[MCN-L] Call to action
Hello MCN list, I ask you to participate in an important international cultural awareness campaign. This campaign is a reaction to the acute crisis affecting major cultural institutions in Bosnia-Herzegovina. On October 4, 2012, after 124 years of existence, the country?s National Museum (Zemaljski Muzej)http://www.zemaljskimuzej.ba/index-en.php closed down due to the government?s failure to secure legal status and adequate funding. Your solidarity is needed! February 1, the date of this public call, marks the 125th Anniversary of Zemaljski Muzej?s existence. March 4, the date of this Day of Museum Solidarity, marks the six-month anniversary of the Zemaljski Muzej?s closure. This crisis in Bosnia-Herzegovina requires political, economic, and institutional solutions. By participating in the Day of Museum Solidarity, you will make an important and much needed contribution to resolving this crisis. To participate, please follow the simple directions provided on the CULTURESHUTDOWN webpagehttp://www.cultureshutdown.net/public-call-day-of-museum-solidarity/: http://www.cultureshutdown.net/public-call-day-of-museum-solidarity/ Tom Arnautovic Manager of Information Technology CROCKER ART MUSEUM 216 O Street Sacramento, CA 95814 direct 916.808.1176 crockerartmuseum.org The Crocker Art Museum now features ?Crocker Kids? classes and adventures for children of all ages. Encourage your kids to unleash their imaginations at the Museum by rolling, squishing, carving, painting, molding and sculpting. At the Crocker, kids can also forge trails through the galleries, travel six continents through art, celebrate their birthdays, and make their dreams come true at family sleepovers.
[MCN-L] FW: Bruce Willis To Sue Apple Over Right To Bequeath His iTunes Library
Can anyone point out the relevant non-transferability clause in the iTunes terms? I have a hard time finding it. http://www.apple.com/legal/itunes/us/terms.html Thanks Tom A. IT Manger CAM On Sep 3, 2012, at 7:45, Lesley Ellen Harris lesleyeharris at comcast.net wrote: It's also a good example to use to teach people about the difference between a license and an assignment, and what you can do with purchased content. Lesley Lesley Ellen Harris www.copyrightlaws.com @Copyrightlaws On Sep 3, 2012, at 9:13 AM, Amalyah Keshet [akeshet at imj.org.il] wrote: Go, Bruce! A very real issue affecting all of us (eventually) with many forms of digital content - including emails. _ 9/2/2012: According to The Sun (UK), Bruce Willis is preparing to sue Apple over the terms and conditions of its iTunes service. The actor has collected a huge music library, and wants to leave the haul to his daughters Rumer, Scout and Tallulah. But under iTunes' current terms and conditions, customers essentially only 'borrow' tracks rather than owning them outright. So any music library amassed like that would be worthless when the owner dies. http://www.forbes.com/sites/anthonykosner/2012/09/02/ownage-bruce-willis-to-sue-apple-over-right-to-bequeath-his-itunes-library/ __ Amalyah Keshet Head of Image Resources Copyright Management The Israel Museum, Jerusalem Chair, MCN IP SIG ___ You are currently subscribed to mcn-l, the listserv of the Museum Computer Network (http://www.mcn.edu) To post to this list, send messages to: mcn-l at mcn.edu To unsubscribe or change mcn-l delivery options visit: http://mcn.edu/mailman/listinfo/mcn-l The MCN-L archives can be found at: http://toronto.mediatrope.com/pipermail/mcn-l/ ___ You are currently subscribed to mcn-l, the listserv of the Museum Computer Network (http://www.mcn.edu) To post to this list, send messages to: mcn-l at mcn.edu To unsubscribe or change mcn-l delivery options visit: http://mcn.edu/mailman/listinfo/mcn-l The MCN-L archives can be found at: http://toronto.mediatrope.com/pipermail/mcn-l/
[MCN-L] Macs vs. CF media players, video distribution over LAN
Thanks David for the valuable insight. Greatly appreciated. On a side note: Using Darwin Streaming Server is free as well (like MWMS) with the benefit of a more readily available and cross-platform compatible audio/video codec: AAC/mp4. All Apple made machines since last year ship with Intel processors. Using the freely available Boot Camp software, or any of the VMs (Parallels or VMWare) gives you a Windows compatible PC. We do cross- platform web development using Parallels. Cheers, Tom A. On Aug 2, 2007, at 12:19 PM, David Marsh wrote: A quick note: We went ahead here at the planetarium and implemented a display project based on MAC minis. So far, they've been fine. We have a windows PC capturing a video stream from a piece of speciality software and sending it over the LAN, and we have MAC mini's picking up the stream and driving 37 LCD displays via VGA. All inexpensive and flexible. Anything we can get on a PC screen, we can send to any/all other PC/MAC connected screens in the building. Cost per feed around $1,000 including cost of Mac Mini and LAN cable drop. A 'conventional' off-the-shelf video distribution system (Extron VGA extender boxes, racked commodity Dell/HP PCs, Omnivex type software) cost around $3,500 up per screen feed. We went with MACs as they are hard to compete with as a digital Swiss Army Knife. I looked at building windows mini-PCs, but was looking at approaching twice the price for an inferior spec. Macs benefit from large-volume commodity pricing and specialized hardware (flash players etc) will always find it hard to compete. I'd prefer a PC as it would let me 1) use all my regular support tools (disk imaging, backup, AV etc.), 2) use Microsoft's Windows Media Player 3) and let me do everything on one platform. I'm using Microsoft Windows Media Services as it's free, but ended up needing to find a third-party media player (free VLC Player) to give good performance on the Macs. Microsoft don't offer a Mac media player ...or at least not one that's remotely useable (trust me on this). This is a major gotcha of going with Windows Media Services in a mixed MAC/PC environment. One of those major pains you discover in the thick of implementation too, as is should work in theory but doesn't in practice. FYI a high-def (approx 720p, 1280x768) feed runs at 28.5 fps using only 500kbits/s of LAN bandwidth. Streaming over the LAN is surprisingly cheap and easy to do and works very well. Stream and players seem stable too. I'd love to see an entirely flash-based micro PC with Windows, Ethernet, P4 class CPU and video output on board of comparable vintage for $500 or less (Acer Digital Engine?). DM === David Marsh Chief Technician H.R. MacMillan Space Centre 1100 Chestnut Street, Vancouver, BC V6J 3J9 E sysadmin at hrmacmillanspacecentre.com sysadmin at vanmuseum.bc.ca T (604) 738 7827 ext. 229 C (604) 813 9667 F (604) 736 5665 ? Please consider the environment before printing e-mails === ___ You are currently subscribed to mcn-l, the listserv of the Museum Computer Network (http://www.mcn.edu) To post to this list, send messages to: mcn-l at mcn.edu To unsubscribe or change mcn-l delivery options visit: http://toronto.mediatrope.com/mailman/listinfo/mcn-l
[MCN-L] DM-SiG: searching by color profile
This is what it would look like on my end using Aperture. The numbers in bold white under Calendar are the capture dates of the found set. -- next part -- On Apr 4, 2007, at 6:39 AM, Deborah Wythe wrote: Hi all -- Does anyone know if there's a way to search file lists by color profile without opening every file? We have an occasional problem withTIF files created in Adobe RGB (1998) getting converted into sRGB somewhere in the pipeline. Part of diagnosing where the problem is happening means finding the TIF files that are in sRGB. Suggestions welcomed! Thanks, Deb Wythe Deborah Wythe Head, Digital Collections and Services Brooklyn Museum 200 Eastern Parkway Brooklyn, NY 11238 tel: 718 501 6311 fax: 718 501 6145 deborahwythe at hotmail.com _ Download Messenger. Join the i?m Initiative. Help make a difference today. http://im.live.com/messenger/im/home/?source=TAGHM_APR07 ___ You are currently subscribed to mcn-l, the listserv of the Museum Computer Network (http://www.mcn.edu) To post to this list, send messages to: mcn-l at mcn.edu To unsubscribe or change mcn-l delivery options visit: http://toronto.mediatrope.com/mailman/listinfo/mcn-l
[MCN-L] Query: estimating storage for digital collections
Cost, reliability, stability, security Just a few to name ;-) On Jan 18, 2007, at 11:50 AM, Morgan, Matt wrote: On 1/17/07 10:36 AM, Jeffrey Evans jfevans at Princeton.EDU wrote: Notwithstanding what others will say on this list, get a Unix server... SGI, Sun, or Xserve. Always better for images. What impact does the server OS have on images? Are you writing to a filesystem or a DB? Direct Attached Storage, NAS, or SAN? I'm a big fan of Unix but it's only one piece of the pie here. ___ You are currently subscribed to mcn-l, the listserv of the Museum Computer Network (http://www.mcn.edu) To post to this list, send messages to: mcn-l at mcn.edu To unsubscribe or change mcn-l delivery options visit: http://toronto.mediatrope.com/mailman/listinfo/mcn-l
[MCN-L] JPEG to be replaced by Windows Media Photo?
Not to step on anyones toes, but speaking strictly from a storage point of view, we spent 25K dollars for a 11.2TB RAID system (before formating), including 3 year support service contract, spare parts kit and management software. To mirror an EMC backup and archival solution, another 20K would probably do, with no annual maintenance fees. On Oct 17, 2006, at 7:23 PM, Chuck Patch wrote: On 10/17/06, Tom A. tarnautovic at speakeasy.net wrote: Storage media (hdd) is getting cheaper and larger. I really do not see the need for a new compression algorithm these days. Especially from MS. I find this argument (which I have been hearing for years now) to be fairly specious. The fact is that while storage may be cheaper digital images are much bigger than they used to be and there are lots more of them. Nor has bandwidth speeded up in proportion to the bulking up of image sizes. And as for storage getting so much cheaper: having put down 70K dollars this year for a 3.2 TB EMC system and facing ongoing maintenance fees in the thousands per year, plus management software for the drives, etc., I'm not so sure that disk has gotten all that much cheaper, at least if you're talking about secure, robust storage. ___ You are currently subscribed to mcn-l, the listserv of the Museum Computer Network (http://www.mcn.edu) To post to this list, send messages to: mcn-l at mcn.edu To unsubscribe or change mcn-l delivery options visit: http://toronto.mediatrope.com/mailman/listinfo/mcn-l
[MCN-L] JPEG to be replaced by Windows Media Photo?
Storage media (hdd) is getting cheaper and larger. I really do not see the need for a new compression algorithm these days. Especially from MS. On Oct 17, 2006, at 7:12 AM, Mike Rippy wrote: It would be too bad if it wasnt open source. the philosophy has been that licensing should not be a restriction to adoption, Crow said. Id say the same thing if I were working for Microsoft. akeshet at imj.org.il 10/17/2006 2:19 AM Unlikely. Has anyone looked into this? --- If it is up to Microsoft, the omnipresent JPEG image format will be replaced by Windows Media Photo. The software maker detailed the new image format Wednesday at the Windows Hardware Engineering Conference here. Windows Media Photo will be supported in Windows Vista and also be made available for Windows XP, Bill Crow, program manager for Windows Media Photo, said in a presentation. One of the biggest reasons people upgrade their PCs is digital photos, Crow said, noting that Microsoft has been in contact with printer makers, digital camera companies and other unnamed industry partners while working on Windows Media Photo. Microsoft touts managing digital memories as one of the key attributes of XP successor Vista. In his presentation, Crow showed an image with 24:1 compression that visibly contained more detail in the Windows Media Photo format than the JPEG and JPEG 2000 formats compressed at the same level. http://news.com.com/2100-1025_3-6076650.html Amalyah Keshet Head of Image Resources Copyright Management The Israel Museum, Jerusalem fax 02-670-8064 tel 02-670-8874 akeshet at imj.org.il ___ You are currently subscribed to mcn-l, the listserv of the Museum Computer Network (http://www.mcn.edu) To post to this list, send messages to: mcn-l at mcn.edu To unsubscribe or change mcn-l delivery options visit: http://toronto.mediatrope.com/mailman/listinfo/mcn-l ___ You are currently subscribed to mcn-l, the listserv of the Museum Computer Network (http://www.mcn.edu) To post to this list, send messages to: mcn-l at mcn.edu To unsubscribe or change mcn-l delivery options visit: http://toronto.mediatrope.com/mailman/listinfo/mcn-l
[MCN-L] JPEG to be replaced by Windows Media Photo?
May have given us CSS (and AJAX), but we all know how well IE6 renders it. Hm, re-compressing 10TB of data does not sound like time well spend, just so I can save a few GB. May be a good idea for someone that is just starting to build a repository, but otherwise I do not see a point. On Oct 17, 2006, at 8:07 AM, Ray Shah wrote: MS gave us CSS, a very handy technology, and a good way to separate content from presentation. Technologists will always find a better way to do things, and as mathematical theories evolve better algorithms will emerge. Better storage, yes, great! Better algorithms, why not, particularly if they are kept in the public domain. -- - Ray Ray Shah - think design, inc. Web, application design, usability, training. rayshah at thinkdesign.com tel: 212.922.0952 x 212 http://www.thinkdesign.com mobile: 917.476.0952 On Oct 17, 2006, at 10:59 AM, Tom A. wrote: Storage media (hdd) is getting cheaper and larger. I really do not see the need for a new compression algorithm these days. Especially from MS. On Oct 17, 2006, at 7:12 AM, Mike Rippy wrote: It would be too bad if it wasnt open source. the philosophy has been that licensing should not be a restriction to adoption, Crow said. Id say the same thing if I were working for Microsoft. akeshet at imj.org.il 10/17/2006 2:19 AM Unlikely. Has anyone looked into this? --- If it is up to Microsoft, the omnipresent JPEG image format will be replaced by Windows Media Photo. The software maker detailed the new image format Wednesday at the Windows Hardware Engineering Conference here. Windows Media Photo will be supported in Windows Vista and also be made available for Windows XP, Bill Crow, program manager for Windows Media Photo, said in a presentation. One of the biggest reasons people upgrade their PCs is digital photos, Crow said, noting that Microsoft has been in contact with printer makers, digital camera companies and other unnamed industry partners while working on Windows Media Photo. Microsoft touts managing digital memories as one of the key attributes of XP successor Vista. In his presentation, Crow showed an image with 24:1 compression that visibly contained more detail in the Windows Media Photo format than the JPEG and JPEG 2000 formats compressed at the same level. http://news.com.com/2100-1025_3-6076650.html Amalyah Keshet Head of Image Resources Copyright Management The Israel Museum, Jerusalem fax 02-670-8064 tel 02-670-8874 akeshet at imj.org.il ___ You are currently subscribed to mcn-l, the listserv of the Museum Computer Network (http://www.mcn.edu) To post to this list, send messages to: mcn-l at mcn.edu To unsubscribe or change mcn-l delivery options visit: http://toronto.mediatrope.com/mailman/listinfo/mcn-l ___ You are currently subscribed to mcn-l, the listserv of the Museum Computer Network (http://www.mcn.edu) To post to this list, send messages to: mcn-l at mcn.edu To unsubscribe or change mcn-l delivery options visit: http://toronto.mediatrope.com/mailman/listinfo/mcn-l ___ You are currently subscribed to mcn-l, the listserv of the Museum Computer Network (http://www.mcn.edu) To post to this list, send messages to: mcn-l at mcn.edu To unsubscribe or change mcn-l delivery options visit: http://toronto.mediatrope.com/mailman/listinfo/mcn-l ___ You are currently subscribed to mcn-l, the listserv of the Museum Computer Network (http://www.mcn.edu) To post to this list, send messages to: mcn-l at mcn.edu To unsubscribe or change mcn-l delivery options visit: http://toronto.mediatrope.com/mailman/listinfo/mcn-l
[MCN-L] JPEG to be replaced by Windows Media Photo?
Little correction: The 'father of CSS is actually H?kon Wium Lie. MS's Thomas Reardon joined him and Bert Bos to finalize the specs. On Oct 17, 2006, at 8:07 AM, Ray Shah wrote: MS gave us CSS, a very handy technology, and a good way to separate content from presentation. Technologists will always find a better way to do things, and as mathematical theories evolve better algorithms will emerge. Better storage, yes, great! Better algorithms, why not, particularly if they are kept in the public domain. -- - Ray Ray Shah - think design, inc. Web, application design, usability, training. rayshah at thinkdesign.com tel: 212.922.0952 x 212 http://www.thinkdesign.com mobile: 917.476.0952 On Oct 17, 2006, at 10:59 AM, Tom A. wrote: Storage media (hdd) is getting cheaper and larger. I really do not see the need for a new compression algorithm these days. Especially from MS. On Oct 17, 2006, at 7:12 AM, Mike Rippy wrote: It would be too bad if it wasnt open source. the philosophy has been that licensing should not be a restriction to adoption, Crow said. Id say the same thing if I were working for Microsoft. akeshet at imj.org.il 10/17/2006 2:19 AM Unlikely. Has anyone looked into this? --- If it is up to Microsoft, the omnipresent JPEG image format will be replaced by Windows Media Photo. The software maker detailed the new image format Wednesday at the Windows Hardware Engineering Conference here. Windows Media Photo will be supported in Windows Vista and also be made available for Windows XP, Bill Crow, program manager for Windows Media Photo, said in a presentation. One of the biggest reasons people upgrade their PCs is digital photos, Crow said, noting that Microsoft has been in contact with printer makers, digital camera companies and other unnamed industry partners while working on Windows Media Photo. Microsoft touts managing digital memories as one of the key attributes of XP successor Vista. In his presentation, Crow showed an image with 24:1 compression that visibly contained more detail in the Windows Media Photo format than the JPEG and JPEG 2000 formats compressed at the same level. http://news.com.com/2100-1025_3-6076650.html Amalyah Keshet Head of Image Resources Copyright Management The Israel Museum, Jerusalem fax 02-670-8064 tel 02-670-8874 akeshet at imj.org.il ___ You are currently subscribed to mcn-l, the listserv of the Museum Computer Network (http://www.mcn.edu) To post to this list, send messages to: mcn-l at mcn.edu To unsubscribe or change mcn-l delivery options visit: http://toronto.mediatrope.com/mailman/listinfo/mcn-l ___ You are currently subscribed to mcn-l, the listserv of the Museum Computer Network (http://www.mcn.edu) To post to this list, send messages to: mcn-l at mcn.edu To unsubscribe or change mcn-l delivery options visit: http://toronto.mediatrope.com/mailman/listinfo/mcn-l ___ You are currently subscribed to mcn-l, the listserv of the Museum Computer Network (http://www.mcn.edu) To post to this list, send messages to: mcn-l at mcn.edu To unsubscribe or change mcn-l delivery options visit: http://toronto.mediatrope.com/mailman/listinfo/mcn-l ___ You are currently subscribed to mcn-l, the listserv of the Museum Computer Network (http://www.mcn.edu) To post to this list, send messages to: mcn-l at mcn.edu To unsubscribe or change mcn-l delivery options visit: http://toronto.mediatrope.com/mailman/listinfo/mcn-l
[MCN-L] File Storage Best Practices Redux
Just to chime in quickly We finally gave up on DVD storage and are exclusively using disk based solutions for data (or images). One of our Xserve RAIDs has two 2.8TB disk banks. One bank is used for incoming data, the other mirrors the first for backup. Another Xserve RAID's bank is used as a secondary backup to the first RAID. After searching high and low for a good Backup software package, it dawned on me that Roxio Toast has a backup utility called Deja Vu, which I ignored for a long time. I gave it a spin and I have not looked back. A little tip: We bought our second Xserve RAID (5.6TB, less when formated) factory reconditioned for $6k less then a new unit. Since it was factory reconditioned, the standard one year warranty still applied, and we bought the Premium Service and Support plan for another $700, extending the warranty another two years. On Aug 31, 2006, at 9:50 AM, David Marsh wrote: Hi Chuck... I'm reviewing similar issues on a much smaller scale here at the Space Centre and Museum here in Vancouver BC. Here's some random thoughts on my efforts. FYI: we're a non profit operating with minimal budgets and resources here. Enterprise class Solution Providers need not apply! :-) (...open source hackers get free coffee and cookies) Our main shared resource is a single shared directory tree which contains everything from planetarium visuals to accounting's Excel spreadsheets. I use disk based backup with a 10 cartridge rotation. The entire tree is backed up daily. Using commodity IDE (or SATA) hard disks is very cost effective. Blows tape systems out of the water regarding cost, speed, random access, flexibility. But a single tier system like this will inevitably run out of space eventually, so I'm looking to develop a more sophisticated model. My current line of thinking is to retain the single tree for simplicity. Users (all of them ...not just the technophiles) need to understand something before they can use it. I'm intending to add a separate archive area. This will be on a separate disk volume. The main directory tree will be scanned nightly, and any file not even looked at for, say, 6 months will be moved to the archive in an identical directory path. It will probably be made read-only. I may provide users direct access to it, and that would stop them modifying the contents. I want that data static. Right now I'm thinking of maintaining 3 copies of the archive. That's a big deal, as with the 10 cartridge rotation on the main directory tree, we need 10 GB of media for every 1 GB of working space. That really holds us back from exploiting cheap disk space to the fullest. With this archive system, we'll only need 3, so all things being equal we'll have 3 (ok, 3.33...) times the archive space on the same hardware budget. The three, rotating copies will be 1 online, 1 physically secure on-sight and one in a safety deposit box (size 2) at the bank we do our cash run with. I've also considered another step: as content is moved to the archive, A copy of the new stuff is buffered in a separate area. When exactly one DVD's worth of stuff has arrived, it's burnt to DVD as extra insurance. Not sure this step is worth the trouble. Only 3 copies leaves me instinctively nervous when I'm accustomed to 10, but that is purely psychology. I'm telling myself the chances of 3 drives failing simultaneously must be remote (remember 2 offline, 1 offsite). Still, my instincts aren't quite satisfied. Intellectually, I feel burning the DVDs is less cost effective and less flexible than simply getting more hard drives. Hard disks are hard to beat for $/GB and optical storage never seems to catch up, though with each new generation of CD technology it closes the gap for a while. Even 9.something GB on a double layer disk isn't looking very big anymore (my cheap IDE disk cartridges are 300GB). The labor and logistics of doing the DVD burn are not welcome either. And of course optical disks are not famous for reliable, long term stability that you'd bet your institution on. I'm also considering another class of data: Extremely bulky data Examples would be planetarium production files (can be HUGE) and collections digitization and cataloging (I have a conservator who's very busy with a shiny new digital camera right now). I'd really like to find a storage solution that doesn't need 10 rotation copies as that would be prohibitive given the size I want to achieve. But it has to be safely backed up. I'm considering maybe two mirrored copies online (different ends of the building, UPSs etc), a third offline locally, and a fourth off- site. The last two are essential to protect from a) a system-wide event and b) destruction of the building(!). The problem I've not answered yet is volume size. I want to use JABOD or software raid to build big, easily scalable disk volumes
[MCN-L] Adobe Lightroom
Hello, I cannot comment on Lightroom, but we've been using Aperture with great success. We captured about 2500 3D objects, and the management abilities are truly superb. You may want to read up on some comparisons on the web of the two products. On Jul 19, 2006, at 10:25 AM, Perian Sully wrote: Hi list: Someone on another list mentioned this new product (currently in open beta) by Adobe called Lightroom: http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/lightroom/?trackingid=IFQT It looks to be a photographer workflow program, with some interesting features (such as being able to apply keywords to a set of photographs, applying RAW settings to a set, amongst others). As it's still in beta, some of the metadata functionality is still being developed. Anyway, I was wondering if anyone was beta testing this product and what they think of it thus far. -- Perian Sully Collection Database and Records Administrator Judah L. Magnes Museum 2911 Russell St. Berkeley, CA 94705 510-549-6950 x 335 ___ You are currently subscribed to mcn-l, the listserv of the Museum Computer Network (http://www.mcn.edu) To post to this list, send messages to: mcn-l at mcn.edu To unsubscribe or change mcn-l delivery options visit: http://toronto.mediatrope.com/mailman/listinfo/mcn-l
Re: MCN-L Digitization procedures
To add to the list: DSpace (www.dspace.org) for institutions that have at least one technologically skilled support person.By all means, do include my suggestion if you see fit. Since most image editing and processing is done in Photoshop (at least in my organization), Version Cue fits right into it.On Jan 6, 2006, at 9:00 AM, Mike Rippy wrote:The list I provided isnt exhaustive. There are a lot of various approaches and applications that can be used to manage digital files. And can be used at varous skill levels. If others have opinions of software that would work well in a workflow, please provide them. tarnauto...@speakeasy.net 1/6/2006 10:46 AM I am surprised that no-one is looking into Adobe (Version) Cue.On Jan 6, 2006, at 6:44 AM, Mike Rippy wrote: We havent purchased a system yet. We are still investigating different Digital Asset Management systems. Most of them have a way of creating derivatives as needed. I am not endorsing these products. Just letting you know of the systems I have heard of. http://www.artesiatech.com/html/artesia_for_dam.html http://www.clearstorysystems.com/ and I believe the lower cost products do as well: http://www.extensis.com/en/products/asset_management/product_information.jsp?id=prod60022 http://www.canto.com/ List of Image Management Systems (Feb 2005) from TASI: http://www.tasi.ac.uk/advice/delivering/ims-software.html Matt from concrete computing can probably give you some insight as well. And a more up to date selection. He posted the first reply to this topic. And as he said, "These systems go all the way from $0 to high six figures in cash, and take significant effort and time to implement and maintain." (my emphasis). Mike. ang...@vtls.com 1/6/2006 9:26 AM Mike, May I ask what application you are using to create the each derivative on the fly?Angela -Original Message-From: Mike Rippy [mailto:mri...@ima-art.org]Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 9:25 AMTo: mcn-l@mcn.eduSubject: Re: MCN-L Digitization procedures Oh, by the way. Our plan here for our collection photography is to store the raw file, create a master tif file (that has been corrected for dust, color, etc.) and from that make various jpg derivitives (as needed). However, do to storage space limitations, we are considering using a new system that uses an application to generate derivatives on "the fly" to be delivered to our users. Saving the cost of storing each derivative file. We also keep each file seperated in a folder for that file type, raw, tif, jpg_screen, jpg_thumb. Be sure to pay close attention to you naming conventions also, http://www.tasi.ac.uk/advice/creating/filenaming.html. This is also covered in the National Archives guidelines. Mike. m...@concretecomputing.com 12/27/2005 9:54 PM There's probably no perfect way to store images on a filesystem, so maybe it should just come down to personal preference. Unless you need specific security settings--for example, so some people can see/edit some files but not others. In that case, you might want to build the arrangement to mirror the security arrangement, which will make setup easier, and corrections a lot easier. There might also be other factors like that, that I'm not thinking of. Anyone else?The "right" way to store images is in some kind of databasing system that keeps image metadata alongside the image files so that you can always find them again by working your way down a hierarchical tree (bad but demonstrative example: Paintings--19th Century--Impressionism--American--Cassatt, Mary--The Cup of Tea) or by searching according to subject, artist, media, title, etc. It's hard to impossible to duplicate that with directories on disk and maintain it reliably. These systems go all the way from $0 to high six figures in cash, and take significant effort and time to implement and maintain.good luck,MattPerian Sully wrote: Hi all: I'm currently developing our digitization procedures and I was wondering what other institutions do to organize their content. I'm planning on photographing identification database images in a fairly high resolution jpg and photograph in RAW for publication-quality. Once the images are downloaded, I'll be processing them in small, medium and large dpi (72/150/?) and saving the original. What I'm really sort of curious about is how many different file sizes people save in and if they keep file directories for each size or lump them all together. Hope you're all having some relaxing holidays! Perian SullyCollection Database and Records AdministratorJudah L. Magnes Museum2911 Russell StreetBerkeley, CA 94705(510) 549-6950 ext. 335--- You are currently subscribed to mcn_mcn-l as: m...@concretecomputing.com To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-mcn_mcn-l-12800...@listserver.americaneagle.com--- You are currently subscribed to mcn_mcn-l as: ang...@vtls.com To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-mcn_mcn-l-491428...@listserver.americaneagle.com--- You are
Re: [MCN-L] Linux or Windows Servers?
I second what Rich had to say. We do use a Win03 server for our intranet collection database, mainly because of IT standards, but our public web portal and image database is run on OS X using OSS solutions. As for KE eMU, I did not dig around too much into it, but it looks to be mainly based on OSS components. The Unix/Linux requirements only state recent Perl and PHP, both which are included in OS X, and can be upgraded using packaged installers. As for what DB they require, that may be a deal breaker. OS X supports MySQL, PostgreSQL, Oracle, and others. As for security (without being inflammatory) Windows is a swiss cheese right now, whereby in comparison OS X had zero viruses/malware/ spyware occurrences since its initial release, five years ago. It may change, but for right now this is the reality. Good luck On Dec 9, 2005, at 6:53 AM, Rich Hephner wrote: I think you may as well of asked, Which religion do you recommend?, but having said that, I would echo what others have said. The real question is which platform is the software designed for. That's where it will give you the best performance. If I may be so bold. Why don't you consider a Mac Server? Mac OS is unix based, so it should be supported by KE EMu, and Mac Servers are incredibly easy to administer. Almost as easy as Microsoft. : ) I would think the learning curve would be much slighter for a Mac server than Linux. On Thu, 8 Dec 2005, Karim Boughida wrote: Hi Richard and all, I am biased towards the usage of Linux but before choosing a platform...you need to do some survey? how many KE EMU sites use Linux vs windows..most vendors claim supporting multiple platforms but in reality they excel just in one? which platform were originally developed by KE EMU? For red hat vs SUSE..KE EMU web site seems o refer to red hat? For expose the website/public interface on a Linux/Apache box that would be great but it seems that KE EMU prefers MS IIS. Karim Boughida kbough...@getty.edu museumn...@earthlink.net 2005-12-08 07:53:09 I'd suggest going with Windows if that's what your IT consultant currently supports, in the immediate term you don't want production to be slowed down because they're busy learning linux on your dime. If the pros for Linux are compelling enough I'd find another IT firm with expertise in managing Linux or require that your current IT consultant retain someone with qualifications (and get this in writing). If you do go with Linux, it would be helpful to know which flavor of Linux KE Emu recommends - Red Hat, SuSE, etc. can come with support that off-the shelf Linux doesn't. But there can also be conflicts depending on KE Emu's requirements and the way these packages install updates, etc. Does KE Emu support multiple platforms at the same time? Hypothetically, I might want to run it internally for staff on a Windows server, but expose the website/public interface on a Linux/Apache box. Just curious Richard Urban UIUC-GSLIS rjur...@uiuc.edu _ From: Perian Sully [mailto:psu...@magnes.org] Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 5:10 PM To: mcn-l@mcn.edu Subject: [MCN-L] Linux or Windows Servers? Hi all: We're ramping up to purchase a server and several workstations for our new Collections database and we have pro and con arguments for either Linux or Windows servers. Currently, we're leaning heavily toward purchasing KE EMu for our database software. EMu can run on either type of server. I personally have little knowledge of Linux, and our IT consultants, when asked, said that they could learn it. However, I understand that Windows servers have more security issues and are more prone to crashing than Linux servers, but Linux servers are not as easy to set up. We will be using the database mostly in-house initially, for collections management purposes, then expanding it to be accessible via our website. We may also look at making it kiosk-accessible. Do any of you have words of wisdom about this topic, or have had good/bad experiences you can relate? Thanks! Perian Sully Assistant Registrar Collection Database and Records Administrator Judah L. Magnes Museum 2911 Russell Street Berkeley, CA 94705 --- You are currently subscribed to mcn_mcn-l as: museumn...@earthlink.net To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-mcn_mcn-l-12800...@listserver.americaneagle.com --- You are currently subscribed to mcn_mcn-l as: kbough...@getty.edu To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-mcn_mcn- l-491428...@listserver.americaneagle.com --- You are currently subscribed to mcn_mcn-l as: ott...@pegasi.net To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-mcn_mcn- l-491428...@listserver.americaneagle.com --- You are currently subscribed to mcn_mcn-l as: tarnauto...@speakeasy.net To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-mcn_mcn- l-491428...@listserver.americaneagle.com --- You are currently subscribed
Re: [MCN SIG: Digital Media] Uniiversal Photographic Digital Imaging Guidelines
Not to derail the discussion too much, but has anyone looked into the recently released program of Apple called Aperture? In regards to storage and storage needs, Aperture apparently only stores XML based reference files as you edit a RAW image and saves it as such, without the need of creating a second copy. This in turn, makes versioning of images an easier task.It supports, among the standard still image formats, the following RAW based formats:CRW, NEF, TIF, CR2, OLY, DNGOn Dec 1, 2005, at 12:46 PM, Newman, Alan wrote: Roger, Here is the counter-argument FOR archiving RAW files of museum objects and also layered TIF rather than PSD. It is articulated much better than I can by Bruce Fraser, who has published widely on Camera Raw, Photoshop and Color Management.In our case at the Gallery we save a pointer to the camera profile along with the Raw file. Alan Newman National Gallery of Art Hi Alan, The argument for tossing the raw seems like keeping the print and destroying the negative! It also overlooks the fact that the raw capture always contains an unambiguous known color reference, so the point about not knowing how to interpret it is weak. Short of reshooting (which not always be quite as easy as this argument suggests), it's the closest thing we have to the actual work (which may have deteriorated, or been damaged, or stolen, or lost, or destroyed).A fixed rendition is a great working file, but it's been through the distortions imposed by the display, the viewing environment, and the predilections of the operator. It may well be the best rendition possible today, but assuming that it's the best possible rendition for all time is a bet I'd decline! (I've been transitioning my main imaging display from an Artisan to an NEC 2180WG running at 200cd/m2, and the wider gamut and higher luminance of the new display is causing me to revisit many imaging decisions I'd previously thought were a done deal, so this is very much a foreground issue for me right now.)The current plethora of raw formats is indeed a problem, and something like DNG is badly needed. It's true that different raw converters will interpret the same raw differently. But that's the point of keeping the raw-we'll have better demosaicing and sharpening algorithms long before we'll have better sensors, let alone better lenses. You have the color reference in the image, AND the interpreted TIFF, as guides to interpretation in addition to the work itself.Last but not least, the raw file is key to providing image provenance. Without it, the renderd TIFF is just someone's interpretation-a pretty picture, but with no traceable relationship to the original work.Regarding layered TIFF. We save the layers because they let us see what has been done to the image-again, it's a question of image provenance. I don't expect those layers to ever be readable outside Photoshop unless someone makes a heroic effort to do so, but should such a heroic effort become necessary in whatever post-apocalyptic scenario one cares to envisage, it's more likely to be successful if it has to deal with a documented open file format (TIFF) thata) makes it easy to determine which data represents the layers and b) always contains a flattened composite version of the image written in a standard way, than if it has to address .PSD, an undocumented proprietary file format that doesn't necessarily contain a composite, and is distinctly unfriendly to metadata.Layered TIFF with ZIP compression creates smaller files than any other layered losslessly-compressed format. While it's unlikely that anything other than Photoshop will read the layers, that's true of Photoshop layer data in ANY format. But any well-behaved TIFF consumer can read the composite layer, so it's simply untrue to say that it's unlikely that the spec will ever be supported outside Photoshop. It's true that some TIFF consumers haven't yet been updated to handle ZIP compression, but that's an entirely separate issue from layered TIFF. For the record, InDesign, Illustrator, and Acrobat all eat ZIP-compressed TIFF, with or without layers. QuarkXPress currently has difficulty with ZIP compression but handles layered TIFF with no problem. But presumably for such uses, you'd be creating a flattened downsampled iteration from the master file anyway?Bruce -- From: Roger Howard Reply To: mcn-l@mcn.edu Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 8:10 PM To: mcn-l@mcn.edu Subject: RE: [MCN SIG: Digital Media] Uniiversal Photographic Digital Imaging Guidelines A few thoughts on this thread: RAW files - there really needs to be a business case to support this, so everyone should start with that - not whether it's better in some respects. While I would certainly support maintaining some flavor of RAW (leaning towards DNG) in some cases, I'm not sure how well it really applies to facsimile collections imaging. While an RGB TIFF with embedded ICC profile is essentially a fixed rendition of the object,
Re: [MCN SIG: Digital Media] Uniiversal Photographic Digital Imaging Guidelines
CreativePro has done an interview with the product manager of Aperture. Very informative article. Can be found at: http://www.creativepro.com/story/feature/23554.html On Dec 2, 2005, at 11:23 AM, Mike Rippy wrote: Im curious how fast it runs in comparison with Photoshop on the same system. The one they suggest is pretty powerful. Also, isnt Adobe's XMP sidecar file similar to the XML sidecar file Aperture is creating? I think some of wording on their advertising implies that Aperture somehow creates a digital master file that is different from the raw file that is downloaded. I do like the versioning function they mention. Which sounds like more than one XML file or XML fields are created for the raw file. Mike. a-new...@nga.gov 12/2/2005 11:55 AM Yes. Aperture looks like an interesting application to complement Photoshop. It seems to be very fast (in the demo I saw) and has a very good tool for dealing with dust and scratches. It doesn't support layers. It's also setup to import metadata quickly and efficiently in batch. Bridge does this too but sometimes chokes. The test would be how well it handles very large files. Alan -Original Message- From: Tom A. [mailto:tarnauto...@speakeasy.net] Sent: Fri 12/2/2005 10:55 AM To: mcn-l@mcn.edu Cc: Subject: Re: [MCN SIG: Digital Media] Uniiversal Photographic Digital Imaging Guidelines Not to derail the discussion too much, but has anyone looked into the recently released program of Apple called Aperture? In regards to storage and storage needs, Aperture apparently only stores XML based reference files as you edit a RAW image and saves it as such, without the need of creating a second copy. This in turn, makes versioning of images an easier task. It supports, among the standard still image formats, the following RAW based formats: CRW, NEF, TIF, CR2, OLY, DNG On Dec 1, 2005, at 12:46 PM, Newman, Alan wrote: Roger, Here is the counter-argument FOR archiving RAW files of museum objects and also layered TIF rather than PSD. It is articulated much better than I can by Bruce Fraser, who has published widely on Camera Raw, Photoshop and Color Management. In our case at the Gallery we save a pointer to the camera profile along with the Raw file. Alan Newman National Gallery of Art Hi Alan, The argument for tossing the raw seems like keeping the print and destroying the negative! It also overlooks the fact that the raw capture always contains an unambiguous known color reference, so the point about not knowing how to interpret it is weak. Short of reshooting (which not always be quite as easy as this argument suggests), it's the closest thing we have to the actual work (which may have deteriorated, or been damaged, or stolen, or lost, or destroyed). A fixed rendition is a great working file, but it's been through the distortions imposed by the display, the viewing environment, and the predilections of the operator. It may well be the best rendition possible today, but assuming that it's the best possible rendition for all time is a bet I'd decline! (I've been transitioning my main imaging display from an Artisan to an NEC 2180WG running at 200cd/m2, and the wider gamut and higher luminance of the new display is causing me to revisit many imaging decisions I'd previously thought were a done deal, so this is very much a foreground issue for me right now.) The current plethora of raw formats is indeed a problem, and something like DNG is badly needed. It's true that different raw converters will interpret the same raw differently. But that's the point of keeping the raw-we'll have better demosaicing and sharpening algorithms long before we'll have better sensors, let alone better lenses. You have the color reference in the image, AND the interpreted TIFF, as guides to interpretation in addition to the work itself. Last but not least, the raw file is key to providing image provenance. Without it, the renderd TIFF is just someone's interpretation-a pretty picture, but with no traceable relationship to the original work. Regarding layered TIFF. We save the layers because they let us see what has been done to the image-again, it's a question of image provenance. I don't expect those layers to ever be readable outside Photoshop unless someone makes a heroic effort to do so, but should such a heroic effort become necessary in whatever post-apocalyptic scenario one cares to envisage, it's more likely to be successful if it has to deal with a documented open file format (TIFF) that% a) makes it easy to determine which data represents the layers and b) always contains a flattened composite version of the image written in a standard way, than if it has to address .PSD, an undocumented proprietary file format that doesn't necessarily contain a composite, and is distinctly unfriendly to metadata. Layered TIFF with ZIP compression creates
Re: [MCN SIG: Digital Media] Uniiversal Photographic Digital Imaging Guidelines
Exhaustive Aperture review:http://www.pdnonline.com/pdn/prodtech/reviews/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1001435191On Dec 2, 2005, at 12:52 PM, Mike Rippy wrote: About the creativepro article. This section below is a bit confusing. Does it overwrite the raw file or just make a jpeg? And if it overwrites? this seems to be a flaw in iPhoto, not an improvement in digital imaging created by Aperture. Photoshop already does this. I dont like it when semantics get in the way of a sale. "Let me also draw the distinction between Aperture and iPhoto. You can see a Raw image in iPhoto, but let's say you make an adjustment to the file, like changing contrast. In iPhoto, you now have an 8-bit JPEG. You've said goodbye to Raw." In the next paragraph he lets on to what is happening. "So the iPhoto choices are that you work in the world of JPEG [after converting to raw], or you go back to Raw [the still existing "master" raw file] and lose all the adjustments you've done in iPhoto. It's a binary decision." [] my commentsHe is explaining in a very cryptic way how the xml sidecars holds onto information allowing you to "version" and "edit" raw files.Also, Im not sure how much support there is for the medium format digital backs. If its suppose to be a pro tool they should have those manufacturers on board as well. When I first lookead at the software I just saw DSLR support. Has anything changed?Mike. tarnauto...@speakeasy.net 12/2/2005 3:31 PM CreativePro has done an interview with the product manager of Aperture. Very informative article. Can be found at:http://www.creativepro.com/story/feature/23554.htmlOn Dec 2, 2005, at 11:23 AM, Mike Rippy wrote: Im curious how fast it runs in comparison with Photoshop on the same system. The one they suggest is pretty powerful. Also, isnt Adobe's XMP sidecar file similar to the XML sidecar file Aperture is creating? I think some of wording on their advertising implies that Aperture somehow creates a digital master file that is different from the raw file that is downloaded. I do like the "versioning" function they mention. Which sounds like more than one XML file or XML fields are created for the raw file. Mike. a-new...@nga.gov 12/2/2005 11:55 AM Yes. Aperture looks like an interesting application to complement Photoshop. It seems to be very fast (in the demo I saw) and has a very good tool for dealing with dust and scratches. It doesn't support layers. It's also setup to import metadata quickly and efficiently in batch. Bridge does this too but sometimes chokes. The test would be how well it handles very large files. Alan -Original Message- From: Tom A. [mailto:tarnauto...@speakeasy.net] Sent: Fri 12/2/2005 10:55 AM To: mcn-l@mcn.edu Cc: Subject: Re: [MCN SIG: Digital Media] Uniiversal Photographic Digital Imaging Guidelines Not to derail the discussion too much, but has anyone looked into the recently released program of Apple called Aperture? In regards to storage and storage needs, Aperture apparently only stores XML based reference files as you edit a RAW image and saves it as such, without the need of creating a second copy. This in turn, makes versioning of images an easier task. It supports, among the standard still image formats, the following RAW based formats: CRW, NEF, TIF, CR2, OLY, DNG On Dec 1, 2005, at 12:46 PM, Newman, Alan wrote: Roger, Here is the counter-argument FOR archiving RAW files of museum objects and also layered TIF rather than PSD. It is articulated much better than I can by Bruce Fraser, who has published widely on Camera Raw, Photoshop and Color Management. In our case at the Gallery we save a pointer to the camera profile along with the Raw file. Alan Newman National Gallery of ArtHi Alan, The argument for tossing the raw seems like keeping the print and destroying the negative! It also overlooks the fact that the raw capture always contains an unambiguous known color reference, so the point about not knowing how to interpret it is weak. Short of reshooting (which not always be quite as easy as this argument suggests), it's the closest thing we have to the actual work (which may have deteriorated, or been damaged, or stolen, or lost, or destroyed). A fixed rendition is a great working file, but it's been through the distortions imposed by the display, the viewing environment, and the predilections of the operator. It may well be the best rendition possible today, but assuming that it's the best possible rendition for all time is a bet I'd decline! (I've been transitioning my main imaging display from an Artisan to an NEC 2180WG running at 200cd/m2, and the wider gamut and higher luminance of the new display is causing me to revisit many imaging decisions I'd previously thought were a done deal, so this is very much a foreground issue for me right now.) The current plethora
Re: IT Sig: Where do you go for ...
Becky, If you want to stay with your current setup: For system integration you may want to consult with a professional organization that specializes in that matter. One company, www.novacoast.com, comes to mind. Their client list is pretty impressive. If you have the flexibility (and money) to re-organize: Looking at the set of applications your organization uses, a server-client based, and customized, FileMaker solution would take care of most of your integration issues (except Email). Furthermore, a lot of OS projects could be of use to you and may be easier to integrate down the road, especially since most of them use MySQL as their backend. One such project, called Mambo, lets you integrate most of your current application software into one web portal (Tickets, donations, museum store, collection database). Good luck, Tom becky.go...@mam.org 05/25/05 7:45 AM Good Morning, about 150 Dell Computers a handful of Macs and laptops Asante switches 1 building Desktop OS Windows 2000 and XP OSX 9.0 Server OS Primary/Secondary Domain Controllers, Win NT 4.0 Member Servers, Windows 2000 Server Hardware Compaq ProLiant Application Software Accounting for Non-Profits (BlackBaud) Ticketing - VISTA Membership/Development - PledgeMaker Museum Store - CAM32 Audience Development/Perspective - ACT Payroll - ADP Email - Exchange 5.5 IO/TRIO - Collections Database Cafe POS - HSI Desktop Software MSOffice 2000 mail client - Outlook browser - IE virus - Symantec Corporate Edition This is what we have. If anyone has anyone questions, they can contact me. Like I mentioned in my earlier email, we are looking to solve the problem of communication issues between our different software programs. If anyone has any tips they can help us with pertaining to that, I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks much, Becky -Original Message- From: Weinstein, William [mailto:wweinst...@philamuseum.org] Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 8:53 AM To: mcn_mc...@listserver.americaneagle.com Subject: RE: IT Sig: Where do you go for ... Good morning everyone. A good burst of energy. I will try to keep it going. One of the behind the scenes discussions on the IT sig was the status of the last survey. It was decided the data was too old but that it might be valuable to post anyway. Maybe we can use the little push from this thread to get some new data. I would be happy to compile. Our environment is: about 410 Computers (Dell) about 10% Mac and the rest PCs with 10% of those laptops Cisco layer 2 switches Cisco Wireless AP in storage 3 Buildings One connected via multiple T-1s, One connected via T-1 and point to point wireless 2 Remote sites both connected through DSL and VPN 2 ISPs Patec provides 2 T-1s, USLec 1 T-1 Desktop OS Windows 2000 OSX 10.3 Server OS Primary/Secondary Domain Controllers WinNT 4.0 (don't laugh) Member servers Win2000 Server Server Hardware HP/Compaq Proliant HP/Compaq MSA1000 SAN HP/Compaq Application Software: Accounting - Paciolan (selection of new software in process) Ticketing - Paciolan (Same as above) Membership/Development - Raisers Edge 7.6 MSSQL Version Wholesale/Retail - CamData Gupta SQL version Volunteer Management - Volunteer Works Payroll - ADP Gupta SQL Version Email - Exchange 5.5 Collections Management - TMS 9.x MSSql Version Web Apps eMuseum - internal access to collections information for non curatorial staff Netsolutions - email campaigns for Membership and Development online donations for Development Public website is hosted by INetU Desktop Software MSOffice 2000 PCs MSOffice:Mac vX mail client - Outlook Browser - IE virus - Symantec Enterprise Spyware- XoftSpy This is of the top of my head, informal. Anyone who wants to add to the list can and I will enhance my answers to cover new topics. This list can help people target who to contact for info and help us begin to see where to look for resources we might want to share. Respond direct to me or to the list. Bill -Original Message- From: Goral, Becky [mailto:becky.go...@mam.org] Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 8:29 AM To: mcn_mc...@listserver.americaneagle.com Subject: RE: IT Sig: Where do you go for ... I am new to MCN and to non-profits so networking is key for me. Something like this is ideal. Any resources that I can share, I would be more than willing to do so. I would love to see more information about different software programs organizations are using. For example, our organization has ticketing software, a Cafe point-of-sale, as well as a museum store point-of-sale. None of these programs communicate with each other. Wouldn't it be nice if our customers could buy a gift card and have the ability to use in each area, ticketing, cafe and store? Somebody out there has to be using software like this, but who and where? Thanks and I am looking forward to this communication! Becky Milwaukee Art Museum -Original Message- From: Janice
Re: IT Sig: Where do you go for ...
Hello, In regards to the open source software: What challenges in particular are you facing? As far as digital image storage goes, here is what we have: 5.6TB (14 x 400GB) Xserve RAID connected to a Xserve G5 via dual 2Gb fibre channel lines. The Xserve is setup as a: file and image (via TCP/IP, Samba, Kerberos), web (Apache, webDav), mail (Postfix/Cyrus) and database server (MySQL). Server and RAID management software tools are included. Cost: a bit over $14,000 Storage can always be added by purchasing additional Xserve RAID systems and a fibre switch, interconnecting them to share/host files via the available Xserve server. Good luck, Tom Tom Arnautovic Collection Database/Imaging Specialist Crocker Art Museum 916-264-1176 smo...@toledomuseum.org 05/25/05 8:40 AM Toledo Museum of Art infrastructure: about 170 IBM Computers (we've had a high failure rate on the IBM desktops, are going to start purchasing Dell) 3 Macs and a few laptops Bay hubs and switches (installed in 1997) (we're starting to look at replacing our hub/switch infrastructure. Looking at CISCO, but not sure we can afford CISCO, so are looking at other brands as well) 4 buildings, with 1 more on the way (Glass Pavilion - opening Spring 2006) Desktop OS Mostly Windows 2000 - Will go to XP slowly Server OS Novell Netware 5.1 servers Many Windows 2000 application servers Server Hardware All IBM servers currently, but will be going to Dell rack mounted servers over time, as we are running out of physical space in our server room Application Software Blackbaud Financial Edge The Raiser's Edge SQL VISTA for docent and space scheduling Library - Spydus School registration - Aceware's Student Manager Museum Store - TAM (The Assistant Manager) - Lode Data Systems Payroll - ADP Email - Novell Groupwise 6.5 Argus - Collections Database Desktop Software MSOffice 2000 mail client - Novell Groupwise 6.5 browser - IE (and starting to use firefox in some cases) virus - Computer Associates Etrust Challenges: Open source software, electronic storage of digital images, keeping the bad guys out of our network, what to do with our Novell network. We also would like to start to consolidate our customer/visitor information into one system, as right now it is in many places. . . Sandy Moore Toledo Museum of Art --- You are currently subscribed to mcn_mcn-l as: tarnauto...@cityofsacramento.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-mcn_mcn-l-140575...@listserver.americaneagle.com --- You are currently subscribed to mcn_mcn-l as: rlancefi...@mail.wesleyan.edu To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-mcn_mcn-l-12800...@listserver.americaneagle.com
Re: Software Question
If you have some money to spare, take a look at FileMaker (http://store.filemaker.com/promos/apps_bundle.html?ovmkt=O5M3PJVLTCEPQGE0R6M8Q8GDNS) They have a promo running on their Application package, including Meetings, Tasks, Donations, and Work Requests (includes one copy of FileMaker Pro7) for $299. Good luck Tom Arnautovic Collection Database/Imaging Specialist Crocker Art Museum 916-264-1176 becky.go...@mam.org 04/19/05 6:45 AM Hello, I was wondering if anyone is using any type of software program to track/log exhibition tasks and schedules. For example, we are looking for something that includes which person is responsible for painting pedestals as well as a start and finish date for that task. We would also like to log when the art arrives, the installation and de-installation of it, who is hanging it, etc. Additionally, it should be able to include curators and curatorial assistants tasks related to the exhibition. To say the least we are looking for a software package that does a lot, but something to help get us a little more organized so that everyone knows what is being done and when as well as who is responsible for it. If anyone has any tips on anything good out there, it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks much, Becky --- You are currently subscribed to mcn_mcn-l as: tarnauto...@cityofsacramento.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-mcn_mcn-l-140575...@listserver.americaneagle.com --- You are currently subscribed to mcn_mcn-l as: rlancefi...@mail.wesleyan.edu To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-mcn_mcn-l-12800...@listserver.americaneagle.com
Re: Search for reliable web host
Thomas, I developed a site for a non-profit some time back using www.ipowerweb.com, and found them to be superb. Very responsive to inquiries and troubleshooting. Also, they give you a 30 day money back guarantee, so if you just want to try them out, you are not locked into a contract. Their control panel (where you manage your web space) is very intuitive and easy to use, and live web statistics are also available, as are database options, CGI support, SSI, etc. May not mean much to you, but if you run a dynamic site (Mambo for example) it makes the management much easier, and let you expand on the fly with shopping cart(s) or dynamic image galleries (Menalto's Gallery for example). Good luck, Tom Arnautovic Collection Database/Imaging Specialist Crocker Art Museum 916-264-1176 thomas.weyna...@pandora.be 01/10/05 12:20 PM Dear Listmembers, Apologies for access problems to Visual Media in the near past and for the underneath offline topic. Please reply directly to my personal e-mail: Thomas.Weynants@ blocked::mailto:thomas.weyna...@telenet.be telenet.be or tho...@visual-media.be Visual Media has encountered some technical problems during the past week. All hyperlinks are now repaired and updated! All 69, except egypt.html, existing pages are working again when typing the main url of the current server http://users.telenet.be/thomasweynants/; before the name-of-page.html Direct sub links, e.g. http://www.visual-media.be/photography.index.html http://www.visual-media.be/photography.index.html, in the browser addressline will no longer work. Please use e.g. http://users.telenet.be/thomasweynants/ http://users.telenet.be/thomasweynants/photography.index.html instead. However, the homepage (only) http://www.visual-media.be/photography.index.html http://www.visual-media.be/ still works with url forwarding and from their all subpages can be visited withouth problem! Sorry for this inconvinience, refresh your cache memory with the complete users.telenet url for each page. I welcome listmembers to advice me in finding a reliable, low prize, and easy to use server to host my web site in the future? Information about reliable free web statistics are welcome too. Many thanks in advance, Best regards, Thomas http://www.visual-media.be/photography.index.html http://www.visual-media.be/ http://users.telenet.be/thomasweynants/ http://users.telenet.be/thomasweynants/ --- You are currently subscribed to mcn_mcn-l as: tarnauto...@cityofsacramento.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-mcn_mcn-l-12800...@listserver.americaneagle.com --- You are currently subscribed to mcn_mcn-l as: rlancefi...@mail.wesleyan.edu To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-mcn_mcn-l-12800...@listserver.americaneagle.com
Re: Standards for Digital Masters
As I said, surrogates, not masters. Masters are un-cropped, first acquired digital images. Any corrections to the original digital image makes it a surrogate. Color corrections are necessary once you start making reproductions of the masters for print or online display. Those copies of the masters should contain any adjustment layers, because you do not want to go back to the digital master to do adjustments every time you get a request for a reprint, etc. In any case, the archiving of digital anything is a never ending process. Be ready to keep on top of the digital imaging arena for the foreseeable future. Formats change, new ones get adopted, support for outdated formats seizes, etc. Technology advances do not rest. Hope this clarifies the situation. Tom Arnautovic Collection Database/Imaging Specialist Crocker Art Museum 916-264-1176 rhow...@getty.edu 10/13/04 08:56AM The bigger the file size (70MB - 250MB is not uncommon) the better. In other words, the bigger the file the more information on the object is captured. Also, focus on one master format, i.e. TIFF is a very common format in this regard (do not compress the files) and if you apply color corrections on surrogates of the original scan, place the adjustments on layers (yes, TIFF now supports layers), rather than flattening the image to save file space. Tom, I would recommend against this; I assume you're referring to the layered TIFF that Photoshop (since v7) will output? These are virtually (if not completely) unsupported outside of Photoshop in some forms - they do keep a flattened version of the entire document for apps that don't support layers, but then you lose the main benefit (the layers)... but in my experience, the main benefit of layered TIFF from PSD is for using ZIP compression, which can really reduce the size of a complex layered document, and ZIP compression is also not well supported. In general, I wouldn't recommend keeping these as your masters, but they can be handy. PSD may be significantly larger for an equivalent layered file, but it's also much better supported, and understood - many folks still don't get that TIFF allows much more than a simple flat image. - R --- You are currently subscribed to mcn_mcn-l as: tarnauto...@cityofsacramento.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-mcn_mcn-l-12800...@listserver.americaneagle.com --- You are currently subscribed to mcn_mcn-l as: rlancefi...@mail.wesleyan.edu To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-mcn_mcn-l-12800...@listserver.americaneagle.com
Re: Standards for Digital Masters
Budgetary concerns were never mentioned in the original inquiry of the poster. akes...@netvision.net.il 10/13/04 11:03AM At 23:04 12/10/2004, Tom Arnautovic wrote: Get the highest possible digital capture and go from there. If your scanner maxes out @4000DPI, why bother scanning it at a lower resolution, or targeting a specific file size? Simple. Memory and budgetary limitations. Amalyah Keshet Head of Image Resources Copyright Management The Israel Museum, Jerusalem Tel +972-2-670-8874 Fax +972-2-670-8064 --- You are currently subscribed to mcn_mcn-l as: tarnauto...@cityofsacramento.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-mcn_mcn-l-12800...@listserver.americaneagle.com --- You are currently subscribed to mcn_mcn-l as: rlancefi...@mail.wesleyan.edu To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-mcn_mcn-l-12800...@listserver.americaneagle.com
Re: Standards for Digital Masters
Hello Amy, I managed various digitization projects in the past 6 years, and a good rule of thumb is to push the limits of your digital acquisition hardware. We scanned a multitude of source material (lantern slides, nitrate negatives, positives, 35mm, etc., or over 60,000 objects) and do not limit yourself to any size, be it measured in pixels, Mega Bytes, DPI, MP, etc. Leave yourself some room ;) Get the highest possible digital capture and go from there. If your scanner maxes out @4000DPI, why bother scanning it at a lower resolution, or targeting a specific file size? You can always produce a smaller size, but if a larger one is necessary you have to go back and handle the media source once again to recapture it for a bigger output size. The bigger the file size (70MB - 250MB is not uncommon) the better. In other words, the bigger the file the more information on the object is captured. Also, focus on one master format, i.e. TIFF is a very common format in this regard (do not compress the files) and if you apply color corrections on surrogates of the original scan, place the adjustments on layers (yes, TIFF now supports layers), rather than flattening the image to save file space. Whew, that was a lot. Well, if you have any other questions, please ask. Tom Arnautovic Collection Database/Imaging Specialist Crocker Art Museum 916-264-1176 astidw...@hillwoodmuseum.org 10/12/04 12:31PM I am in the process of reviewing and updating our standards for master digital files as we switch to a new collections management system. We have not entered the realm of direct digital capture and are scanning primarily from 4 x 5 transparencies. If this sounds like your museum, please let me know what resolution and/or pixel length you are scanning at and why you chose those numbers. All replies are greatly appreciated. Many thanks, Amy Stidwill Visual Resources Manager Hillwood Museum Gardens 4155 Linnean Avenue, NW Washington, D.C. 20008 (202) 243-3910 phone (202) 966-7846 fax astidw...@hillwoodmuseum.org --- You are currently subscribed to mcn_mcn-l as: tarnauto...@cityofsacramento.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-mcn_mcn-l-12800...@listserver.americaneagle.com --- You are currently subscribed to mcn_mcn-l as: rlancefi...@mail.wesleyan.edu To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-mcn_mcn-l-12800...@listserver.americaneagle.com
Re: time lapse photography
Dear William, Since the camera is going to be positioned outside and exposed to the elements, I would highly suggest an additional camera housing that protects the camera from the weather (cold, heat, sun, snow, wind, etc.) Since I work on Macintosh computers, I would like to point you to http://www.bensoftware.com/ss/. Here, the developer not only provides support for his software, but he also posts an enormous amount of information on what camera to choose, when, and how. His software supports a wide range of wired and wireless cameras that you can choose from (I would recommend wireless cameras since it gives you a greater flexibility of choosing a location and/or relocating the camera easily if the need arises. Another suggestion would be to use two or more cameras (the above software supports multiple cameras simultaneously) and capture the building process from multiple angles. If wireless is not an option for you, or if the computer running the SecuritySpy software is near by, you could use regular ethernet cabling to hook the cameras into a network router which in turn is connected to the SecuritySpy computer. Also, there is a wider variety of cameras available if you decide to go wired. Do not hesitate to contact me if you have further questions. Tom Arnautovic Collection Database/Imaging Specialist Crocker Art Museum 916-264-1176 --- You are currently subscribed to mcn_mcn-l as: rlancefi...@mail.wesleyan.edu To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-mcn_mcn-l-12800...@listserver.americaneagle.com
Re: vp debate
For closer analysis, the debate is available for free at Apple's iTunes music store. Tom Arnautovic Collection Database/Imaging Specialist Crocker Art Museum 916-264-1176 --- You are currently subscribed to mcn_mcn-l as: rlancefi...@mail.wesleyan.edu To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-mcn_mcn-l-12800...@listserver.americaneagle.com
Re: Hi
Richard - Any idea of when we will receive Conference info beyond what is currently on the web site? Mike - GO TO THE CONFERENCE!!! You will get to meet a lot of folks who are / were in your shoes! In the past two years I have Met a lot of nice folks who always seem willing to share their ideas and tell you both what has gone right, and what hasn't! Try to get there somehow! Tom McCarty Manager, IT The Speed Art Museum Louisville, KY mailto:tmcca...@speedmuseum.org -Original Message- From: Richard Rinehart [mailto:rineh...@uclink4.berkeley.edu] Sent: Monday, July 12, 1999 4:32 PM To: mc...@listserv.mcn.edu Subject: Re: Hi Hi, I have just joined the mailing list as well as Just started as systems Administrator for the Kimbell Art Museum. I hope this can be a usefull tool in learning how other museums are using their network as well as the internet. I am also hoping to learn what systems are being used for a veriety of application from accounting to memebership. Mike Warren Welcome Mike! This email list (and the MCN conference - see www.mcn.edu) are both good tools for learning and sharing experience; that's how I became involved in MCN. I look forward to talking with you. It's self-initiated so if you have some questions, any questions, just post them! Richard Rinehart Information Systems Manager Education Technology Specialist Berkeley Art Museum/Pacific Film Archive @ University of California http://www.bampfa.berkeley.edu/ President, Museum Computer Network, http://www.mcn.edu/
[MCN-L] Sound clip database on a Mac
You could try Filemaker, and use one of the provided templates to do the job. Very similar to Access. Holding (as in embedding files into the database) will not work in FileMaker, and you would not want to do that. A permanent storage space for the audio files would be a good start (local or networked storage. You could also use iTunes to build a repository of sound files. On Jan 31, 2007, at 7:12 AM, Rachel Wormsbecher wrote: Hi everyone. This is my first posting...I hope it works. Anyway, I need to build a database for a collection of oral histories that are being stored on a Mac. All I know how to use is Microsoft Access. Can anyone suggest a common database program for Macs that hold sound files well? Thanks, Rachel from Toronto. _ Be one of the first to try Windows Live Mail. http://ideas.live.com/programpage.aspx?versionId=5d21c51a- b161-4314-9b0e-4911fb2b2e6d ___ You are currently subscribed to mcn-l, the listserv of the Museum Computer Network (http://www.mcn.edu) To post to this list, send messages to: mcn-l at mcn.edu To unsubscribe or change mcn-l delivery options visit: http://toronto.mediatrope.com/mailman/listinfo/mcn-l
[MCN-L] collecting, consolidating and managing email addresses from patrons
Hi Patrick, Is your site based on a CMS or is it put together via various scripts tied into HTML pages? On Dec 29, 2006, at 8:57 AM, Patrick wrote: Hi folks, I've been tasked with putting together a plan for collecting, consolidating and managing email addresses from our patrons. We've implemented the more obvious collection points- web site, newsletter subscriptions, membership applications, e-commerce, etc.- but the challenge now is sorting through all these various email sources located in different places, matching them to existing email addresses, eliminating duplicates, cleaning the data, etc. We use parts of Raisers Edge to manage membership data but it sounds like overkill for this. I need to consolidate the various email address repositories, verify the data, eliminate any duplicates already in our membership database, and provide a means for editing/updating. Does anyone have any wisdom to share on this? Thanks in advance, and happy new year to all. Patrick Clancy Director of Information Technology The New York Botanical Garden __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ You are currently subscribed to mcn-l, the listserv of the Museum Computer Network (http://www.mcn.edu) To post to this list, send messages to: mcn-l at mcn.edu To unsubscribe or change mcn-l delivery options visit: http://toronto.mediatrope.com/mailman/listinfo/mcn-l
