Re: [Marxism] A Different Environmental Threat: Peak Rare Minerals, China, and Green Technology

Earlier in this thread someone said: Another claim I hear a lot is that the war in the Congo is driven by minerals, which I don't deny... ... and then refuted a more specific claim about a particular mineral. As far as I know this is the only time Africa was mentioned in this thread (I've

Re: [Marxism] A Different Environmental Threat: Peak Rare Minerals, China, and Green Technology

Hi Michael, This is what comes up when I click on the link you gave: You are not allowed to edit this post. --- Dogan Göcmen (http://dogangocmen.wordpress.com/) Author of The Adam Smith Problem: Reconciling Human Nature and Society in The Theory of Moral Sentiments and Wealth of Nations, I. B.

Re: [Marxism] A Different Environmental Threat: Peak Rare Minerals, China, and Green Technology

I got it Michael, it is on the front page of your web site. - Dogan Göcmen (http://dogangocmen.wordpress.com/) Author of The Adam Smith Problem: Reconciling Human Nature and Society in The Theory of Moral Sentiments and Wealth of Nations, I. B. Tauris, LondonNew York 2007

Re: [Marxism] A Different Environmental Threat: Peak Rare Minerals, China, and Green Technology

At 19:54 05/09/09 -0700, michael perelman wrote: One of the keys to Green Technology may be buried in China. Just responding to the alarmist title of this post Peak Rare Minerals, I don't see that there is a peak anything. When you point out that China produces ... 95 percent of neodymium that

Re: [Marxism] A Different Environmental Threat: Peak Rare Minerals, China, and Green Technology

Jeff, I agree with everything you said except your point about the word, peak. Mathematically, as long as a fixed supply exists, there will necessarily be a peak point in extraction. The debates about peak oil revolve around the question of the size of that fixed supply. You obviously

Re: [Marxism] A Different Environmental Threat: Peak Rare Minerals, China, and Green Technology

At 09:04 06/09/09 -0700, Michael Perelman wrote: Jeff, I agree with everything you said except your point about the word, peak. Mathematically, as long as a fixed supply exists, there will necessarily be a peak point in extraction. Well you've obviously studied the economics of this, but what I

Re: [Marxism] A Different Environmental Threat: Peak Rare Minerals, China, and Green Technology

On Sun, Sep 06, 2009 at 08:39:16PM +0200, Jeff wrote: I think the discussion of such shortages has to do with the short-term price fluctuations that may concern industry and speculators, but the specter of any one country (or even a few countries) having long-term control of one essential

Re: [Marxism] A Different Environmental Threat: Peak Rare Minerals, China, and Green Technology

Agreed. On Sun, Sep 06, 2009 at 12:02:33PM -0700, nada wrote: Don't confuse rare earths elements and compounds with precious metals. One can say that all precious metals are rare earths but not all rare earths are precious metals. Most rare earths are sold by by the lbs/kilo and all

Re: [Marxism] A Different Environmental Threat: Peak Rare Minerals, China, and Green Technology

If Sartesian means that the extraction rates need not conform to the bell curve. I agree, but extraction must reach a peak before the supply is exhausted. -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929 Tel. 530-898-5321 E-Mail michael at

[Marxism] A Different Environmental Threat: Peak Rare Minerals, China, and Green Technology

One of the keys to Green Technology may be buried in China. It has only recently begun to appear in the media, but for very different reasons. A couple of years ago, the New Scientist published a piece about the risks of the scarcity of rare minerals. Cohen, David. 2007. Earth's Natural