[Marxism-Thaxis] What's wrong with eugenics?

2009-08-28 Thread c b
Alberta Eugenics Board In 1928, the Province of Alberta, Canada, passed legislation that enabled the government to perform involuntary sterilizations on individuals classified as mentally deficient. In order to implement the Sexual Sterilization Act of Alberta in 1928, a four-person Alberta

[Marxism-Thaxis] What's wrong with eugenics?

2009-08-28 Thread c b
Racial hygiene Racial hygiene (often labeled a form of scientific racism) is the selection, by a government, of the putatively most physical, intellectual and moral persons to raise the next generation (selective breeding) and a close alignment of public health with eugenics. Racial hygiene was

[Marxism-Thaxis] What's wrong with eugenics?

2009-08-26 Thread c b
Waistline2 : Shane is a racist CB: In my opinion, based on reading Shane's many posts over the years, his thinking and writing is not racist. ___ Marxism-Thaxis mailing list Marxism-Thaxis@lists.econ.utah.edu To change your options or

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] What's wrong with eugenics?

2009-08-26 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 8/26/2009 9:47:14 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, cb31...@gmail.com writes: Shane is a racist CB: In my opinion, based on reading Shane's many posts over the years, his thinking and writing is not racist. Comment What you call racist I call white chauvinist. What I

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] What's wrong with eugenics?

2009-08-26 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 8/24/2009 10:42:07 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, shm...@pipeline.com writes: nothing worth remembering Shane Mage Comment You asked the question what's wrong with eugenics? . . . not I. You claim that the eugenics movement is a movement for good health and shifted

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] What's wrong with eugenics?

2009-08-26 Thread c b
On 8/26/09, waistli...@aol.com cb31...@gmail.com writes: Shane is a racist CB: In my opinion, based on reading Shane's many posts over the years, his thinking and writing is not racist. Comment What you call racist I call white chauvinist. What I call racist is anyone

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] What's wrong with eugenics?

2009-08-26 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 8/26/2009 12:22:48 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, cb31...@gmail.com writes: CB: Shane's posts are not racist/white chauvinist. Comment Why the subterfuge? I wrote nothing about Shane's post. I responded to the question: What's wrong with eugenics. Why not still to the

[Marxism-Thaxis] What's wrong with eugenics?

2009-08-26 Thread c b
Waistline2 cb31450 at gmail.com writes: CB: Shane's posts are not racist/white chauvinist. Comment Why the subterfuge ? I wrote nothing about Shane's post. I responded to the question: What's wrong with eugenics. Why not still to the point? ^ CB: I'm replying to where you say Shane is

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] What's wrong with eugenics?

2009-08-26 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 8/26/2009 1:23:50 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, cb31...@gmail.com writes: His what's wrong with eugenics ? I took as half joking, not to advocate in favor of the well known historically racist eugenics efforts. Not all historical eugenics theories were based on a

[Marxism-Thaxis] What's wrong with eugenics?

2009-08-26 Thread c b
I of course do not support or advocate for eugenics. Do you? WL. ^ CB: I support genetic engineering that would cure genetically based blindness, cancer, heart disease or other universally recognized diseases. See below CB: I can't say that I subscribe to any old eugenics theories,

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] What's wrong with eugenics?

2009-08-26 Thread Waistline2
I of course do not support or advocate for eugenics. Do you? WL. ^ CB: I can't say that I subscribe to any old eugenics theories, but not all eugenics theories are based on the notion that there are better and lesser races. What is eugenics and the eugenics movement

[Marxism-Thaxis] What's wrong with eugenics?

2009-08-24 Thread c b
The idea of creating better humans presuppose qualifying what is better and according to the founder of the eugenics movement, better is a class and social construct based on economic status and productive worth for capital. Productive worth for capital is called survival of the fittest. Those

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] What's wrong with eugenics?

2009-08-24 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 8/24/2009 1:46:13 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, cb31...@gmail.com writes: CB: On the other hand, there is some truth to the old saying that the rich get richer and the poor get children under capitalism. That is, those who are poor because they have trouble selling their

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] What's wrong with eugenics? (correction)

2009-08-24 Thread Waistline2
Jim F. Shane is a racist operating under the cloak of anti-Stalinism to prevent an unraveling of materialist concept of history and society. Racist are racist precisely because they embrace a concept of races amongst humanity. Correction Jim F. FALLS INTO THE TRAP. Shane is a

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] What's wrong with eugenics?

2009-08-21 Thread farmela...@juno.com
@lists.econ.utah.edu Subject: Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] What's wrong with eugenics? Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 23:43:18 EDT In a message dated 8/20/2009 6:36:34 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, shm...@pipeline.com writes: Are you confused by the capitalization-to-start-sentences style rule I (unfortunately) adhered

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] What's wrong with eugenics?

2009-08-21 Thread Shane Mage
On Aug 20, 2009, at 11:43 PM, waistli...@aol.com wrote: As I understand things in my confusion, what is meant is the striving for good health through the selection of positive - (life affirming hereditary traits that strengthen the human organism and increases longevity) more

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] What's wrong with eugenics? (a long reply . . .sorry)

2009-08-21 Thread Waistline2
We have developed beyond mere natural eugenics. Genetic science already allows screening of any fetus for serious hereditary defects (remember how Palin trumpeted her disgenic choice to carry a defective fetus to term?) and women can and (most) do act eugenically to abort those fetuses. *In

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] What's wrong with eugenics?

2009-08-21 Thread Waistline2
Comment Trotsky’s letter is 75 years old. In my way of thinking 75 years is two generation. Here is the problem for me. I cannot conceive and think things out from the standpoint of a person Trotsky’s age in 1934. I reread the letter in its entirety. Moreover, everything in it seems

[Marxism-Thaxis] What's wrong with eugenics?

2009-08-20 Thread Waistline2
What's wrong with eugenics? Is anyone in favor of disgenics? Shane Mage Comment What is wrong with eugenics is its social origin, individual origin, purpose, practice and the ideological conceptions of its adherents. Eugenics is not a science of metabolic process but an ideology

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] What's wrong with eugenics?

2009-08-20 Thread Shane Mage
On Aug 20, 2009, at 1:11 PM, waistli...@aol.com wrote: What's wrong with eugenics? Is anyone in favor of disgenics? Eugenics is not a science of metabolic process but an ideology of fascism. Eugenics means good heredity. Disgenics means bad heredity. No ideology here. All parents desire

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] What's wrong with eugenics?

2009-08-20 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 8/20/2009 2:18:33 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, shm...@pipeline.com writes: Eugenics means good heredity. Disgenics means bad heredity. No ideology here. All parents desire healthy, bright, strong, beautiful, talented children, and want those characteristics to be

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] What's wrong with eugenics?

2009-08-20 Thread Shane Mage
On Aug 20, 2009, at 5:25 PM, waistli...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 8/20/2009 2:18:33 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, shm...@pipeline.com writes: Eugenics means good heredity. Disgenics means bad heredity. No ideology here. All parents desire healthy, bright, strong, beautiful,

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] What's wrong with eugenics?

2009-08-20 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 8/20/2009 6:36:34 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, shm...@pipeline.com writes: Are you confused by the capitalization-to-start-sentences style rule I (unfortunately) adhered to? eugenics (nonrestrictive noun) is not Eugenics (restrictive noun). The former's meaning is