Re: M-TH: Re:LOV, butterflies and babies

1999-11-30 Thread J.WALKER
Hello Simon, When you write: that imperialism is (arguably) the current international capitalist relationship does not mean that our definition of capitalism is somehow inadequate What is the relationship between the two part of the sentance as they do not seem to logicall follow. Surely a

Re: M-TH: Re:LOV, butterflies and babies

1999-11-26 Thread J.WALKER
Simon, I was fascinated to read your comment: Please, not imperialism. Capitalism. Well, I had no idea that there were socialists of any sort who actually opposed the word Imperialism entirely. It is hardly a Leninist term as the the nice Mr. Hobson was a staunch Liberal. Unless you are

M-TH: Re:LOV, butterflies and babies

1999-11-24 Thread Hugh Rodwell
Simon writes, poetically: Our job is not to pull the baby out of the womb. We are the baby, to use the metaphor, being born. Or rather, we are a butterfly in the making, reconstituting from a caterpillar via the pupae phase (the political understanding, i.e. the form) to bursting from the

Re: M-TH: Re:LOV, butterflies and babies

1999-11-24 Thread Hugh Rodwell
In his reply to me Simon just gives us more of the same. But he adds: And on value, well, we've been over this. You are talking about suspending the PRICE mechanism. No, Dave's right here, there's no capitalist price without value, as Marx makes perfectly clear in the Grundrisse, the