Re: [Marxism] Good critique of Walter Benn Michaels's NLR article

2009-09-07 Thread Tyler Zimmer

 No where is this insinuated. I can't understand how anyone could take that
 reading from his article.


From his NLR piece entitled 'Against Diversity':

“In 1947 –seven years before Brown v. Board of Education, sixteen years
before The Feminine Mystique –the top fifth of American wage-earners made 43
percent of the money earned in the US. Today that same quintile gets 50.5
percent. The bottom fifth got 5 per cent of total income; today it gets 3.4
percent. After half a century of anti-racism and feminism, the US today is a
less equal society than was the racist, sexist society of Jim Crow.
Furthermore, virtually all of the growth in equality has taken place since
the Civil Rights Act of 1965- which means not only that the struggle against
discrimination have failed to alleviate inequality, but that *they have been
compatible with a radical expansion of it*. Indeed they have *helped to
enable the increasing gulf* between rich and poor.”

On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 10:36 AM, Bhaskar Sunkara bhaskar.sunk...@gmail.com
wrote:

 This is probably a very valid point.  There should no question that the
 immigrant rights movements
 and organizing among other marginalized groups should be a primary focus
for
 Marxists right now.

 I despise when people dismiss the White working class as hopelessly
 reactionary, but there is no doubt in
  my mind that the embryo of a mass movement would have to start in more
 fertile territory.

 As far as provocation goes if part of his essay challenged leftists who
have
 been seeing Obama, Hillary and Condi
 as mostly beneficiaries of the upheavals of the New Left and the
 post-political left, instead of  neoliberalism ethos.
 I think this is fundamentally correct.

 I was unaware of his stance on diversity in universities.  It sounds
arcane
 and reactionary.

 On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 8:57 AM, Louis Proyect l...@panix.com wrote:

 
  Basically he is an intellectual provocateur like Stanley Fish, who
  enjoys stirring things up. I should mention that Living Marxism, the
  magazine put out by the Spiked Online people, had the *same* analysis as
  him and enjoyed the static it generated on the left. Why people should
  take characters like WBM and Frank Furedi seriously is beyond me since
  they don't take their own selves very seriously.
 
 
 
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Re: [Marxism] Good critique of Walter Benn Michaels's NLR article

2009-09-06 Thread Tyler Zimmer

  A good critique would take what he actually says
 and show how some of it is empirically wrong and politically a bad tactic.


Well, what he sloppily insinuates about income inequality and New Left
movements being the cause of it, is easily refutable.

But as far as tactics are concerned, I'd say that totally distorting the
political trajectory anti-racist social movements with the explicit purpose
of discrediting them, is a pretty awful tactic for building a broad-based
Left.

I read the PinkScare critique. How doesn't that provide a critique of what
he actually says?
-Tyler

On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 2:15 PM, Louis Proyect l...@panix.com wrote:

 brad bauerly wrote:
  I am sorry but that is not a good critique of Benn Michaels.  Like yours
  Louis it too is filled with strawperson arguments based on things that he
  never said.  I am not going to get into specifics of his arguments, which
 I
  personally think he does not present very well, because it is clear that
  most are unable to maintain simple reading comprehension whenever someone
  mentions race and gender.  A good critique would take what he actually
 says
  and show how some of it is empirically wrong and politically a bad
 tactic.
  I have yet to read such a critique and zero interest in writing it.

 I don't think it is possible to mount a good critique of WBM (although I
 tried) because he speaks out of both sides of his mouth. His article
 reads like Jim Sleeper in one passage and like Rosa Luxemberg in
 another. That is his stratagem. He wants to be published in NLR rather
 than in Dissent Magazine.

 But when he says that anti-racism and anti-sexism are not part of the
 left, then he really betrays his backward tendencies. As I pointed out
 to a fellow named Will Shetterly who has been taking up WBM's cause on
 my blog, there's a long line of class trumping race or gender on the
 left, usually however published in Dissent rather than NLR. Here are
 some snippets that I posted on my blog. Tomasky, a rascal if there ever
 was one, sounds most like WBM:

 1) Jim Sleeper: I stuck to my claims, including an insistence that more
 than a few whites are readier to let go of the old racist coordinates
 than are some blacks, who have sought a perverse kind of comfort in
 guilt-tripping whites by finding racism in every leaf that falls.
 (http://www.jimsleeper.com/?p=13)

 2) Todd Gitlin:

 MR. WATTENBERG: And you think the left now has taken their eye off the
 ball. Is that more or less the idea?

 MR. GITLIN: I think that many people, perhaps most on the left, orat
 least most who are visible, have gone down a path in which theyare
 obsessed with what differs between them and one — one crowd and another.
 They are more obsessed with what divides them than what they have in
 common with the rest of humanity.

 MR. WATTENBERG: Who would these groups that engage in identity politics
 be, for specifics?

 MR. GITLIN: Many of them are so-called racial or ethnic minorities, or
 groups who are organized around their narrow group interest. They’re not
 all on the left, by the way. I mean, there’s also a right-wing version
 of identity politics, which is –

 full: http://www.pbs.org/thinktank/transcript235.html

 3) Michael Tomasky:
 Imagine! The principle of diversity supported by a mostly Republican
 group to such an extent that Congress was taken aback. The
 revolutionaries dropped it, left it to the courts. These corporations
 were in fact making a common-good argument to the revolutionaries:
 Diversity has served us well as a whole, enriched us. And it’s not just
 corporate America: All over the country, white attitudes on race,
 straight peoples’ attitudes toward gay people, have changed dramatically
 for the better. These attitudes have changed because liberals and (most)
 Democrats decided that diversity was a principle worth defending on its
 own terms. Put another way, they decided to demand of citizens that they
 come to terms with diversity. So it can work, this demanding.

 
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