Re: [Marxism] Green Party's apologetics for Assad

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Doug has a new book? (I looked on amazon and don't see it)

On Thu, Dec 10, 2015 at 10:09 AM, Louis Proyect  wrote:

> On 12/10/15 9:46 AM, Andrew Pollack via Marxism wrote:
>
>> Love those comrades (ISO), but damned if I'll support a campist
>> middle-class party (Greens).
>>
>
> Why not? If I was in Britain, I'd support Corbyn. If I was in Venezuela, I
> would have voted for Maduro even if his position on Syria was ten times
> worse than Jill Stein's. There are multiple contradictions involved with
> the left right now and we can't make Syria a litmus test.
>
> Speaking of which, I just posted this to FB:
>
> The intense phobia, which is easy to understand, over Trump in particular
> and all the other Republican candidates as well, has the objective effect
> of strengthening the "lesser evil" logic that is already kicking in around
> the reaction against Doug Henwood's book and any other criticisms of
> Hillary Clinton. By the time that Sanders is eliminated, the pressure to
> vote for Clinton will reach a crescendo with Sanders himself beating the
> drum like a major in a Rose Bowl parade. It means marginalizing the Green
> Party and deepening the ties between the left and the Democratic Party.
> While it is tough for the left to acknowledge, Trump, Cruz, Carson et al
> are symptoms of capitalist crisis. With the Koch brothers funding every
> anti-working class initiative across the country, the Democratic Party will
> function as aspirin for someone suffering from a brain tumor.
>
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Re: [Marxism] Green Party's apologetics for Assad

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On 12/10/15 9:46 AM, Andrew Pollack via Marxism wrote:

Love those comrades (ISO), but damned if I'll support a campist
middle-class party (Greens).


Why not? If I was in Britain, I'd support Corbyn. If I was in Venezuela, 
I would have voted for Maduro even if his position on Syria was ten 
times worse than Jill Stein's. There are multiple contradictions 
involved with the left right now and we can't make Syria a litmus test.


Speaking of which, I just posted this to FB:

The intense phobia, which is easy to understand, over Trump in 
particular and all the other Republican candidates as well, has the 
objective effect of strengthening the "lesser evil" logic that is 
already kicking in around the reaction against Doug Henwood's book and 
any other criticisms of Hillary Clinton. By the time that Sanders is 
eliminated, the pressure to vote for Clinton will reach a crescendo with 
Sanders himself beating the drum like a major in a Rose Bowl parade. It 
means marginalizing the Green Party and deepening the ties between the 
left and the Democratic Party. While it is tough for the left to 
acknowledge, Trump, Cruz, Carson et al are symptoms of capitalist 
crisis. With the Koch brothers funding every anti-working class 
initiative across the country, the Democratic Party will function as 
aspirin for someone suffering from a brain tumor.

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Re: [Marxism] Green Party's apologetics for Assad

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On 12/10/15 10:16 AM, Andrew Pollack wrote:

Doug has a new book? (I looked on amazon and don't see it)



http://www.orbooks.com/catalog/my-turn-by-doug-henwood/
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Re: [Marxism] Green Party's apologetics for Assad

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Thanks, will order ASAP
And Louis is right about litmus tests for critical support/endorsement - as
long as we are public about the critical part.

On Thu, Dec 10, 2015 at 10:19 AM, Louis Proyect  wrote:

> On 12/10/15 10:16 AM, Andrew Pollack wrote:
>
>> Doug has a new book? (I looked on amazon and don't see it)
>>
>>
> http://www.orbooks.com/catalog/my-turn-by-doug-henwood/
>
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