CeJ jannuzi
CB:Just a general observation on Obama and the Obama administration
doing things: Notice that a President has to get Congress to pass
stuff to do any major move, and that there are enough rightwing Dems
to thwart any major progressive moves. I know the left Obama
skeptics/haters love to ignore this in order to blame Obama for
betraying/failing the left and say I told you so , but...
You mean like start WW III? No, actually he doesn't need Congress to do that.
He needs Congress for an official declaration of war, I think. But de facto war,
all it takes is a prez who embraces the imperium, and this one clearly has.
You mean like send 30,000 more troops to Afghanistan? No, he doesn't
need Congressional approval for that either. He needs to go to Congress
periodically to get the required funding, whether regular, supplementary
or covert budgets.
^^^
CB: I'm thinking of the moves that require Congressional approval (
Declaration of war is supposed to be by Congress, but the US is in a
state of unconstitutional scofflaw on that issue)
Yeah boo to Obama on 30,000 troops to Afghanistan ! Protest
demonstration this Wednesday at the Federal building.
Clearly embraced the imperium. More like cloudily siddled up to it.
Hurrah on beginning the end of the war on Iraq, even if it's not good
enough for CJ. It's a pass grade for Obama.
Hurrah on stopping Star Wars ,a step away from WW III
^^^
What major piece of legislation has Obama gone to Congress with anyway?
The Health Care bill(s) where he made statements that basically undercut
any stance for universal coverage even before the process began?
^^
CB: Yeah , Health Care was the main example of Congress right wing
Dems preventing better bills.
Basically undercutting is in the same class as clearly embraced -
putting things in a not quite accurate bad light.
More stimulus is thwarted by Congress. The Congressional health care
struggle seems to have moved employee free choice act to next year.
Bailing out GM and Chrysler might have had better provisions for
workers without rightwing members of Congress thwarting.
^
You mean close Gitmo? Well, he could order it closed and tell Gates to take
money from the defense budgetS to get it done. He doesn't need Congress to
close it. He could turn over all the detainees to the Hague, but the
Amurkins wouldn't
like them turning loose almost all of them for lack of evidence and
lack of official
charges. And Obama needs the Amurkins on his side.
^^^
CB: And like Executive Order permitting stem cell research, as
important as closing Gitmo.
Congress did passed the pay equity law. I don't know that O introduced
it. Bush or McCain wouldn't have signed it.
^
Hey Amurkins, don't leave all that good work undone--SUPPORT OBAMA FOR
PRESIDENT IN 2012!
CJ
^^^
CB: Definitely support Obama in 2012 !
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