Re: [Marxism] Good critique of Walter Benn Michaels's NLR article

2009-09-07 Thread Louis Proyect
Bhaskar Sunkara wrote: No where is this insinuated. I can't understand how anyone could take that reading from his article. To repeat myself, WBM is a *very* slippery character. His prose is open to multiple interpretations, no doubt a function of his exposure to too many ALA conferences.

Re: [Marxism] Tweaking of DNA dating on human evolution

2009-09-07 Thread Anthony Hartin
The way to think of this is to go back before the Eve and ask how those lines disappeared. Every time a new human is created, it'll have the mitochondrial DNA of its mother's mother and that of its father's mother isn't passed on. Every role of the dice loses 50%. So, over time, the probability

[Marxism] South Africa’s Poor Renew a Traditio n of Protest

2009-09-07 Thread Louis Proyect
NY Times, September 7, 2009 South Africa’s Poor Renew a Tradition of Protest By BARRY BEARAK SIYATHEMBA, South Africa — This country’s rituals of protest most often call for the burning of tires, the barricading of streets and the throwing of rocks. So when the municipal mayor here went to

Re: [Marxism] Tweaking of DNA dating on human evolution

2009-09-07 Thread S. Artesian
Shane wrote: And the contradiction is crucial, because the hypothesis of constancy for the rate of change in mitochondrial DNA depends on the assumption of constancy in the environmental conditions determining that rate of change, and such gradualism would guarantee the survival of more than

Re: [Marxism] [Pen-l] Life insurance now being bundled like subprime mortgages

2009-09-07 Thread Gar Lipow
On 9/6/09, Louis Proyect l...@panix.com wrote: NY Times, September 6, 2009 Back to Business Wall Street Pursues Profit in Bundles of Life Insurance By JENNY ANDERSON This takes an old (and disgusting) but profitable scam, and ruins it to generate bubble. Industry has made money by taking out

Re: [Marxism] Good critique of Walter Benn Michaels's NLR article

2009-09-07 Thread Bhaskar Sunkara
This is probably a very valid point. There should no question that the immigrant rights movements and organizing among other marginalized groups should be a primary focus for Marxists right now. I despise when people dismiss the White working class as hopelessly reactionary, but there is no

[Marxism] Marx in the Toronto Star

2009-09-07 Thread brad bauerly
http://www.thestar.com/default Marx and his ideas rise from the dustbin of history TheStar.com - Opinion - Marx and his ideas rise from the dustbin of history Profound understanding of capitalist dynamics has come to the fore during the current crisis September 07, 2009 *Leo Panitch *Research

Re: [Marxism] Good critique of Walter Benn Michaels's NLR article

2009-09-07 Thread Tyler Zimmer
No where is this insinuated. I can't understand how anyone could take that reading from his article. From his NLR piece entitled 'Against Diversity': “In 1947 –seven years before Brown v. Board of Education, sixteen years before The Feminine Mystique –the top fifth of American wage-earners

Re: [Marxism] What to do? [Early morn Labor Day thoughts]

2009-09-07 Thread Bhaskar Sunkara
I honestly don't think that our energies should be put toward electoral efforts by third parties. But there is no doubt that in the long-term a party of the working class is an absolutely necessity. Now I'm largely paraphrasing Larhs Lih and Mike Macnair, but such a party would need to be both a

Re: [Marxism] What to do? [Early morn Labor Day thoughts]

2009-09-07 Thread Louis Proyect
Bhaskar Sunkara wrote: Maybe it's the naivety of youth, but I don't see why such an organization couldn't openly run candidates in Democratic primaries on an openly Marxist, oppositional platform for the sake of not a fantasy to transform or push the Democrats left, but to reach out to

Re: [Marxism] What to do? [Early morn Labor Day thoughts]

2009-09-07 Thread Bhaskar Sunkara
The same could be said of the Greens, except that primary campaign would be irrelevant. But what is the Democratic Party? Certainly it's largely neoliberal, bourgeois to say the least-- perhaps the world's second most enthusiastic major capitalist party. But is there not open primaries? Can a

Re: [Marxism] Tweaking of DNA dating on human evolution

2009-09-07 Thread S. Artesian
Shane, You're just flat out wrong. The mutation that produces sickle cell was not caused by the environmental pressure of malaria in Africa, despite the fact that the mutation yields some resistance to the infection. The mutation once produced was Selected For and survived due to sexual

Re: [Marxism] What to do? [Early morn Labor Day thoughts]

2009-09-07 Thread Louis Proyect
Bhaskar Sunkara wrote: The same could be said of the Greens, except that primary campaign would be irrelevant. The Greens are dead, mostly the result of tail-ending the Democrats. But what is the Democratic Party? Certainly it's largely neoliberal, bourgeois to say the least-- perhaps

Re: [Marxism] Tweaking of DNA dating on human evolution

2009-09-07 Thread Mark Lause
I'm not sure that what Shane's responding to as what I wrote is actually what I wrote. I don't, for example, understand how any of this has to do with extinction or with speciation. The mitochondrial DNA has nothing to do with the DNA in the cell's nucleus that passes on genetic information. In

Re: [Marxism] Voting with feet, not commendable in Argentina Re: China'shigh speed rail plans

2009-09-07 Thread Tom Cod
What about the ERP? Wikipedia has an article on them that I think includes links to YouTube stuff on them in Spanish. they were at the heart of a heated faction fight within the trotskyist movement back in the 70s even though had summarily split from that at the time. While they were

Re: [Marxism] Voting with feet, not commendable in Argentina Re: China's high speed rail plans

2009-09-07 Thread Louis Proyect
Leonardo Kosloff wrote: * when I say distributionist, I'm referring, daring as I am, to Marx's Critique of the Gotha Programme: Vulgar socialism (and from it in turn a section of the democrats) has taken over from the bourgeois economists the consideration and treatment of distribution

Re: [Marxism] Tweaking of DNA dating on human evolution

2009-09-07 Thread S. Artesian
ML wrote: We ARE all her descendants. But we are also descendants of all her female contemporaries who were making viable contributions to the gene pool. That's essentially a dead certainty. ML That is exactly correct. There is a matrilineal line of descent that takes

Re: [Marxism] What to do?

2009-09-07 Thread brad bauerly
To activists in the US it should be painfully obvious to them that there is no hope for coalition building. It is either the Democrats or something outside of power. I don't understand all the talk about die Linke etc. It is kind of a waste of time. There will never be a coalition govenment

Re: [Marxism] What to do?

2009-09-07 Thread Mark Lause
Good for you, then. My mistake on 2008. The $64,000 question, of course, is how to go about building the organization you're advocating. ML YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. Send list submissions to:

[Marxism] Voting with feet, not commendable in Argentina Re: China's high speed rail plans

2009-09-07 Thread Leonardo Kosloff
Louis Proyect wrote: My main disagreement with Nestor is his tendency to apply such examples to Iran, China or other countries with nominally anti-imperialist governments but at least he errs on the side of living reality rather than quote-mongering from Marx. Well, Louis, as always, I

Re: [Marxism] Voting with feet, not commendable in Argentina Re: China's high speed rail plans

2009-09-07 Thread Louis Proyect
Leonardo Kosloff wrote: But I’m starting to notice here, that Néstor and I perhaps started with the left foot, so given the circumstances which I’m starting to feel out, and as I take it, that he is man of struggle, I’ll try to keep the quotes to a minimum, or just plagiarize them. Take a

Re: [Marxism] Voting with feet, not commendable in Argentina Re: China's high speed rail plans

2009-09-07 Thread Nestor Gorojovsky
Yes, perhaps we started on the wrong foot. I have never suggested that the transitional period should be capitalist just because it has to carry to end tasks that the bourgeoisie cannot take to their fulfillment. And, Leonardo, though I am no Peronist, not at all, I am still further from

[Marxism] Tough times likely fuel bank heists

2009-09-07 Thread c b
September 7, 2009 Tough times likely fuel bank heists Robberies down this year, but suburbs hit with rash of them BY CHRISTINA HALL FREE PRESS STAFF WRITER It's been a bad couple of weeks for banks in metro Detroit, authorities say. And the recent series of holdups, largely at suburban

Re: [Marxism] Voting with feet, not commendable in Argentina Re: China'shigh speed rail plans

2009-09-07 Thread Tom Cod
Yes, they openly and contemptuously repudiated trotskyism in favor of their version of Guevaraism The view you espouse I think was that of Nahuel Moreno and his faction of the PRT, a distinction the Wiki article on the PRT missed. Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 16:14:47 -0300 From: nmg...@gmail.com

[Marxism] Voting with feet, not commendable in Argentina Re: China's high speed rail plans

2009-09-07 Thread Leonardo Kosloff
True enough. The way I started was stupidly insensitive, careless, perhaps I’m rubbing the crap from other lists, environments, etc., perhaps Louis, putting it in nationalists terms now, or at least those of my barrio, Saavedra, this is an all too common, but bad, habit for us Argentines, or

[Marxism] Establishing a maximum wage

2009-09-07 Thread Pat Costello
The Most Promising Push Yet for a Maximum Wage August 23rd, 2009 Across the pond, in the UK, the idea of capping income is suddenly starting to make a respectable splash. By Sam Pizzigati The Great Depression gave us the minimum wage. Might we now see a “maximum wage,” thanks to the Great

Re: [Marxism] Voting with feet, not commendable in Argentina Re: China'shigh speed rail plans

2009-09-07 Thread nada
I appreciate Nestor's take on the ERP. First time I read anything he wrote on this. Santucho...any SWPers here remember if he was the guy who showed up at the SWP convention in 1973? At least he was NY I think. Very 'hush hush' and all that. I agree about the ERP's Trotskyism. It was episodic

[Marxism] Chomsky meets with Chavez in Venezuela

2009-09-07 Thread Dennis Brasky
By Venezuelanalysis.com - Friday, 04 September 2009 http://www.handsoffvenezuela.org/noam_chomsky_meets_with_chavez_in_venezuela.htm Mérida, August 27th 2009 (Venezuelanalysis.com) -- U.S. author, dissident intellectual, and Professor of Linguistics at the Massachussetts Institute of

[Marxism] PBS History Detectives Scottsboro Nine, ILD, James P. Cannon

2009-09-07 Thread J Rothermel
Check your listings. Very good. http://www.pbs.org/opb/historydetectives/ http://www.pbs.org/opb/historydetectives/investigations/711_scottsboro.html “SCOTTSBORO BOYS’ STAMP AIRING: Season 7, Episode 11 THE DETECTIVE: Gwen Wright THE PLACE: Scottsboro, Alabama

[Marxism] Paul Robeson: `The artist must elect to fight for freedom or slavery' | Links International Journal of Socialist Renewal

2009-09-07 Thread glparramatta
By *Harry Targ* On September 4, 1949, an angry crowd surrounded the 20,000 friends of Paul Robeson who had come to hear him in an open-air concert at Peekskill, New York. After the event right-wing, anti-communist inspired mobs attacked supporters who were leaving the event. These attacks

Re: [Marxism] Voting with feet, not commendable in Argentina Re: China'shigh speed rail plans

2009-09-07 Thread Nestor Gorojovsky
No, my view is not exactly that of Moreno. However, maybe you refer to the dispute between the PRT and PST of those times on electoral tactics, etc. Tom Cod escribió: Yes, they openly and contemptuously repudiated trotskyism in favor of their version of Guevaraism The view you espouse I

[Marxism-Thaxis] While recovery waits, extend jobless benefits

2009-09-07 Thread c b
Posted: Sept. 7, 2009 EDITORIAL Detroit Free Press While recovery waits, extend jobless benefits It's hard to really celebrate Labor Day when 15% of your labor force is out of work, looking and growing increasingly anxious. That is the situation in which Michigan finds itself on this holiday,