Re: [Marxism] ARE WE ON THE BRINK OF A RENEWED WAVE OF RADICALISATION WITHIN BRITAIN UNDER THE SURFACE OF INCREASING REACTION?

2019-12-31 Thread Dayne Goodwin via Marxism
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On Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at 7:55 AM Mark Lause via Marxism <
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>   . . .
> Electoral politics will open only after we get and sustain those mass
> mobilizations.   I'm hopeful, because there's plenty of sentiment for
> radical change.  However, there's no strategic understanding of independent
> movements and virtually zero understanding of how to go about the work of
> building them.
>

Right on, Mark.
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Re: [Marxism] ARE WE ON THE BRINK OF A RENEWED WAVE OF RADICALISATION WITHIN BRITAIN UNDER THE SURFACE OF INCREASING REACTION?

2019-12-31 Thread Mark Lause via Marxism
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The popularity of Sanders created great opportunities for the Left in the
U.S., which it flubbed up and still flubs up.  The chance that the
Democrats would permit him (or likely Warren) to get the nomination is less
than the prospect of Yellowstone erupting.

Should he (or any "progressive") get the nomination, we have absolutely no
reason to imagine that the Democratic hierarchy will do anything other than
McGovern them . . . that is, it would extend no more than the most minimal
support, and then use the defeat as an excuse for moving ever more
Biden-ward next time.

And if, by some stretch of the imagination, we were to find ourselves with
a President Sanders in 2021, he will face a Congress divided between a
Trumpified GOP and an essentially Nixonized-Reaganized Democratic caucus.
And we have no reason to think that Sanders would embrace a strategy of
mass mobilizations.

Electoral politics will open only after we get and sustain those mass
mobilizations.   I'm hopeful, because there's plenty of sentiment for
radical change.  However, there's no strategic understanding of independent
movements and virtually zero understanding of how to go about the work of
building them.

Cheers,
Mark L.
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Re: [Marxism] ARE WE ON THE BRINK OF A RENEWED WAVE OF RADICALISATION WITHIN BRITAIN UNDER THE SURFACE OF INCREASING REACTION?

2019-12-30 Thread Gary MacLennan via Marxism
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Bless Anthony. Reading him is like stepping into into the Tardus and
whipping off to a vanished era. We are always trembling on the brink of a
revolutionary break through.

If only.

Still who knows. I have noticed that I am slowly transferring my hopes to
Sanders in the USA. I can see the frown on Comrade Proyect's face.

I honestly have no illusions in Sanders or any Democrat. Honestly none. But
the very thought of Trump makes me sick. Only a tad sicker than the thought
of President Biden I hasten to add.

But I am desperate for some hope - any hope.

Happy new year to all comrades on the list.

comradely

Gary



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