Re: [Marxism] Fwd: Fred Hampton

2009-11-07 Thread Asad Haider
An excellent article on Dylan by Bill Drummond of the KLF: http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2007/oct/02/folk On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 1:44 AM, Kenneth Morgan kenmor1...@gmail.com wrote: S. Artesian wrote: Actually, Dylan was/is an egotistical jerk, and should have been walked out on during his

[Marxism] Chris Harman died

2009-11-07 Thread Louis Proyect
http://leninology.blogspot.com/2009/11/chris-harman-rip.html Saturday, November 07, 2009 Chris Harman RIP posted by lenin I am saddened to hear the news that Chris Harman, revolutionary socialist and leading theoretician of the International Socialist tradition, died following a cardiac arrest

[Marxism] Rise of the dark pools

2009-11-07 Thread Marv Gandall
From a speech to the Senate by Delaware Senator Ted Kaufman, published in yesterday's Huffington Post: (High frequency or flash trading refers to the growing practice of investment houses like Goldman Sachs to locate and program servers next to exchanges, giving them split second advance access

[Marxism] Hilarious roundtable of gay strategizing

2009-11-07 Thread David Thorstad
While quite funny in places, this is an excellent critique of how wrongheaded the current gay agenda is. David http://www.bilerico.com/2009/11/why_gay_marriage_is_the_end_of_the_world_or_the_qu.php YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when

Re: [Marxism] Problems composing a reply

2009-11-07 Thread Louis Proyect
Jeff wrote: Lou, you must be aware of what an unreasonable demand that is! I absolutely reject any website, for instance, that tells me I have to use a different browser or to install their preferred software; those are decisions I will make based on the whole of my computer experience, not an

[Marxism] A Nato Without Turkey? from WSJ

2009-11-07 Thread Emrah Goker
David Schenker, Soner Çağaptay's (author of that Is Turkey Leaving the West? article, http://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/65634/soner-cagaptay/is-turkey-leaving-the-west) colleague from Washington Institute of Near East Policy, on the same topic, saying about the same thing:

[Marxism] hotmail email

2009-11-07 Thread Aero Elastic
so, here is a brand new Windows Live (TM) hotmail account to see how well it handles email formatting. a cursory glance at the options page reveals no way to set up any things like proper word wrap etc. i have yet to hit the Enter key so it will be interesting to see how this comes out on

Re: [Marxism] hotmail email

2009-11-07 Thread Les Schaffer
Aero Elastic wrote: there are plenty of options for parental controls and what not. this is the software Jeff wants us revolutionaries to use for submitting to marxmail? phooey! Dear aeroelastic: your two paragraph message came in as two very long lines. i am sorry to have to say this, but

Re: [Marxism] New book on Fred Hampton assassination

2009-11-07 Thread Guy Miller
No doubt Hampton was out of line at that convention. I remember feeling sorry for Derek Morrison being put in that position. But to draw the conclusion that Hampton was nothing but an egotistical, ultra left jerk, from that one occasion is a hair trigger reaction. The Panthers were a work in

Re: [Marxism] Problems composing a reply

2009-11-07 Thread Louis Proyect
Les Schaffer wrote: Louis Proyect wrote: it must be some setting i am using but i can't figure out what it is. here is my buffer replying to Tom's message: http://www.marxmail.org/notha-cod-reply.PNG you see it is wrapped fine. however if you check the text view of his message

Re: [Marxism] Problems composing a reply

2009-11-07 Thread Les Schaffer
Louis Proyect wrote: The problem is not in reading the mail from Yahoo et al. Thunderbird handles this okay. It is *replying*. When you try to reply, the long line phenomenon kicks in. Just try it... the pic i posted IS a reply buffer. it must be some setting i have enabled, but i cannot

Re: [Marxism] Problems composing a reply

2009-11-07 Thread Louis Proyect
Les Schaffer wrote: the pic i posted IS a reply buffer. it must be some setting i have enabled, but i cannot figure out what it is. And you have an engineering degree from MIT and a PhD in physics from Cornell! That's an argument for Gmail if there ever was one.

Re: [Marxism] New book on Fred Hampton assassination

2009-11-07 Thread S. Artesian
Sure the Panthers were a work in progress, or more accurately a work in regress, since the Black Panthers I first knew about were the Panthers in the Lowndes Co {Alabama}Freedom Organization, organized by SNCC voter-registration workers and the African-American community. Be that as it may--

Re: [Marxism] Problems composing a reply

2009-11-07 Thread Les Schaffer
S. Artesian wrote: In that case, from now on it's Dr. Schaffer. when i was a kid at summer camp the father of one of my camp mates was a doctor (dentist actually, as i recall). one day on the baseball field i said Hi Mr !!! all excited, and the guy looks me right in the eyes and says Dr.

Re: [Marxism] The very worst slander......

2009-11-07 Thread Les Schaffer
Jeff wrote: Absolutely the worst thing you could have said about me!! i've unsubbed that swine aero.elastic. My only point was that the incompatibility involved had to do not with the sender of unwrapped emails (which is not uncommon or troublesome in almost all cases), but with the program

[Marxism] Marooned on Sea of Iraqi Oil, but Unable to Tap Its Wealth

2009-11-07 Thread Bonnie Weinstein
Marooned on Sea of Iraqi Oil, but Unable to Tap Its Wealth “The area around Basra, Iraq’s second largest city and main port, accounts for as much as 80 percent of the country’s oil production. It has emerged as Iraq’s best hope for stability and prosperity as it prepares to sell off its top

Re: [Marxism] Problems composing a reply

2009-11-07 Thread Les Schaffer
Lou: ok, i figured out why i do not have the long line when i reply. you wont believe this, but: for each account in Thunderbird, you can go to the settings for that account and click on CompositionAddressing and click ON the use of HTML formatting. the text then gets properly wrapped in the

Re: [Marxism] New Book on Fred Hampton Assasination

2009-11-07 Thread Louis Proyect
Tom Cod wrote: I think Guy Miller hits the nail right on the head. Proyect quotes from Malcolm on the OAU, so? If you can't tell the difference between off the pigs and Malcolm's formulations, you obviously don't understand the abc's of Marxism. Read Trotsky's history of the Russian

Re: [Marxism] Hampton

2009-11-07 Thread Tom Cod
Black Panther Party Program courtesy of Dave W. and the MIA: http://www.marxists.org/history/usa/workers/black-panthers/1966/10/15.htm so there was a lot more to it than off the pigs just as the Bolshevik Revolution included a lot of vulgar rhetoric not included in Trotsky's book.

Re: [Marxism] Panthers

2009-11-07 Thread Tom Cod
many thanks to the brother from: www.route-one.org Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 15:02:21 -0500 From: rjacobs3...@charter.net Subject: Re: [Marxism] Panthers The Panthers were more than gun fetishists. They understood the doctrine of self-defense and carried guns during their copwatch drives

Re: [Marxism] New Book on Fred Hampton Assasination

2009-11-07 Thread Louis Proyect
Marv Gandall wrote: The CP was uniformally opposed to the Panthers' program and tactics in much the same way the SWP was. Within both organizations, however, there were members who had a more tolerant approach to the Panthers and those who could barely contain their hostility - often

Re: [Marxism] Bob Dylan

2009-11-07 Thread S. Artesian
I just thought his music sucked. - Original Message - From: Ron J rjacobs3...@charter.net To: David Schanoes sartes...@earthlink.net Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 2:13 PM Subject: [Marxism] Bob Dylan I always get a kick out of doctrinaire leftists when they talk about Bob Dylan.

Re: [Marxism] New Book on Fred Hampton Assasination

2009-11-07 Thread Jim Farmelant
On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 17:40:52 -0500 Louis Proyect l...@panix.com writes: Marv Gandall wrote: The CP was uniformally opposed to the Panthers' program and tactics in much the same way the SWP was. Within both organizations, however, there were members who had a more tolerant approach to

Re: [Marxism] New Book on Fred Hampton Assasination

2009-11-07 Thread Bob Morris
“it’s just idiocy for the Panthers to talk about all power growing from the barrel of a gun when the other side has all the guns.” -- Saul Alinsky YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. Send list submissions to:

[Marxism] Vanguard (was Re: Hampton)

2009-11-07 Thread Shane Mage
On Nov 7, 2009, at 6:29 PM, S. Artesian wrote: ...The Panthers claimed to be a vanguard,... What exactly is a vanguard? For every great commander, from Hannibal to Rommel, the role of the vanguard is to be first to attack the enemy's front line. It is expected to undergo heavy

Re: [Marxism] Vanguard (was Re: Hampton)

2009-11-07 Thread Mark Lause
Military analogies have their limits, but a very badly led force can also take heavy casualties. Great losses, in and of themselves, do not a vanguard make. ML YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. Send list submissions to:

Re: [Marxism] Bob Dylan

2009-11-07 Thread Jeffrey Thomas Piercy
Every middle-aged person I know loves him, except my father who thinks... his music sucks. He doesn't have radically different musical tastes in general, he just doesn't like Dylan. Maybe it's cause by a rare, recessive anti-Dylan gene. I don't know. S. Artesian wrote: I just thought his music

[Marxism] Felipe Stuart: comment on NYT edit on Honduras

2009-11-07 Thread Fred Feldman
Felipe Stuart is a comrade with many years of experience in Central America. The New York Times edit is reprinted in my previous post on this list. Fred Feldman Felipe Stuart comments: What the New York Times fails to acknowledge is that Washington's strategy of putting the coup regime and the