Re: [Marxism] Robert Reich on a new third party

2016-07-21 Thread A.R. G via Marxism
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Don't we already have another party, i.e. the Greens? What is he talking
about?

- Amith

On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 6:25 PM, Thomas via Marxism <
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> -Original Message-
> >From: Louis Proyect via Marxism 
> >Sent: Jul 21, 2016 12:16 PM
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> >Subject: [Marxism] Robert Reich on a new third party
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> >This was from a Nation Magazine symposium on the post-Sanders conjuncture.
> >
> >ROBERT B. REICH
> >A Third Party vs. Big Money
> >
> >The next move for Bernie Sanders’s political revolution is to set up a
> >third party (shall we call it the New Progressive Party?), whose primary
> >goal should be to get big money out of politics.
>
> The New Progressive Party should begin right after the November election
> (we mustn’t do anything in the interim that increases the odds of a Trump
> takeover of America), with Bernie as its
> chairman and his e-mail list of supporters as its core.
>
> Robert B. Reich, a former secretary of labor in the Clinton
> >administration, is a professor of public policy at the University of
> >California, Berkeley
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Re: [Marxism] Robert Reich on a new third party

2016-07-21 Thread Thomas via Marxism
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No Billy, we can't buy you a new tricycle right now.  If we do, we won't have 
the money to pay our rent to that mean old landlord, and we'll be living in 
cardboard boxes out on the street.

But if you're a good boy now, you will get what you want for Christmas.

Bobby Reich 
via Thomas B


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>Sent: Jul 21, 2016 12:16 PM
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>Subject: [Marxism] Robert Reich on a new third party

>This was from a Nation Magazine symposium on the post-Sanders conjuncture.
>
>ROBERT B. REICH
>A Third Party vs. Big Money
>
>The next move for Bernie Sanders’s political revolution is to set up a 
>third party (shall we call it the New Progressive Party?), whose primary 
>goal should be to get big money out of politics. 

The New Progressive Party should begin right after the November election (we 
mustn’t do anything in the interim that increases the odds of a Trump takeover 
of America), with Bernie as its 
chairman and his e-mail list of supporters as its core.

Robert B. Reich, a former secretary of labor in the Clinton 
>administration, is a professor of public policy at the University of 
>California, Berkeley


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Re: [Marxism] Robert Reich on a new third party

2016-07-21 Thread Dennis Brasky via Marxism
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Or it's just talking left to hustle up votes for $hillary. Hold him to it
but don't spare the scepticism!

On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 2:09 PM, Louis Proyect via Marxism <
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> That's true but this call is far bolder than anything that will ever come
> out of Sanders's mouth.
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> On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 2:19 PM, Mark Lause via Marxism <
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>> Yes, It legitimates the idea of getting out of the two-party
>> strait-jacket.
>>
>> . . . .and it's just another case of where a Democratic party functionary
>> lands somewhere way the devil to the left of the official labor movement.
>>
>> ML
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Re: [Marxism] Robert Reich on a new third party

2016-07-21 Thread Mark Lause via Marxism
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Yes, It legitimates the idea of getting out of the two-party strait-jacket.

. . . .and it's just another case of where a Democratic party functionary
lands somewhere way the devil to the left of the official labor movement.

ML
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Re: [Marxism] Robert Reich on a new third party

2016-07-21 Thread Louis Proyect via Marxism

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That's true but this call is far bolder than anything that will ever 
come out of Sanders's mouth.


On 7/21/16 1:44 PM, Dennis Brasky wrote:

Reich is a Democratic Party hack who was silent about neoliberal
corporate policies and Big $$ domination of US politics when he served
loyally in the Bill Clinton Administration. His proposal to begin work
on this "new party" AFTER the November election so as not to help the
"greater evil" Trump tells us all we need to know about this fraudster.

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Re: [Marxism] Robert Reich on a new third party

2016-07-21 Thread Dennis Brasky via Marxism
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Reich is a Democratic Party hack who was silent about neoliberal corporate
policies and Big $$ domination of US politics when he served loyally in the
Bill Clinton Administration. His proposal to begin work on this "new party"
AFTER the November election so as not to help the "greater evil" Trump
tells us all we need to know about this fraudster.

On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 12:16 PM, Louis Proyect via Marxism <
marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu> wrote:

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>
> ROBERT B. REICH
> A Third Party vs. Big Money
>
> The next move for Bernie Sanders’s political revolution is to set up a
> third party (shall we call it the New Progressive Party?), whose primary
> goal should be to get big money out of politics. Nothing else worth doing
> is possible unless we reclaim our democracy, and we can’t do that through
> our current Democratic or Republican parties, both of which are beholden to
> big money. The New Progressive Party should begin right after the November
> election (we mustn’t do anything in the interim that increases the odds of
> a Trump takeover of America), with Bernie as its chairman and his e-mail
> list of supporters as its core.
>
> Unlike the spin-off organizations from past progressive candidacies, such
> as Howard Dean’s Democracy for America, the New Progressive Party would be
> explicitly political, recruiting and fielding candidates in the 2018
> midterm elections for the Senate and House—as well as the presidency in
> 2020—who are committed to reforming our democracy. Rather than relying on
> fund-raising efforts at election time, the party would be funded by
> dues-paying members (say $1 to $5 a month, depending on your income) who
> are actively involved in establishing and participating in local and state
> chapters. New Progressives would be the lifeblood of the next generation of
> politics, carrying on Bernie’s political revolution by creating a new and
> vibrant center of countervailing power in America.
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Re: [Marxism] Robert Reich on a new third party

2016-07-21 Thread Steven L. Robinson via Marxism
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Sounds like Reich is channeling Lawrence Lessig,  who campaigned on that 
platform in the Democrat primaries and got zero traction.

- Original Message -From: Louis Proyect 

ROBERT B. REICHA Third Party vs. Big Money

The next move for Bernie Sanderss political revolution is to set up a 
third party (shall we call it the New Progressive Party?), whose primary goal 
should be to get big money out of politics. Nothing else worth doing is 
possible unless we reclaim our democracy, and we cant do that through 
our current Democratic or Republican parties, both of which are beholden to big 
money. 
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