Re: M-TH: dialectical materialism

1999-08-06 Thread Jim heartfield
The basic point here is that Engels' celebrated 'three laws' fall short of Hegel's dialectic, corresponding, roughly, to the section of the Science of Logic that precedes the section on The Notion, where Hegel is dealing with the properties of dumb matter. But the dialectic is a process of self-u

Re: M-TH: dialectical materialism

1999-08-05 Thread Andrew Wayne Austin
Indeed, Marx's method is the materialist dialectic. He uses the dialectical method and his approach to the study of history is a materialist one, hence materialist dialectics. The materialist conception of history, or historical materialism, is founded on this notion. But this is not what we are

Re: M-TH: dialectical materialism

1999-08-05 Thread Chris Burford
At 12:24 05/08/99 -0400, >Charles: The last time we discussed this I believe we found that Engels used the phrase "materialist dialectics" in the book _Ludwig Feuerbach_. Certainly "materialist dialectic" "And this materialist dialectic, which for years has been our best working tool and ou

Re: M-TH: dialectical materialism

1999-08-05 Thread Charles Brown
>>> Sam Pawlett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 08/03/99 12:34AM >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Precisely what is the nature of dialectical materialism? I have seen > descriptions of it as a method, theory, doctrine and philosophy. Well, yeah, it depends on who you ask and who you read. Marx himself ne

Re: M-TH: dialectical materialism

1999-08-05 Thread Charles Brown
> > --- from list [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- >>> Chris Burford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 08/04/99 05:45PM >>>Dialectical Materialism >and Modern Science by Kenneth Cameron (International Publishers New York 1995) is an interesting modern attempt to uphold dialectical materialism in a non dogmatic way.

Re: M-TH: dialectical materialism

1999-08-04 Thread Andrew Wayne Austin
The basis for my position is simple. I regard historical materialism as a scientific method. Until Marx, historiography had no objective foundation or scientific method. Marx put the analysis of history on a sound ontological and methodological basis: the materialist conception of history. The

Re: M-TH: dialectical materialism

1999-08-04 Thread Chris Burford
I largely agree with John's explanation. At 16:21 04/08/99 GMT, you wrote: >Jeremy wrote: >> Precisely what is the nature of dialectical materialism? I have seen >> descriptions of it as a method, theory, doctrine and philosophy. > >All of those desciptions are correct. Dialectical materialism

Re: M-TH: dialectical materialism

1999-08-04 Thread Chris Burford
At 11:44 04/08/99 -0400, you wrote: > >Gramsci did not oppose the dialectical method. Gramsci is consistent with >Marx in arguing that historical materialism is scientific historiography. >Gramsci's work is the closest I have found to a continuation of Marx's >project. The Soviet philosopher is th

Re: M-TH: dialectical materialism

1999-08-04 Thread Chris Burford
Jim Heartfield on the excuse of criticising diamat, diverts the question of dialectical materialism into one of historial materialism: >Marx described the core assumptions of *historical* materialism (which, >considering the vulgarisation of dialectical materialism in the hands of >the Soviet

Re: M-TH: dialectical materialism

1999-08-04 Thread Andrew Wayne Austin
Gramsci did not oppose the dialectical method. Gramsci is consistent with Marx in arguing that historical materialism is scientific historiography. Gramsci's work is the closest I have found to a continuation of Marx's project. The Soviet philosopher is the most removed from Marxian premises and

Re: M-TH: dialectical materialism

1999-08-04 Thread J.WALKER, ILL
Jeremy wrote: > Precisely what is the nature of dialectical materialism? I have seen > descriptions of it as a method, theory, doctrine and philosophy. All of those desciptions are correct. Dialectical materialism (diamat as they called it in the USSR) is a philosophy with a theory of the natural

Re: M-TH: dialectical materialism

1999-08-03 Thread Jim heartfield
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes >Precisely what is the nature of dialectical materialism? I have seen >descriptions of it as a method, theory, doctrine and philosophy. Marx described the core assumptions of *historical* materialism (which, considering the vulgarisation of

Re: M-TH: dialectical materialism

1999-08-02 Thread Sam Pawlett
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Precisely what is the nature of dialectical materialism? I have seen > descriptions of it as a method, theory, doctrine and philosophy. Well, yeah, it depends on who you ask and who you read. Marx himself never used the term though Engels I believe did. I take it to

M-TH: dialectical materialism

1999-08-02 Thread automata
Precisely what is the nature of dialectical materialism? I have seen descriptions of it as a method, theory, doctrine and philosophy. Jeremy Yu --- from list [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---