But Engels upheld the main thesis. Only some programmatic particulars were out of
date, not the main thesis of historical materialism, dictatorship of the proletariat,
struggle up to and including barricades and revolutionary war.
CB
>>> "The World Socialist movement (via The Socialist Party o
Ian you wrote that:
> the official verdict of the CCP that Stalin was 70% correct
> and 30% wrong is far too kind.>There is a good evaluation of
> internal CPSU evidence in *New Left Review*
The official verdict or the evaluation of the CPSU evidence is hardly
an arbiter of any view on the subjec
>>> "The World Socialist movement (via The Socialist Party of Great
Marx disavowed this 1848 solution a couple of decades later:
already he considered the barricade/ dictatorship of the proletariat route
to be past its sell by date in europe.
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Charles: What is your evidence of thi
Can anyone supply the original ref or URL for this article?
Russell
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John,
You wrote:
>
>Were we reading the same article as mine was littered with
>vilifications of Stalin and the Bolshevik revolution. You talk of
>some on the left of turning Marxism into a secular religion well the
>charge could be made that others have turned it into a secular
>witch-hunt.
>
>Wh
Ian,
You wrote praised Meszaros' article for
> We can do without worship (or vilification) of
> Marx, Engels, Lenin, Trotsky, Stalin, Mao, etc.
Were we reading the same article as mine was littered with
vilifications of Stalin and the Bolshevik revolution. You talk of
some on the left of tur
>Dear Rob,
>
>> Where I am with Simon is the sensibility that we're not at the planning
>> stage until lots'n'lots of people are engaged. And then they'll be part
>of
>> the planning, too, eh? I've never worn that 'saviours waving the
>programme
>> at the masses' stuff. Don't reckon it gets you
I enjoyed and appreciated the Meszaros article very much (as I seem to
whenever he puts pen to paper). Thanks to Jim for the post.
Writes John:
>It was not political control that was at the heart of Communism but
>the control of the means of poduction, short and simple. Communism is
>effectivel
The past is valuable regardless of allegiances. Mistakes are valuable if we
learn from them. What I was referring to is some of the more totemistic,
charismatic styles of thinking and writing that socialist movements have
been plagued with, which Meszaros' article is blissfully free of.
Trotskyist
Ian H writes:
>I do not have the time to say too much, but would like to say that I also
>found Meszaros' article a really good read, and would like people to take
>up the challenge to articulate a clear vision and strategy for socialism
>unemcumbered with the baggage of our political past
I'd
James,
Thanks for the article, well it managed to work me up and I haven't
finished it yet!!!
One point about your brief reply, which may just be me being over
picky is where you say:
> What we need to do now is to formulate the vision that Meszaros describes in
> simple, attractive and concr
I do not have the time to say too much, but would like to say that I also
found Meszaros' article a really good read, and would like people to take
up the challenge to articulate a clear vision and strategy for socialism
unemcumbered with the baggage of our political past
>I am copying my respo
I am copying my response to the Meszaros article on the Socialist Register
list.
--Jim Lawler
I have just read Istvan Meszaros' very thoughtful piece on communism. I
agree with him that we are headed downhill, spiraling into catastrophe.
What does that mean? It means great economic disruption
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