a good fictional scenario of the legacy of this outcome is the movie "Fatherland"about a super-power summit between Hitler, who is turning 75 and President Kennedy in Berlin in 1964. President Joseph Kennedy that is. (who not only approved the 1938 Munichdeal but who was actually one of its architects).
> Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 13:26:58 -0700 > From: dwalters...@gmail.com > Subject: Re: [Marxism] "WW2": interimperialist war to redivide the world, > To: t...@hotmail.com > > Tom, thanks for your comments. > > It is not for me, historically, whether WWII was a "good war". No > imperialist war ever is "Good". For that matter, no war is "good". > But...my question always revolves around what if (Louis P. hates 'what > ifs', understandably) Britain was, say, knocked out of the war, forced > to sue for peace from the Germans. Totally plausible. [Same with the US > in the Pacific and the US was forced to not participate in the war in > any meaningful measure.] This avoids the question of a successful peace > or, "America First" question, per se, but with the same results. This is > especially an important question for Europe and, more specifically, the > USSR and a Nazi occupied Europe. I simply see "Britain losing" (a > colloquial version of a Leninist defeatist position) as not particularly > a good thing, and in fact disastrous for humanity. And this is where I > depart from common Trotskyist positions on WWII, which, arguably, is > most 'orthodox' of Leninist positions out there on this subject. > > David > > ________________________________________________ > YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. > Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu > Set your options at: > http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/tcod%40hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail®. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_QuickAdd_062009 ________________________________________________ YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
