Re: [Marxism] Large Hadron Collider: Swindle of the Century?

2009-10-21 Thread Les Schaffer
Mark Lause wrote: > Yeah? Try being a historian of people like Tom Paine in a world with Glen > Beck :-) funny you should mention this, just walked into my fave coffeehouse for a mtg and there on the piano was the latest issue of the Fairfield County Weekly with a background/history on Be

Re: [Marxism] Large Hadron Collider: Swindle of the Century?

2009-10-21 Thread Mark Lause
Yeah? Try being a historian of people like Tom Paine in a world with Glen Beck :-) ML YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.u

Re: [Marxism] Large Hadron Collider: Swindle of the Century?

2009-10-19 Thread Anthony Hartin
Its not such a big point but the timeline presented in an earlier post here about magnet problems at the LHC was not right. The problem in the fermlab triplet which occurred mid 2007 was resolved in a few months. The current problem with the quench in Sep08 that lead to several magnets been mov

Re: [Marxism] Large Hadron Collider: Swindle of the Century?

2009-10-19 Thread Jeff
Hey, thanks for the physics lesson Les! (But I hope we're not tested on it tomorrow ;-) >johnaimani wrote: >> Indeed the forming of interference patterns even when >> electrons are fired one at a time through one of two open slits, an action >> that ought to produce no such interfence(diffr

[Marxism] Large Hadron Collider: Swindle of the Century?

2009-10-19 Thread Les Schaffer
johnaimani wrote: > Hate to appear like a weirdo on this point but there is the phenomenon of > quantum back action. Indeed the forming of interference patterns even when > electrons are fired one at a time through one of two open slits, an action > that ought to produce no such interfence(diff

Re: [Marxism] Large Hadron Collider: Swindle of the Century?

2009-10-17 Thread Mark Lause
I find it hard to see money invested in science to be entirely wasteful. And I think that sending people to the Moon is a great idea. I've been working on a list for the last half century, in fact ML YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when reply

Re: [Marxism] Large Hadron Collider: Swindle of the Century?

2009-10-17 Thread Shane Mage
(thunderbolts .com) Say What? Oct 16, 2009 The Large Hadron Collider has met with a few unforeseen accidents. Could they be a bizarre case of sabotage? Particle physicists began thinking about the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) early in the 1980s. The LHC's predecessor, the Large Electron Posi

Re: [Marxism] Large Hadron Collider: Swindle of the Century?

2009-10-17 Thread Jeff
At 20:25 17/10/09 -0400, jayroth6 wrote: >A fellow activist in Cleveland (http://twitter.com/tovX) forwarded this to me under the title >"For Just This BS $6 bln is Stolen from Workers" The article pointed to in TGdaily is absolute bullshit. Trash. There's certainly no talk about "god" by actual p

Re: [Marxism] Large Hadron Collider: Swindle of the Century?

2009-10-17 Thread Mark Lause
If they work up a scifi series that's good enough, they could probably get it canceled almost immediately. ML YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: h

Re: [Marxism] Large Hadron Collider: Swindle of the Century?

2009-10-17 Thread Greg McDonald
Maybe they're thinking of working up a scifi screenplay? Greg McD YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/m

[Marxism] Large Hadron Collider: Swindle of the Century?

2009-10-17 Thread jayroth6
A fellow activist in Cleveland (http://twitter.com/tovX) forwarded this to me under the title "For Just This BS $6 bln is Stolen from Workers" So these are the "great questions" that funding the LHC with dollars sweated and bled from workers worldwide was supposed to answer? There are people d