Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Not everybody is on same page

2010-02-24 Thread CeJ
 The point trying to be made in the same page article by Sam Webb is how
 to fight things out in real time and why it is impossible to fight on the
 level  of fighting a system. Condemning Obama and the Obama administration is
 an act of  futility and nothing more than sectarianism in the context of
 actually trying to  organize small groups of people to express their struggle
 for survival.

No, I don't think so. We who stand outside the Democratic Party
condemn Obama's warpigism and nonchalance on vital social issues, like
health care for all, because we hope it will prod all those people in
the Democratic Party to fight in their party to get him to stop his
warpigism and to do something about the festering sore that is no
health care for tens of millions of Americans. It might be futile but
it isn't sectarianism. Indeed, the previous arguments were about
choosing Obama over Kucinich or Gravel because the O-man was
'electable'--so was Gore, so was Kerry. At least they were right this
time--O was electable. Now the question is: is he movable?

Are you sure it isn't something you smoked? I see nothing glorious
about these times.

We have to remember that the parties are not really mass membership
parties in a parliamentary system. So the question for the future is
still how do we create alternative realities to this miserable warpig
two-party system? If there is an ideological component it is in
shattering this delusion that working class America has about its
religion being the nation and its transcendance being to serve its
warpigism.


CJ

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Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Not everybody is on same page

2010-02-23 Thread Waistline2


In a message dated 2/22/2010 12:48:30  P.M. Pacific Standard Time, 
cb31...@gmail.com writes:  

Not everybody is on same page by: Sam Webb February 18 2010 tags:  
communists, strategy and tactics 

Let me begin with the obvious:  the left (organized and unorganized) has 
seldom been of one mind. Differences  over aims, strategy, tactics, 
programmatic demands, forms of struggle, etc. have  been commonplace. 

This moment is no different. In fact, I would  argue that two distinct and 
competing trends have taken shape in the course of  the first year of the 
Obama presidency. 

Comment

Same  page? Actually, a tiny segment of sectarian Marxist writers -  
perhaps  numbering two - three hundred virtual personalities, are not only on a 
different  page but in an entirely different book.

The issue is not so much  ones attitude towards the Obama administration, 
but ones conception of reality.  Where one might charge Webb with “to much 
reality” and/or an incorrect view of  actual political relations between 
Democrats and Republicans and their  relationship with the voters, the 
sectarian 
Marxists are well, sectarian and  trapped in the reproduction of their own 
sectarianism. Since the founding of the  American communist movement, it has 
been proven to be impossible to fight the  quality called the bourgeois mode 
of commodity production or capitalism, or “the  two party system,” or the 
administration. It doesn't mater what the  administration. 

The communist movement grew during periods of  social upheaval, fighting on 
the basis of real issues dear to the hearts and  minds of the proletarian 
masses. This was most certainly true during the period  of the fight for 
unions; then industrial trade unions and the great struggles  for Civil Rights, 
defining the last period of social upheaval. One cannot fight  within a 
social system on the level of the system’s existence. The social system  is a 
quality. The quality is capitalism. The political quality is the government  
and its ruling party's. Opposing Obama as a bourgeois representative means 
next  to nothing. 

If one cannot fight the quality defined as capitalism,  then common sense 
demands that one must fight and deal on the quantitative  level, with 
specific stages of development and locating what is unique and  important to 
the 
actual phase of the social process one is living. It is useless  to charge 
anyone associated with Marxism for failing to recognize that the  American 
state and government is an instrument of the capitalist class, serves  
bourgeois 
property, and Obama is simultaneously the head of state and government  as 
president. 

One has to fight on a quantitative level. Not  because I say so, but 
because there is no “other game in town,” except the  various fronts of 
struggle 
for survival taking place. The unique skills of  communists as organizers 
are need at every front of struggle. For instance, in  Detroit a struggle is 
brewing involving auto workers and retired autoworkers  with the state and 
government, because General Motors and Chrysler are more than  less owned by 
the government. This quantitative level means a struggle over full  
nationalization of auto is on the agenda. Not as a cure all but as a form of  
immediate combat where a section of proletarians can discover how to fight for  
their interest as a class. We can introduce this issue not because it sound  
clever, but because two of the companies are partially nationalized already.  
This means new ideas can be injected into society attached to a living 
social  process. 

Not because I say so but because the government owns  Chrysler and General 
Motors rather than individual employers. Ford is not on the  governments 
dime so a somewhat different form of struggle is unfolding there,  with a 
massive rejection of the contract last year. The Chrysler and General  Motors 
workers have no contract fight they can reject as such. That is to say,  the 
fight is with the government. 

This is an entirely new and  different game.  

Another such struggle is brewing over  national health care. On the 
quantitative level this means these same workers in  Detroit, retired workers 
at 
General Motors and Chrysler, recently had their  health care package 
restructured and detached from the company. A VEBA has been  established that 
as it 
exist is set to run out of money in as little as 36  months. VEBA went into 
effect January 1, 2010 and out of pocket payments has  risen at a monthly 
rate of roughly 30% for the past two months. When VEBA was  sold to the 
autoworkers its was stated the fund would last roughly 80 years with  an annual 
rate increase of no more than 3%. Health care arises as a material  issue in a 
context where the government owns Chrysler and General Motors. The  struggle 
of these workers for health care is with the government rather than an  
employer such as is the case with Ford. Unable to get anything from their  
previous 

[Marxism-Thaxis] Not everybody is on same page

2010-02-22 Thread c b
http://peoplesworld.org/not-everybody-is-on-same-page/

Not everybody is on same page
by: Sam Webb
February 18 2010
tags: communists, strategy and tactics

Let me begin with the obvious: the left (organized and unorganized)
has seldom been of one mind. Differences over aims, strategy, tactics,
programmatic demands, forms of struggle, etc. have been commonplace.

This moment is no different. In fact, I would argue that two distinct
and competing trends have taken shape in the course of the first year
of the Obama presidency.

One trend stakes out a left position on every issue, resists
compromise, believes that the Democratic Party has no
democratic/reform potential, pays little attention to right-wing
extremism in its strategic and tactical thinking, and reduces
President Obama to nothing but a puppet of Wall Street.

This trend turns criticism of the Obama administration into a measure
of one's militancy. The sharper the tone the more legitimate one's
left credentials. The main, if not the only, thing holding up
far-reaching political and economic reforms, in the eyes of this
trend, is the president. Somehow, in this rendition of the political
moment, the interaction and struggle between (and within) competing
political coalitions/blocs composed of various class and social
groupings has no or minimal bearing on the process of change since the
2008 elections. In short, the class struggle in all its complexity is
both simplified and invisible.

This same trend damns with faint praise the new currents, thinking
and initiatives in labor and people's organizations, while it narrowly
defines political independence as only electoral formations outside
the two-party system. It acts as if militant minorities and moral
outrage can reshape the political landscape alone, forgetting that
popular majorities in the end make history.

Finally, this trend places an outsize accent on left initiative and
unity, but detached from broader forms of unity and struggle.

The other trend on the left argues that the 2008 elections reset the
political terrain to the advantage of working people and their allies.

While the Obama administration is not above criticism, this trend
believes that criticism should be constructive and unifying, not a
test of one's radicalism.

The main role of the left, according to this trend, isn't simply
agitational - talking points, sound bites and militant slogans.
Political agitation has an important place in class and democratic
struggles, but only to the degree that the left is involved in
day-to-day struggles in a sustained, practical and non-sectarian way.

In 2008, a broad people's movement was instrumental in electing Obama
and a Democratic majority in Congress. Since then, however, it hasn't
reached the same level and scale of activity. Without reassembling
this coalition, progress will be largely unrealized.

This trend embraces left demands, but it embraces broader demands as
well that masses of people are ready to fight for. It doesn't
counterpose one against the other. Instead, it sees broader mass
demands as a highway that has to be traveled to win more progressive
and radical changes.

In a similar vein, compromise isn't a dirty word in this view.
Instead, whether and when one makes compromises depends on a very
sober estimate of the balance of class and social forces.

This trend understands as well that its task is not only to unite a
broad multi-class coalition in the current phase of struggle, but also
to assist the working class and its core allies to impress their
unmistakable stamp on the struggle for reforms.

Unlike the other trend that shoehorns Obama into a tightly sealed
political shell with little or no political potential, this trend
believes he has a role, a potentially major one, to play at this
juncture of the class struggle.

By the same token, it strongly rejects the notion that the task of the
left is to reconfigure the struggle into a contest of the people's
movement against President Obama.

This trend supports left unity, but insists that practical involvement
with broader movements and coalitions and some rough agreement on
strategic orientation among left groups are a necessary condition for
such unity.

Finally, an independent, labor-based people's party is a strategic
necessity in the view of this trend, but it doesn't see such a
formation on the short horizon. In the meantime, it supports struggles
for political independence (which take many forms) both within and
outside of the Democratic Party.

No individual, organization or social movement on the left fits neatly
into one or the other trend outlined above. Life is always more
complicated than broad generalizations. Nevertheless, these two trends
are taking more definitive form and the future of the left and its
place in U.S. politics, in my opinion, hinges on which trend becomes
dominant. I think it is obvious where I stand.

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