Re: [Marxism] China's high speed rail plans

2009-09-04 Thread Lueko Willms
S. Artesian (sartes...@earthlink.net) wrote on 2009-09-04 at 00:38:31 in about Re: [Marxism] China's high speed rail plans: Funny isn't it how neither Trotsky in his History of the Russian Revolution, nor Lenin in his various writing mentions that the Petrograd and Moscow Soviets during

Re: [Marxism] China's high speed rail plans

2009-09-03 Thread Lüko Willms
S. Artesian (sartes...@earthlink.net) wrote on 2009-09-02 at 10:24:47 in about Re: [Marxism] China's high speed rail plans: So here we have LW's reasons to be cheerful. The Chinese nation is being strengthened, it is recovering from the Japanese invasion. It is throwing off the legacy

Re: [Marxism] China's high speed rail plans

2009-09-03 Thread S. Artesian
marvgand...@videotron.ca To: David Schanoes sartes...@earthlink.net Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 12:24 PM Subject: Re: [Marxism] China's high speed rail plans ? == Of course not. And I think we could also agree that China's reverting to Maoist autarchy

Re: [Marxism] China's high speed rail plans

2009-09-03 Thread Lüko Willms
S. Artesian (sartes...@earthlink.net) wrote on 2009-09-03 at 13:50:21 in about Re: [Marxism] China's high speed rail plans: Anyway, in going off the track you duplicate the error of LW, confusing growth with development, development with capitalist development, the means of production

Re: [Marxism] China's high speed rail plans

2009-09-03 Thread S. Artesian
Schanoes sartes...@earthlink.net Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 9:38 PM Subject: Re: [Marxism] China's high speed rail plans YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set

Re: [Marxism] China's high speed rail plans

2009-09-03 Thread Marv Gandall
Artesian writes: As for your spark a run on the dollar would lead to a grave international economic and political crisis whose outcome would more likely than not be catastrophic rather than positive for both the Chinese and American working classes, that is simply absurd... It's the

Re: [Marxism] China's high speed rail plans

2009-09-02 Thread S. Artesian
lueko.wil...@t-online.de To: David Schanoes sartes...@earthlink.net Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 1:52 AM Subject: Re: [Marxism] China's high speed rail plans S. Artesian (sartes...@earthlink.net) wrote on 2009-09-01 at 17:16:09 in about Re: [Marxism] China's high speed rail plans: So

Re: [Marxism] China's high speed rail plans

2009-09-01 Thread Lüko Willms
S. Artesian (sartes...@earthlink.net) wrote on 2009-09-01 at 17:16:09 in about Re: [Marxism] China's high speed rail plans: So, no the whole thing is not making use or bowing down, the whole thing is rather what class is being strengthened by the path, the policy, the economic programs

Re: [Marxism] China's high speed rail plans

2009-09-01 Thread Leonardo Kosloff
Ah, but Mage, you forget that in Néstor's dictionary it isn't social being, i.e. the social relation borne by the capital form, which determines consciousness, but the abstract consciousness (perdy, no other than that of the CCP bureaucracy) of commodity producers which determines the former,