Re: [Marxism] France: Defend the “Yellow Vests” Movement against State Repression!

2018-12-04 Thread RKOB via Marxism

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I was irritated by your suggestion that this is a kind of fascist 
movement. It is irritating because it is the typical reaction of 
academic leftists with little connection to the popular masses (with all 
their contradictions in consciouness).


You ask: "where is the class struggle in the "yellow vest" movement?"

Well, it is a) the classes involved (workers and poor middle class 
against the government of the bourgeoisie), b) it is the subject 
(protest against austerity attacks) and c) the struggle is pretty obvious.


Are there reactionary forces involved? As we say in the resolution, yes. 
Is this a reason to turn away from the movement? No! It is a reason to 
fight these forces INSIDE the movement.



Am 04.12.2018 um 09:11 schrieb Michael Meeropol:
totally agree --- I actually did read something about the 
demonstrators but recognize that one journalistic account does not a 
full interpretation make --- (and that goes for a single solidarity 
statement)


:Before you start commenting in a wild way

What was "wild" about the question I posed below?

Michael Meeropol:> where is the class struggle in the "yellow vest" 
movement ?-- > Mussolini and Peron came to power with the support of 
shock troops > from the "downtrodden" --->> Is there a real potential 
left in this movement or is it ripe to be > the shock troops for Le 
Pen?--


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Re: [Marxism] France: Defend the “Yellow Vests” Movement against State Repression!

2018-12-04 Thread Michael Meeropol via Marxism
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totally agree --- I actually did read something about the demonstrators but
recognize that one journalistic account does not a full interpretation make
--- (and that goes for a single solidarity statement)

:Before you start commenting in a wild way

What was "wild" about the question I posed below?

Michael Meeropol:> where is the class struggle in the "yellow vest"
movement ?-- > Mussolini and Peron came to power with the support of shock
troops > from the "downtrodden" --->> Is there a real potential left in
this movement or is it ripe to be > the shock troops for Le Pen?--
 

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Re: [Marxism] France: Defend the “Yellow Vests” Movement against State Repression!

2018-12-03 Thread RKOB via Marxism

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Before you start commenting in a wild way I suggest that

a) you read the statement you are commenting on and

b) read some historical material about the movements of Mussolini and 
Peron in order to understand the similarities but also the differences 
between them.


Am 04.12.2018 um 07:19 schrieb Michael Meeropol:
where is the class struggle in the "yellow vest" movement ?-- 
Mussolini and Peron came to power with the support of shock troops 
from the "downtrodden" ---


Is there a real potential left in this movement or is it ripe to be 
the shock troops for Le Pen?


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Re: [Marxism] France: Defend the “Yellow Vests” Movement against State Repression!

2018-12-03 Thread Michael Meeropol via Marxism
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where is the class struggle in the "yellow vest" movement ?-- Mussolini and
Peron came to power with the support of shock troops from the "downtrodden"
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Is there a real potential left in this movement or is it ripe to be the
shock troops for Le Pen? 


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