Re: [matplotlib-devel] [Numpy-discussion] Announcing toydist, improving distribution and packaging situation

2010-01-04 Thread David Cournapeau
On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 5:48 PM, Dag Sverre Seljebotn da...@student.matnat.uio.no wrote: Rolling this into the Python package distribution scheme seems backwards though, since a lot of binary packages that have nothing to do with Python are used as well Yep, exactly. To solve the exact

Re: [matplotlib-devel] [SciPy-dev] [Numpy-discussion] Announcing toydist, improving distribution and packaging situation

2010-01-03 Thread David Cournapeau
On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 3:27 AM, Andrew Straw straw...@astraw.com wrote: Typically, the dependencies only depend on the smallest subset of what they require (if they don't need lapack, they'd only depend on python-numpy-core in your example), but yes, if there's an unsatisfiable condition,

Re: [matplotlib-devel] [Numpy-discussion] Announcing toydist, improving distribution and packaging situation

2010-01-03 Thread David Cournapeau
On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 8:05 PM, Nathaniel Smith n...@pobox.com wrote: On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 6:34 AM, David Cournapeau courn...@gmail.com wrote: Buildout, virtualenv all work by sandboxing from the system python: each of them do not see each other, which may be useful for development

Re: [matplotlib-devel] [Numpy-discussion] Announcing toydist, improving distribution and packaging situation

2010-01-03 Thread David Cournapeau
On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 8:42 AM, Nathaniel Smith n...@pobox.com wrote: On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 4:23 AM, David Cournapeau courn...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 8:05 PM, Nathaniel Smith n...@pobox.com wrote: What I do -- and documented for people in my lab to do -- is set up one

Re: [matplotlib-devel] [SciPy-dev] [Numpy-discussion] Announcing toydist, improving distribution and packaging situation

2010-01-01 Thread David Cournapeau
On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 6:06 AM, Darren Dale dsdal...@gmail.com wrote: I should defer to the description of extras in the setuptools documentation. It is only a few paragraphs long:

Re: [matplotlib-devel] [SciPy-User] [Numpy-discussion] Announcing toydist, improving distribution and packaging situation

2010-01-01 Thread David Cournapeau
On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 10:43 PM, Pierre Raybaut cont...@pythonxy.com wrote: Hi David, Following your announcement for the 'toydist' module, I think that your project is very promising: this is certainly a great idea and it will be very controversial but that's because people expectactions are

Re: [matplotlib-devel] [Numpy-discussion] Announcing toydist, improving distribution and packaging situation

2009-12-30 Thread David Cournapeau
On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 8:15 PM, René Dudfield ren...@gmail.com wrote: Sitting down with Tarek(who is one of the current distutils maintainers) in Berlin we had a little discussion about packaging over pizza and beer... and he was quite mindful of OS packagers problems and issues. This has

Re: [matplotlib-devel] [Numpy-discussion] Announcing toydist, improving distribution and packaging situation

2009-12-30 Thread David Cournapeau
On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 11:26 PM, Darren Dale dsdal...@gmail.com wrote: Hi David, On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 9:03 AM, David Cournapeau courn...@gmail.com wrote: Executable: grin    module: grin    function: grin_main Executable: grind    module: grin    function: grind_main Have you

Re: [matplotlib-devel] [Numpy-discussion] Announcing toydist, improving distribution and packaging situation

2009-12-29 Thread David Cournapeau
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 10:27 PM, René Dudfield ren...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, In the toydist proposal/release notes, I would address 'what does toydist do better' more explicitly. A big problem for science users is that numpy does not work with pypi + (easy_install, buildout or pip)

Re: [matplotlib-devel] [Numpy-discussion] Announcing toydist, improving distribution and packaging situation

2009-12-29 Thread David Cournapeau
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 10:27 PM, René Dudfield ren...@gmail.com wrote: Buildout is what a lot of the python community are using now. I would like to note that buildout is a solution to a problem that I don't care to solve. This issue is particularly difficult to explain to people accustomed

[matplotlib-devel] Announcing toydist, improving distribution and packaging situation

2009-12-28 Thread David Cournapeau
(warning, long post) Hi there, As some of you already know, the packaging and distributions of scientific python packages have been a constant source of frustration. Open source is about making it easy for anyone to use software how they see fit, and I think python packaging infrastructure

Re: [matplotlib-devel] Announcing toydist, improving distribution and packaging situation

2009-12-28 Thread David Cournapeau
On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 11:47 PM, Stefan Schwarzburg stefan.schwarzb...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, I would like to add a comment from the user perspective: - the main reason why I'm not satisfied with pypi/distutils/etc. and why I will not be satisfied with toydist (with the features you

Re: [matplotlib-devel] [SciPy-dev] Announcing toydist, improving distribution and packaging situation

2009-12-28 Thread David Cournapeau
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 3:03 AM, Neal Becker ndbeck...@gmail.com wrote: David Cournapeau wrote: On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 11:47 PM, Stefan Schwarzburg stefan.schwarzb...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, I would like to add a comment from the user perspective: - the main reason why I'm not satisfied

Re: [matplotlib-devel] [Numpy-discussion] Announcing toydist, improving distribution and packaging situation

2009-12-28 Thread David Cournapeau
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 3:49 AM, Dag Sverre Seljebotn da...@student.matnat.uio.no wrote: Do you here mean automatic generation of Ubuntu debs, Debian debs, Windows MSI installer, Windows EXE installer, and so on? (If so then great!) Yes (although this is not yet implemented). In particular on

Re: [matplotlib-devel] [SciPy-dev] Announcing toydist, improving distribution and packaging situation

2009-12-28 Thread David Cournapeau
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 8:02 AM, Gael Varoquaux gael.varoqu...@normalesup.org wrote: On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 02:29:24PM -0500, Neal Becker wrote: Perhaps this could be useful: http://checkinstall.izto.org/ Yes, checkinstall is really cool. However, I tend to prefer things with no magic that

Re: [matplotlib-devel] [PATCH] experimental numscons support in matplotlib

2009-11-25 Thread David Cournapeau
Andrew Straw wrote: Michael Droettboom wrote: I know it's been a while since you announced this, but I'm just looking into this now. Also, I got some ways in making the buildbot build with numscons, but I stopped at a bug where it looked like the matplotlib.tests.* modules were not

Re: [matplotlib-devel] [PATCH] experimental numscons support in matplotlib

2009-10-10 Thread David Cournapeau
Andrew Straw wrote: David Cournapeau wrote: Hi, I don't know if that's of any interest for matplotlib developers, but I added scripts to build matplotlib with numscons: http://github.com/cournape/matplotlib/tree/scons_build OK, I managed to clone your repo -- I cloned

Re: [matplotlib-devel] [PATCH] experimental numscons support in matplotlib

2009-10-06 Thread David Cournapeau
Andrew Straw wrote: David Cournapeau wrote: Hi, I don't know if that's of any interest for matplotlib developers, but I added scripts to build matplotlib with numscons: http://github.com/cournape/matplotlib/tree/scons_build Hi David, I'm trying to download your git

Re: [matplotlib-devel] [PATCH] experimental numscons support in matplotlib

2009-10-05 Thread David Cournapeau
Andrew Straw wrote: David Cournapeau wrote: Andrew Straw wrote: Andrew Straw wrote: David Cournapeau wrote: I have a question about git as well, actually - I could not update the svn metadata, unfortunately, by using git-svn rebase

Re: [matplotlib-devel] [PATCH] experimental numscons support in matplotlib

2009-10-04 Thread David Cournapeau
Andrew Straw wrote: Andrew Straw wrote: David Cournapeau wrote: I have a question about git as well, actually - I could not update the svn metadata, unfortunately, by using git-svn rebase -l (I used your branch on github and the instructions on matplotlib website). It gives me

Re: [matplotlib-devel] [PATCH] experimental numscons support in matplotlib

2009-10-02 Thread David Cournapeau
Hi Andrew, Andrew Straw wrote: Dear David, It certainly is of interest to me. When I get a little time (maybe this weekend), I'd like to try it. Specifically, I'd like to setup a buildbot that would automatically build and run the test suite with it. Along those lines, is there any reason

Re: [matplotlib-devel] [PATCH] experimental numscons support in matplotlib

2009-10-02 Thread David Cournapeau
Andrew Straw wrote: David Cournapeau wrote: Hi, I don't know if that's of any interest for matplotlib developers, but I added scripts to build matplotlib with numscons: http://github.com/cournape/matplotlib/tree/scons_build Not every configuration is supported yet, but I can

[matplotlib-devel] [PATCH] experimental numscons support in matplotlib

2009-10-01 Thread David Cournapeau
Hi, I don't know if that's of any interest for matplotlib developers, but I added scripts to build matplotlib with numscons: http://github.com/cournape/matplotlib/tree/scons_build Not every configuration is supported yet, but I can successfully build matplotlib on Linux with gtk or wx