Re: Modelling of generator contingencies with MOST
Dear Ray, Thank you very much for your help. The problem caused by the fact, that the physical ramp limits in the gen matrix (RAMP_10, RAMP_30 …) were set to zero. Kind regards, Maurus > On 20 Sep 2016, at 20:53, Ray Zimmermanwrote: > > Well, it is possible that it is simply the solution with least expected cost. > If, for instance, other generators have large ramping or redispatch costs, it > can be optimal to simply not use a generator that may fail in order to avoid > redispatch costs. On the other hand, physical ramp limits (RAMP_10 in the gen > matrix) can also prevent the dispatch from differing in the contingency and > base states. Large redispatch or reserve costs on the generator in question > can also be a possible cause (I know you said you tried zero reserve costs, > so that shouldn’t be the cause in this case). One more idea … is the > generator so expensive that it isn’t used at all, even if NOT modeling > contingencies? > >Ray > > > >> On Sep 20, 2016, at 12:01 PM, Rusch Maurus wrote: >> >> Dear all, >> >> I am currently trying to model generator contingencies in MOST. However, my >> problem is, that there is no variation of generator dispatch over all the >> modelled states. The generators with a contingency assigned have therefore >> zero dispatch in the base and contingency state. Consequently I get no >> differences between the base case and the states in which contingencies do >> occur. >> Moreover I have applied the same set up to model transmission line >> contingencies. This setup doesn’t cause any problems and I am getting >> different power flows in the base state and the states with contingencies. >> >> In my setup, I have assigned a big amount of positive/negative reserve >> quantities with zero reserve costs to the generators with modelled >> contingencies. I have already tried to define contingencies for all kind of >> generators (different maximum capacity, different marginal costs). The >> system I am simulating consists of 940 buses, 4500 generators and 1350 >> transmission lines. >> >> Did someone have the same problem? What could be the reason that I don’t get >> any differences in generator dispatch among the modelled states? >> >> Thank you very much for any kind of inputs and advices >> >> Maurus Rusch > > >
Re: Modelling of generator contingencies with MOST
Well, it is possible that it is simply the solution with least expected cost. If, for instance, other generators have large ramping or redispatch costs, it can be optimal to simply not use a generator that may fail in order to avoid redispatch costs. On the other hand, physical ramp limits (RAMP_10 in the gen matrix) can also prevent the dispatch from differing in the contingency and base states. Large redispatch or reserve costs on the generator in question can also be a possible cause (I know you said you tried zero reserve costs, so that shouldn’t be the cause in this case). One more idea … is the generator so expensive that it isn’t used at all, even if NOT modeling contingencies? Ray > On Sep 20, 2016, at 12:01 PM, Rusch Mauruswrote: > > Dear all, > > I am currently trying to model generator contingencies in MOST. However, my > problem is, that there is no variation of generator dispatch over all the > modelled states. The generators with a contingency assigned have therefore > zero dispatch in the base and contingency state. Consequently I get no > differences between the base case and the states in which contingencies do > occur. > Moreover I have applied the same set up to model transmission line > contingencies. This setup doesn’t cause any problems and I am getting > different power flows in the base state and the states with contingencies. > > In my setup, I have assigned a big amount of positive/negative reserve > quantities with zero reserve costs to the generators with modelled > contingencies. I have already tried to define contingencies for all kind of > generators (different maximum capacity, different marginal costs). The system > I am simulating consists of 940 buses, 4500 generators and 1350 transmission > lines. > > Did someone have the same problem? What could be the reason that I don’t get > any differences in generator dispatch among the modelled states? > > Thank you very much for any kind of inputs and advices > > Maurus Rusch
Modelling of generator contingencies with MOST
Dear all, I am currently trying to model generator contingencies in MOST. However, my problem is, that there is no variation of generator dispatch over all the modelled states. The generators with a contingency assigned have therefore zero dispatch in the base and contingency state. Consequently I get no differences between the base case and the states in which contingencies do occur. Moreover I have applied the same set up to model transmission line contingencies. This setup doesn’t cause any problems and I am getting different power flows in the base state and the states with contingencies. In my setup, I have assigned a big amount of positive/negative reserve quantities with zero reserve costs to the generators with modelled contingencies. I have already tried to define contingencies for all kind of generators (different maximum capacity, different marginal costs). The system I am simulating consists of 940 buses, 4500 generators and 1350 transmission lines. Did someone have the same problem? What could be the reason that I don’t get any differences in generator dispatch among the modelled states? Thank you very much for any kind of inputs and advices Maurus Rusch