Re: [Marxism] What some hospital workers are saying
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * As far as UHW-W is concerned, what you have described is in large part attributable to the after effects of the takeover of that local union by the national SEIU leadership almost ten years ago now. Before that time, there was a rather strong steward network - especially at Kaiser but in other hospitals as well. Those stewards had a pretty good practice of keeping their members informed and activated. The takeover swept away much of that network, although I know that a handful remain in various places and are still doing their best, notwithstanding problems with the local union's problematic leadership. The national leadership wanted to replace the stewards with call in centers. I wonder if that has been implemented. Still, what you describe is troubling given that healthcare is supposed to be one of the strongest sectors of the labor movement right now. SR > On March 18, 2020 at 4:37 PM John Reimann via Marxism > wrote: > > No, these were workers at Summit Hospital. I think United Healthcare > Workers - part of SEIU - although I've heard similar complaints about UPTE, > as I have about ALL the unions ( _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: https://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] What some hospital workers are saying
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * No, these were workers at Summit Hospital. I think United Healthcare Workers - part of SEIU - although I've heard similar complaints about UPTE, as I have about ALL the unions (including my former one). On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 3:49 PM Jeffrey Masko wrote: > Would that have been UPTE folks by chance? > > On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 2:51 PM John Reimann via Marxism < > marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu> wrote: > >> POSTING RULES & NOTES >> #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. >> #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. >> #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. >> * >> >> I just got back from getting a chest x-ray (for something totally >> unrelated >> to the coronavirus). All the workers there are in the union. I got to >> asking several of them how things are going, what's up with the union, >> etc. >> They had not seen hide nor hair of any union rep. They didn't seem to >> think >> the x-ray office would be closed, but if it is, they have no idea if they >> will continue to be paid. They all commented on the $1000 they heard they >> will be getting, as if it is in the bag, and as if it will save their >> bacon >> if they are laid off. I got the impression that they're seeing this bundle >> of cash like an extra payday, period. I asked how far they think $1000 >> will >> go in paying the rent of house note, and they all were silent. I pointed >> out the billions that Trump is planning to give the big corporations, and >> they had nothing to say about that. >> >> In the end, I was talking with the x-ray tech about all this. His final >> words were, "well, they (the employers) sign our pay check." "Yeah, and we >> do the work," was my reply. He kind of chuckled and muttered "that's >> true", >> but it was clear he'd never looked at it like that before. >> >> In general, the union is the furthest thing from their mind, exactly >> because of the absence of the union for many years. >> >> >> John Reimann >> >> -- >> *“In politics, abstract terms conceal treachery.” *from "The Black >> Jacobins" by C. L. R. James >> Check out:https:http://oaklandsocialist.com also on Facebook >> _ >> Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm >> Set your options at: >> https://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/mediacrusher%40gmail.com >> > > > -- > > J.A. Masko > > "The challenge of modernity is to live without illusions and without > becoming disillusioned." > >Antonio Gramsci. > -- *“In politics, abstract terms conceal treachery.” *from "The Black Jacobins" by C. L. R. James Check out:https:http://oaklandsocialist.com also on Facebook _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: https://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] What some hospital workers are saying
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * Would that have been UPTE folks by chance? On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 2:51 PM John Reimann via Marxism < marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu> wrote: > POSTING RULES & NOTES > #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. > #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. > #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. > * > > I just got back from getting a chest x-ray (for something totally unrelated > to the coronavirus). All the workers there are in the union. I got to > asking several of them how things are going, what's up with the union, etc. > They had not seen hide nor hair of any union rep. They didn't seem to think > the x-ray office would be closed, but if it is, they have no idea if they > will continue to be paid. They all commented on the $1000 they heard they > will be getting, as if it is in the bag, and as if it will save their bacon > if they are laid off. I got the impression that they're seeing this bundle > of cash like an extra payday, period. I asked how far they think $1000 will > go in paying the rent of house note, and they all were silent. I pointed > out the billions that Trump is planning to give the big corporations, and > they had nothing to say about that. > > In the end, I was talking with the x-ray tech about all this. His final > words were, "well, they (the employers) sign our pay check." "Yeah, and we > do the work," was my reply. He kind of chuckled and muttered "that's true", > but it was clear he'd never looked at it like that before. > > In general, the union is the furthest thing from their mind, exactly > because of the absence of the union for many years. > > > John Reimann > > -- > *“In politics, abstract terms conceal treachery.” *from "The Black > Jacobins" by C. L. R. James > Check out:https:http://oaklandsocialist.com also on Facebook > _ > Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm > Set your options at: > https://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/mediacrusher%40gmail.com > -- J.A. Masko "The challenge of modernity is to live without illusions and without becoming disillusioned." Antonio Gramsci. _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: https://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
