Re: [Marxism] Role of the Army

2010-11-08 Thread S. Artesian
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == We should not forget how this discussion started-- which was about discrimination

[Marxism] role of the army

2010-11-08 Thread Peggy Dobbins
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == I've cut and pasted Artesian's comments and reply in the other font Artesian

Re: [Marxism] role of the army

2010-11-08 Thread Mark Lause
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Just a comment on the teabaggers, the problems always been defining who is and

Re: [Marxism] Role of the Army

2010-11-07 Thread Paul Flewers
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Re Kenneth Morgan's posting, it's noteworthy that many of the countries in Western

Re: [Marxism] Role of the Army

2010-11-07 Thread Peggy Dobbins
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Accepting Engel's definition of The State as The Laws [that support the

Re: [Marxism] Role of the Army

2010-11-07 Thread Mark Lause
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 4:59 PM, Peggy Dobbins pegdobb...@gmail.com wrote: How

Re: [Marxism] Role of the Army

2010-11-07 Thread Peggy Dobbins
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == 'twas as I said a modest proposal in the spirit of Cox's Army of unemployed in

Re: [Marxism] Role of the Army

2010-11-07 Thread Carrol Cox
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Mark Lause: It's an older proposal than that... try Edward Bellamy from the 1880s

Re: [Marxism] Role of the Army

2010-11-07 Thread Mark Lause
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == I meant the specific plan of turning the army towards nonmilitary, socially useful

Re: [Marxism] Role of the Army

2010-11-06 Thread Dan
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == So this is an (unforeseen, by me) major difference between the Marxist Leninist and

Re: [Marxism] Role of the Army

2010-11-06 Thread Louis Proyect
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == On 11/6/10 3:32 PM, Dan wrote: According to the pre-1914 CGT (an openly

Re: [Marxism] Role of the Army

2010-11-06 Thread Dan
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Well, Louis, the position of the Kronstadt rebels (or the Makhnovtshitshina army,

Re: [Marxism] Role of the Army

2010-11-06 Thread Dan
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Artesian, I hold your views in great esteem, and I believe that as Marxists, we

Re: [Marxism] Role of the Army

2010-11-06 Thread S. Artesian
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Those are very good points about the transformation of the military with the

Re: [Marxism] Role of the Army

2010-11-06 Thread Marv Gandall
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Here's one Marine Corps Major General I'd be prepared to posthumously absolve: I

Re: [Marxism] Role of the Army

2010-11-06 Thread Kenneth Morgan
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 4:09 PM, S. Artesian sartes...@earthlink.net wrote: The

Re: [Marxism] Role of the Army

2010-11-06 Thread johnedmundson
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == S.Artesian wrote: I think Marxists should be in favor of UNIVERSAL military

Re: [Marxism] Role of the Army

2010-11-06 Thread Dan
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == There is talk about the Paris Commune as an example of units from the national

Re: [Marxism] Role of the Army

2010-11-06 Thread Intense Red
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == I think Marxists should be in favor of UNIVERSAL military service, yes,

[Marxism] Role of the Army

2010-11-04 Thread Dan
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == The Army is the enemy of the people. Whether an external threat or an internal

Re: [Marxism] Role of the Army

2010-11-04 Thread S. Artesian
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Take it easy, Dan. That's hardly the point of disagreement. Nobody is arguing

Re: [Marxism] Role of the Army

2010-11-04 Thread Peggy Dobbins
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 6:26 PM, Dan d.koech...@wanadoo.fr wrote: The Army is the

Re: [Marxism] Role of the Army

2010-11-04 Thread Bill Quimby
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == I thought that the argument was 1. If the army is (generally, in all but the most

Re: [Marxism] Role of the Army

2010-11-04 Thread DW
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Bill, you ask how anyone joining the army could be defended. Defended in what way?

Re: [Marxism] Role of the Army

2010-11-04 Thread David Picón Álvarez
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == For goodness' sake. What's so bloody hard about this? Capitalist employers are

Re: [Marxism] Role of the Army

2010-11-04 Thread Kenneth Morgan
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 7:10 PM, DW dwalters...@gmail.com wrote: I talked with a

Re: [Marxism] Role of the Army

2010-11-04 Thread Manuel Barrera
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Sartesian said: Exactly, again. It cannot be any simpler. We oppose

Re: [Marxism] Role of the Army

2010-11-04 Thread Mark Lause
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == We play by rules not of their making. We all survive by selling our labor to

Re: [Marxism] Role of the Army

2010-11-04 Thread S. Artesian
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