the left: The key question for Marxists in Germany is not whether DIE LINKE is reformist or not, but where Marxists should be active given the weakness of

Re: [Marxism] WW2: interimperialist war to redivide the world,

2009-09-21 Thread Lüko Willms
nada (dwalters...@gmail.com) wrote on 2009-09-20 at 16:54:15 in about Re: [Marxism] WW2: interimperialist war to redivide the world,: I wasn't talking about 1945. I was talking about 1942, 43 and 44. US involvement (or anyones involvement) wasn't a mechanical placement of troops or

Re: [Marxism] WW2: interimperialist war to redivide the world

2009-09-21 Thread Lüko Willms
Néstor Gorojovsky (nmg...@gmail.com) wrote on 2009-09-20 at 19:10:43 in about Re: [Marxism] WW2: interimperialist war to redivide the world: I think that, in a general perspective, both Lüko and DWalters are right. Because whoever won the dispute over the redistribution would herald the

Re: [Marxism] WW2: interimperialist war to redivide the world

2009-09-21 Thread Tom O'Lincoln
David worte some time ago, regarding World War II Or the Indonesians? WHY did they welcome British and US troops then? Was there something WORSE about the Japanese occupation vs the historic Dutch or US occupations? I don't know what Lou said in reply, because when I click on it I get an error

Re: [Marxism] Here is the Marx section

2009-09-21 Thread Mehmet Cagatay
Mr. Perelman, thank you for sharing the sketch of your forthcoming speech in Turkey with us. I intend to present my critique after I read the finished version of it. For now, I'd like offer a couple of thoughts albeit they are not mine but no regrets since we often don't have any thoughts of

[Marxism] Tribute ot Com. Upali Cooray

2009-09-21 Thread new wave
Comrades, Here is the obituary to Com. Upali Cooray, written by Com. Charles Wesley Ervin. http://new-wave-nw.blogspot.com/ http://new-wave-nw.blogspot.com/2009/06/tribute-to-upali-cooray-1939-2009.html -- New Wave new-wave-nw.blogspot.com YOU

[Marxism] Juan Cole on Ahmadinejad's latest speech on the holocaust

2009-09-21 Thread Louis Proyect
http://www.juancole.com/2009/09/ahmadinejad-spews-raving-lunatic-anti.html YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at:

[Marxism] American labor and class

2009-09-21 Thread Louis Proyect
Bill Moyers interview with Bill Fletcher Jr. and Michael Zweig: http://www.zcommunications.org/znet/viewArticle/22650 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your

Re: [Marxism] Juan Cole on Ahmadinejad's latest speech on the holocaust

2009-09-21 Thread Louis Proyect
Andrew Pollack wrote: I checked Juan Cole's site first thing after reading the Times account to see if once again Ahmedinejad had been mistranslated. I checked it again after Louis posted this link and it's been updated. Cole is still furious at him but has modified some of his earlier

Re: [Marxism] Juan Cole on Ahmadinejad's latest speech on the holocaust

2009-09-21 Thread Andrew Pollack
Louis is right, it is puzzling. On a related front, see http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1253198161088pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull for an account of how archZionist Stewart Appelbaum has broadened out his anti-Iran campaign to rope in the NAACP, AFL-CIO, J Street, and Americans

[Marxism] Turkey: Final Version?

2009-09-21 Thread michael perelman
Here is the final draft (I believe) of my lecture. First of all, I want to thank all of you who made suggestions and corrections, especially Sartasian and Mehmet. I very much appreciate that sort of help. Further suggestions, of course, are welcome. It is posted at:

Re: [Marxism] Germany's Die Linke shows the way for the left

2009-09-21 Thread Lüko Willms
Einde O'Callaghan (eind...@freenet.de) wrote on 2009-09-21 at 17:20:58 in about Re: [Marxism] Germany's Die Linke shows the way for the left: Lüko Willms wrote: Einde O'Callaghan (eind...@freenet.de) wrote on 2009-09-21 at 00:28:04 in about Re: [Marxism] Germany's Die Linke shows

Re: [Marxism] Juan Cole on Ahmadinejad's latest speech on the holocaust

2009-09-21 Thread Mark Lause
To clarify, I didn't mean that the stories about Ahmadinejad were plants, but the stories about what the opposition was chanting. Until we see a tape of it...I'd be skeptical. As we know, the US particularly tends to shape these oppositions to something usable...and perceptions of those

[Marxism] Fwd: Ahmadinejad holocaust denial discussion on marxmail

2009-09-21 Thread Thomas Bias
Concerning this slogan,Not Gaza, Not Lebanon, We Will Die for Iran, Dennis, I have had extensive discussion with Abbas Goya of the Worker-Communist Party of Iran. According to Abbas, this is indeed what people were chanting, and he defends it. I tried to explain the concept of

Re: [Marxism] Fwd: Ahmadinejad holocaust denial discussion on marxmail

2009-09-21 Thread Andrew Pollack
It's possible in this individual's case that youthful inexperience is to blame. But the WCPI has been around the block quite a few times, and I'm more inclined to put his chauvinism down to the backwardness of the party, which is Islamophobic. On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 2:16 PM, Thomas Bias

Re: [Marxism] Turkey: Final Version?

2009-09-21 Thread S. Artesian
Typos: page 1, 8th line from bottom: mid-20th century [not min-20th] page 5, 9th line from top: the penny press offered an [not and] inexpensive outlet. As for the medical analogy: even the best doctors, thus who wholeheartedly support, and engage their patients, are constrained in

Re: [Marxism] WW2: interimperialist war to redivide the world

2009-09-21 Thread Tom Cod
I appreciate where David is coming from but I think here he is giving the Devil more than his due. An uncle of mine was in the Marines in WW2 out there and was by no means a flaming radical, but told us that he was always troubled by the Australian planters he ran into out there and the way

Re: [Marxism] WW2: interimperialist war to redivide the world,

2009-09-21 Thread nada
Tom, thanks for your comments. It is not for me, historically, whether WWII was a good war. No imperialist war ever is Good. For that matter, no war is good. But...my question always revolves around what if (Louis P. hates 'what ifs', understandably) Britain was, say, knocked out of the war,

Re: [Marxism] Turkey: Final Version?

2009-09-21 Thread Michael Perelman
I like what you are doing with the medical analogy. I am not sure that the time constraints at the conference will allow me to expand on it. If I did, I would go on to the way that capitalist medicine concentrates on the individual relationship, like to economist focuses on the transaction.

Re: [Marxism] Turkey: Final Version?

2009-09-21 Thread Pat Byrne
I intrude on this discussion about the upcoming conference in Istanbul with some trepidation because I can't claim to be a marxist economist. The problem I have with traditional Marxist economics is that I don't feel it offers enough assistance on how to intervene in the political process that

[Marxism] Pittsburgh Sept. 20 Demo: videos and eyewitness report

2009-09-21 Thread jayroth6
Video Various sections of the march http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-fCmmxZd6Y Rosemary Williams http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCnBqnB7j-o Victor Toro http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIVoFbILRIE Rocky from North Carolina FIST http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HoNtah2Fkcs Clarence

Re: [Marxism] WW2: interimperialist war to redivide the world,

2009-09-21 Thread Tom Cod
a good fictional scenario of the legacy of this outcome is the movie Fatherlandabout a super-power summit between Hitler, who is turning 75 and President Kennedy in Berlin in 1964. President Joseph Kennedy that is. (who not only approved the 1938 Munichdeal but who was actually one of its

Re: [Marxism] Turkey: Final Version?

2009-09-21 Thread Mehmet Bayram
Michael, I am sure you will enjoy your visit to Turkey. Thank you for your presentation as well.  You may find quite a lot of people in Turkey who may argue that while Marx's analysis on capitalism is correct, as you also state: He took the fundamental categories of classical political economy,

Re: [Marxism] Here is the correct link: sorry

2009-09-21 Thread Michael Perelman
Thank you very much. On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 03:49:13PM -0700, johnaimani wrote: Last sentence reads: This challenge will be exceedingly difficult, because capital's allies have become so sophisticated that tapping into the public's irrational emotions of fear and anger. Should

Re: [Marxism] Turkey: Final Version?

2009-09-21 Thread Michael Perelman
On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 11:58:14PM +0300, Pat Byrne wrote: market', the efficiency of the price system etc.. Thus the overwhelming majority of the world's intelligentsia has accepted that despite massive evidence to the contrary, capitalism is the most effective means of delivering growth and

[Marxism-Thaxis] Top Stories

2009-09-21 Thread c b
Top Stories, Video and Blog Posts for AlterNet September 21st, 2009 http://www.alternet.org ___ BILL MOYERS: CONSERVATIVE RADICALS AND THE POLITICS OF VENGEANCE By Bill Moyers, Bill Moyers Journal Intellectual conservatism is dead. And the