Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 Truck SUV

2006-06-28 Thread Marshall Booth
Curt Raymond wrote: Yup, 90 miles a day. Analysis at ~5000 miles showed soot at .6% but grade had fallen to 40. I think I was sloppy and didn't get all the old conventional oil out, it was February, I was working outside, sue me. I took another sample when I changed at ~7300 miles, we'll see

Re: [MBZ] Do any shops in the NW do R12 A/C service anymore?

2006-06-28 Thread Mitch Haley
Curt Raymond wrote: Has anybody ever gotten a shop to use one of the alternate refridgerants? If I owned the shop, and I was set up for R12 reclaiming (I'd have to be in order to do R12-134a conversions) I'd suck out your R12 and replace it with whatever you wanted if you provided me with the

Re: [MBZ] Do any shops in the NW do R12 A/C service anymore?

2006-06-28 Thread Zeitgeist
Ok, so I stopped by the local outdoor store, but became confused by the dizzying array of propane/butane/isobutane etc. and beat a hasty retreat back into my car and a thumb-sucking fetal position. I thought I wanted straight isobutane, which they don't carry. There were some mixtures of all

Re: [MBZ] 9 blade fan

2006-06-28 Thread Jim Cathey
I see Rusty offers a 9 blade plastic radiator fan for the 123s, compared to the stock 6 blade aluminum one. Has anyone tried the 9 blade one to see if it offers any noticeable cooling improvement? Is it noisier? It's quieter. The SDL was forcibly upgraded when it got its

Re: [MBZ] Oil thread

2006-06-28 Thread Peter Frederick
M1 15W50 has greatly reduced the oil consumption in my BS Quantum new mower (now six or more years old). Runs like a champ, I change it every year or so... Peter

[MBZ] Tales

2006-06-28 Thread RELNGSON
Curt posted, in part:   Last month at camp Dad and I were getting out the lawnmower so we could mow where we were planning to plant trees If you are going to complete with Van Cleef with tales of your youth, or maybe last week, you are going to have to become much more verbose. His

Re: [MBZ] 9 blade fan

2006-06-28 Thread P. D. Ferguson
Jim, do you know if the 9 blade fan will fit the stock 123 clutch? Peter - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 7:18 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 9 blade fan

Re: [MBZ] 9 blade fan

2006-06-28 Thread Zeitgeist
Just as long as it doesn't sound like a late-'70's Datsun Z-car. Man, those fans sounded like a jet taking off...whaash Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler #22 (216k) '84 300D (214k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg

[MBZ] Replacing Vacuum Pump Driver

2006-06-28 Thread ned kleinhenz
Rusty is sending me a new injection timing device for my 606 engine because the vacuum pump cam of the old one is in bad shape. I've been fretting over the special tools and procedures needed to RR the injection pump as the shop manual says is requred to replace the injection timing device. But

[MBZ] A/C Stuff

2006-06-28 Thread Frederick Moir
Hi, Curt et al. I have a vacuum pump and guages, power and a driveway to use but very little experience with the new fangled freezy kids stuff Fred Moir Lynn MA Deez Doze An' Dat Diesulz - Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million

Re: [MBZ] Replacing Vacuum Pump Driver

2006-06-28 Thread Marshall Booth
ned kleinhenz wrote: Can the vacuum pump cam be replaced by just locking the FI pump shaft and backing out the left hand thread bolt in the center of the cam? Not according to the manual! They are not always correct though. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to

Re: [MBZ] Sudden loss of oil pressure

2006-06-28 Thread J.B. Hebert
Got home late tonight, so I didn't have time to put it up on ramps and check the sender and gauge. However, I did pull the new filter out and it was, unfortunately, fine. The stem O-rings were intact and pliable, and the top and bottom filter gaskets were in place. The oil canister was

[MBZ] [Fwd: 9 blade fan]

2006-06-28 Thread Striplin Admin account
Original Message Subject: 9 blade fan Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 09:47:18 -0500 From: P. D. Ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] I see Rusty has a 9 blade plastic radiator fan available for the 123s. Has anyone tried one in

[MBZ] [Fwd: Re: 1985 300CD Seat locking problem solved, sort of...]

2006-06-28 Thread Striplin Admin account
Original Message Subject:Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Seat locking problem solved, sort of... Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 13:09:28 -0400 From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[MBZ] [Fwd: Re: 1985 300CD Seat locking problem solved, sort of...]

2006-06-28 Thread Striplin Admin account
Original Message Subject:Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Seat locking problem solved, sort of... Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 13:36:47 -0400 From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [MBZ] Sudden loss of oil pressure

2006-06-28 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
What car are we talking about here? J.B. Hebert wrote: On my way into work today my low oil light came on. Oil pressure was fine, so I continued on another minute or 2 and the light went out. A few miles later I noticed that my oil pressure had started to fall. When it dipped below .5

Re: [MBZ] Sudden loss of oil pressure

2006-06-28 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
could be a sending unit problem J.B. Hebert wrote: Grrr... totally forgot to mention the car is a '95 E300D with 214,000 miles running on M1 5W40. At 12:18 PM 6/27/2006, you wrote: On my way into work today my low oil light came on. Oil pressure was fine, so I continued on another minute

Re: [MBZ] Do any shops in the NW do R12 A/C service anymore?

2006-06-28 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I am using autofrost, works great. You have to have a license to buy it though. Forget doing any AC work unless you have a vacuum pump and guages at the min. Curt Raymond wrote: Has anybody ever gotten a shop to use one of the alternate refridgerants? I'd like to use Autofrost but don't

Re: [MBZ] Sudden loss of oil pressure

2006-06-28 Thread Mitch Haley
I forgot, is this the E300? Do those things have piston cooling jets? Seems like 1995 was not a turbo year. If a cooling jet fell off, I wonder how much oil pressure would escape from the hole? Another possibility (on any engine) is loss of an oil galley plug. Happened to my Dad's 1973 Ford

Re: [MBZ] Sudden loss of oil pressure

2006-06-28 Thread J.B. Hebert
The '95 E300D (OM606). At 09:51 PM 6/27/2006, you wrote: What car are we talking about here? J.B. Hebert wrote: On my way into work today my low oil light came on. Oil pressure was fine, so I continued on another minute or 2 and the light went out. A few miles later I noticed that my

Re: [MBZ] Do any shops in the NW do R12 A/C service anymore?

2006-06-28 Thread Zeitgeist
Ok, went back to the outdoor store and bought up their supply of isobutane/propane mixtures (4 cans), but I still need to figure out the best way to On 6/27/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am using autofrost, works great. You have to have a license to buy it though. Forget

Re: [MBZ] Do any shops in the NW do R12 A/C service anymore?

2006-06-28 Thread Zeitgeist
[why the hell do I do that? I sent that out before I was done composing--idiot!] Uh yes, as I was attempting to pontificate...I'm trying to figure out the best way to tap into the cans. They're much wider and squatter than your regular freon can, so my tap won't apparently work. I don't want

Re: [MBZ] Gumball, was: FSM comic

2006-06-28 Thread OK Don
It's been too long - I'm going to have to rent it --- On 6/27/06, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What about the 'vette splitting in half? Did you know there was a hole there? The old guys in the Mercedes are great. Please drive at a rate befitting our age and status in life -Curt

Re: [MBZ] OM60X low-oil circuit board

2006-06-28 Thread OK Don
(MB content) I was able to use my basic (student) 301 to measure and verify the output pulse from the distributor sensor on the 117.985. On 6/27/06, David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: archer wrote: What would one of the old tube type in good working condition be worth? I have one but

Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 Truck SU

2006-06-28 Thread OK Don
I'm only driving 45 - 50 miles per day, about 50% interstate, and at 10,000 miles the soot was 0.5%. Mobile 15w50, Oklahoma --- On 6/27/06, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yup, 90 miles a day. Analysis at ~5000 miles showed soot at .6% but grade had fallen to 40. I think I was sloppy and

Re: [MBZ] 603 no start revisited.

2006-06-28 Thread OK Don
I don't remember if you've checked already, but what's the compression? Getting air into the cylinders? Sounds like you have fuel, what else can it be? -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've exhausted all the alternatives. Sir Winston

Re: [MBZ] Oil thread

2006-06-28 Thread OK Don
I HATE MOWERS/MOWING. On 6/27/06, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: M1 15W50 has greatly reduced the oil consumption in my BS Quantum new mower (now six or more years old). Runs like a champ, I change it every year or so... Peter -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK The Americans will always

[MBZ] 300SDL vacuum information

2006-06-28 Thread Brian Smyla
Can anyone point me to a site with information about the 300SDL vacuum system? I'm not getting enough vacuum from the check valve tap on the brake booster line to operate the other vacuum accessories reliably. All the service manuals I've been able to locate for the car are JUNK. Are there

Re: [MBZ] Replacing Vacuum Pump Driver

2006-06-28 Thread OK Don
Ah - but once you've figured out what has to be done, be sure to report back - adding that bit of knowledge to the collection --- It's a pain to be the first --- The best source(s) are the people on this list who have done the procedures before. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK The Americans

Re: [MBZ] 300SDL vacuum information

2006-06-28 Thread OK Don
Tried to take a picture for you, but I can barely see it with the radiator hose in the way. Yes - there are two ports - one for the booster, the other for the accessories. Mine (300SDL) wouldn't hold vacuum, and took quite awhile to generate vacuum after starting in the AM. I thought it might be

Re: [MBZ] 300SDL vacuum information

2006-06-28 Thread Marshall Booth
Brian Smyla wrote: Can anyone point me to a site with information about the 300SDL vacuum system? I'm not getting enough vacuum from the check valve tap on the brake booster line to operate the other vacuum accessories reliably. All the service manuals I've been able to locate for the car are

Re: [MBZ] 300SDL vacuum information

2006-06-28 Thread Jim Cathey
system? I'm not getting enough vacuum from the check valve tap on the brake booster line to operate the other vacuum accessories reliably. The only thing on the booster's tap is the brown line for the engine shutoff. Everything else comes off the secondary vacuum output line on the vacuum

Re: [MBZ] Do any shops in the NW do R12 A/C service anymore?

2006-06-28 Thread Jim Cathey
Uh yes, as I was attempting to pontificate...I'm trying to figure out the best way to tap into the cans. They're much wider and squatter than your regular freon can, so my tap won't apparently work. I don't want to buy an expensive stove, just to canniballize and use for my illicit purposes.

Re: [MBZ] A/C Stuff

2006-06-28 Thread Jim Cathey
I have a vacuum pump and guages, power and a driveway to use but very little experience with the new fangled freezy kids stuff Just dive right in and get some! http://cathey.dogear.com/efair.html http://cathey.dogear.com/cwair.html You will have fun. I recommend a good generic book on

Re: [MBZ] 9 blade fan

2006-06-28 Thread Jim Cathey
Jim, do you know if the 9 blade fan will fit the stock 123 clutch? No clue, sorry. -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] 9 blade fan

2006-06-28 Thread OK Don
Call Rusty and ask --- On 6/27/06, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jim, do you know if the 9 blade fan will fit the stock 123 clutch? No clue, sorry. -- Jim -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've exhausted all the alternatives. Sir

Re: [MBZ] 300SDL vacuum information

2006-06-28 Thread Desert Rat
Unless the doors,trunk and gas door is the problem then that is a different system commencing from a pump found in the spare tire well. On 6/27/06, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: system? I'm not getting enough vacuum from the check valve tap on the brake booster line to operate the

Re: [MBZ] Do any shops in the NW do R12 A/C service anymore?

2006-06-28 Thread Mitch Haley
Jim Cathey wrote: Until I found my expensive stove for cheap at Goodwill, I made a strap out of a coat hanger that I used, in conjunction with two small vise grips, to clamp the R12 can tap to the side of the can. How about a vise grip on the bottom rim of the can and a large hose clamp up

Re: [MBZ] Do any shops in the NW do R12 A/C service anymore?

2006-06-28 Thread Jim Cathey
How about a vise grip on the bottom rim of the can and a large hose clamp up above? Sure! I just didn't have a hose clamp that large, and it was quicker to flange one up out of wire than to go get one. Once I had it, then I didn't need the hose clamp anymore, so I never did go get one. --

Re: [MBZ] Oil thread

2006-06-28 Thread Curt Raymond
A broken connecting rod is no big deal, I got my Cub Cadet for $50 because it had thrown a rod, but throwing it out through the block is a much bigger event. My only suspicion is that the piston siezed suddenly and the rod started to bend so when it failed the pent up energy was enough for the

Re: [MBZ] Tales

2006-06-28 Thread Curt Raymond
This still pretty much is my youth, at least I keep telling myself that. Funny how turning 30 didn't really hit me until months later. I try, oh how I try, to cut back my stories. Somehow it works when I'm talking but when I'm writing, not so much... -Curt Date: Tue, 27 Jun

Re: [MBZ] Oil thread

2006-06-28 Thread Curt Raymond
Oaklahoma is pretty dry though right? Lotta dust while you mow if you haven't been watering? I like mowing, hate mowers. Any mower made in the last 20 years was made as cheap as possible. I need to finish the deck for my Cub Cadet, thats a real mower... The most fun mowing is taking

Re: [MBZ] SD TRANS QUESTION

2006-06-28 Thread Luther Gulseth
Transmission is shot. I'll give you $501. Dan Weeks [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On my 82 SD, I have a strange trans issue that shows up only after running a couple hundred miles, shutting down, then starting up again. On restart, the trans sometimes shifts late out of second, and very late

Re: [MBZ] 603 no start revisited.

2006-06-28 Thread dave walton
I had a trapped air problem in my S350 that I fixed by loosening the injector lines at the top of the injector, then cranking until fuel squirted out. -Dave Walton 94S350, 99E300 On 6/27/06, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1987 300 TD As you may remember, several list members have made

Re: [MBZ] 603 no start revisited.

2006-06-28 Thread Bill
Sounds like you're getting into oddball territory. I'd throw my hat in the ring for sucking air. On the 77 240D I acquired the PO had added a Racor fuel/water filter. The line from the device to the screen filter was a bit too tight and had developed a slight hole/tear. Not so much as to leak,

Re: [MBZ] 300SDL vacuum information

2006-06-28 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Well if you are not getting enough vacuum from the brake booster line your pump might not be putting out enough vacuum. First thing to do is to pull off an plug each seperate vacuum system to see if that is whats leaking. Such as the trans shifting part of it, then the climate control part.

Re: [MBZ] 300SDL vacuum information

2006-06-28 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Yea, when I got mine it would run everything all at once. Had low vacuum. I unhooked the lines to the passenger side as I said before and it helped. But replacing the pump is what was really needed as it was the old style pump. OK Don wrote: Tried to take a picture for you, but I can

Re: [MBZ] Oil thread

2006-06-28 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
you apparantly dont know much about Oklahoma. No, we dont live in the desert, no we dont have to fight off them injuns. There is not much out in western oklahoma but eastern ok is green and lush, with many scenic lakes and rivers and mountains. This part of the state is called green country

Re: [MBZ] SD TRANS QUESTION

2006-06-28 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
The 85 trans will still have the b2, unless its a california version 722.4, then it wont. In which case it wont last nearly as long as the tranny thats supposed to be in there because its a lighter duty tranny. Dan Weeks wrote: On my 82 SD, I have a strange trans issue that shows up only

Re: [MBZ] Sudden loss of oil pressure

2006-06-28 Thread J.B. Hebert
This is the E300. It is non-turbo, but does still have the piston cooling jets. However, I do not know as they can fall off. I think they are just a specific sized hole drilled in existing material, but I may be wrong. I have not detected any loss of oil anywhere, including into the

Re: [MBZ] Sudden loss of oil pressure

2006-06-28 Thread J.B. Hebert
The pan was off less than 20k miles ago, so unless something odd happened I can't imagine that much buildup would have occurred that quickly. Not that I'm dismissing the clocked screen, but I would be very surprised if that was the case. If the gauge checks out, the pan will be the next

Re: [MBZ] SD TRANS QUESTION

2006-06-28 Thread Jim Cathey
Also, I have recently noticed that the shifter sometimes will not go past N into R or P. Worn shifter bushings? Could there be a connection? Does this car have a rod to the transmission? Is it possible that bad mounts are causing enough displacement of the tranny that it's affecting the

Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 Truck SUV

2006-06-28 Thread Marshall Booth
Curt Raymond wrote: I mean I had 15w50 oil in it but it was apparently only a 40wt oil when hot. I expect thats thinning due to contamination from old oil leftover in the crankcase. I was also concerned that the Iron in the oil seemed a bit high. It was only the first oil change since I'd

Re: [MBZ] RIV sensor

2006-06-28 Thread Rusty Cullens
$300.00 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 4:01 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] RIV sensor 617 589 08 21 00 Mark Maturo Rusty Cullens