Re: [MBZ] OT: Psychological Insights Today

2007-01-24 Thread John W. Reames III
On Tue, 23 Jan 2007, David Brodbeck wrote: No, because I fear it might be a handicap if I ever want a career in upper management. Get it with a dark tint and a gold rim and convince everyone that its an ornament :P ('course you wont be able to SEE out of it as well then...) -j.

Re: [MBZ] New Arrival...and questions

2007-01-24 Thread Darrell W. Sigmon
Werner, this set up was only used on the 114/115 chassis, the filter housing was located down on the LS of the engine and consisted of a spring in the bottom of the housing to push the filter which was topped with a very fine disc filter that sat on top of the main filter. The disc could only

Re: [MBZ] Governer question - injection charge profile

2007-01-24 Thread OK Don
With shipping and handling, its $26.22 - still a bargain for an almost 500 pg. technical book. On 1/23/07, John W. Reames III [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 23 Jan 2007, John Robbins wrote: http://www.ece.msstate.edu/~jer99/mercedes/BoschHighlights.pdf Its on clearance for $10 !!! -j. --

[MBZ] R/C B-29 drops X-1

2007-01-24 Thread RELNGSON
www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtIL_VjBUGo

Re: [MBZ] Governer question - injection charge profile

2007-01-24 Thread John W. Reames III
On Tue, 23 Jan 2007, OK Don wrote: With shipping and handling, its $26.22 - still a bargain for an almost 500 pg. technical book. Yeah, agree. Better than $66.22! I ordered mine already! -j.

[MBZ] [OT] Am I the only one that finds this bone chilling?

2007-01-24 Thread John W. Reames III
http://baltimorechronicle.com/2007/011907Parry.shtml There is no expressed grant of habeas in the Constitution; there's a prohibition against taking it away, Gonzales said. Don't you LOVE tri-state logic? -j.

Re: [MBZ] 4 speed SLC

2007-01-24 Thread Bob Rentfro
Andrew used ilk! Sweet. Bob R - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 12:40 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 4 speed SLC Ebay should require a geographic location specific enough to

Re: [MBZ] FNULNU

2007-01-24 Thread Bob Rentfro
I guess FNULNU is one letter shorter than, John Doe. Bob R - Original Message - From: B Dike [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 2:43 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] FNULNU FNULNU = First Name Unknown Last Name Unknown It's some kind of police

Re: [MBZ] For Sale: Near flawless 14 Mercedes Rim (15 hole)

2007-01-24 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
The easiest thing to do is coat the tire with vaseline, paint the wheel, then simply wipe the vaseline off. Werner Fehlauer wrote: Andrew - we had a club member demonstrate how to easily mask the tire, by just letting a bit of the air out, and stuffing an old T-shirt or similar cloth under

Re: [MBZ] Anybody in the Colorado Springs Area?

2007-01-24 Thread Bob Rentfro
That's where MBCA HQ is, right? My cousin (Eric Cole) has a jazz radio show on Wednesday nights, I think, on the local NPR station. If you dig jazz, check it out Bob R. - Original Message - From: Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List

Re: [MBZ] [OT] Am I the only one that finds this bone chilling?

2007-01-24 Thread Lee Einer
John W. Reames III wrote: http://baltimorechronicle.com/2007/011907Parry.shtml There is no expressed grant of habeas in the Constitution; there's a prohibition against taking it away, Gonzales said. Don't you LOVE tri-state logic? No. I don't. Habeus Corpus is a right which was

Re: [MBZ] [OT] Am I the only one that finds this bone chilling?

2007-01-24 Thread Mitch Haley
Lee Einer wrote: Without habeus corpus, any one of us can be hauled off in the dead of night and disappeared for nothing more than having pissed off the powers that be. You mean like they do in the United States? Gonzales was one of the authors of that policy BTW. Excuse me while I go

Re: [MBZ] [OT] Radial Engines

2007-01-24 Thread Tom Hargrave
American industrial products that went boom upon delivery? Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 8:36 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes Discussion

Re: [MBZ] New Arrival...and questions

2007-01-24 Thread Werner Fehlauer
Thanks for the education - I hadn't been inside any M-B older than a '77 300D. Just another part of on-going learning! Werner - Original Message - From: Darrell W. Sigmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 7:40 PM

Re: [MBZ] [OT] Am I the only one that finds this bone chilling?

2007-01-24 Thread Werner Fehlauer
John - there's a whole lot of that kind of warped interpretation inside the beltway. The redeeming factor is that once you get 50 miles away from there, the common sense factor seems to go way up! Werner - Original Message - From: John W. Reames III [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

Re: [MBZ] For Sale: Near flawless 14 Mercedes Rim (15 hole)

2007-01-24 Thread Werner Fehlauer
Yes, but Vaseline isn't that nice to tire rubber, as I recall. Werner - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 9:23 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] For Sale: Near flawless 14 Mercedes Rim (15

Re: [MBZ] [OT] Am I the only one that finds this bone chilling?

2007-01-24 Thread Peter Frederick
Which action Gonzales has absolutely no problem with -- he's defended imprisonment without charges many times. All for good reasons, of course. Too much lawyering, I think, he seems to have forgotten how to read English. Peter

[MBZ] Porsche 962 at LeMans

2007-01-24 Thread RELNGSON
http://germancarscene.com/2007/01/22/scary-le-mans-962-video/ After watching this, scroll down a bit to Categories and click on Mercedes. RLE

Re: [MBZ] OT: Psychological Insights Today

2007-01-24 Thread Rich Thomas
I thought you were supposed to gaze INTO it? --R John W. Reames III wrote: On Tue, 23 Jan 2007, David Brodbeck wrote: No, because I fear it might be a handicap if I ever want a career in upper management. Get it with a dark tint and a gold rim and convince everyone that its an

Re: [MBZ] [OT] Radial Engines

2007-01-24 Thread Rich Thomas
Yeah, their warranties got voided pretty quickly. --R Tom Hargrave wrote: American industrial products that went boom upon delivery?

[MBZ] Blue-Tec press release

2007-01-24 Thread RELNGSON
OFFICIAL PRESS RELEASE Mercedes-Benz Blue-Tec: taking the lead in fuel economy and environmental compatibility • Mercedes-Benz offers the widest range of commercial vehicles with Euro 4 compliance (mandatory since October 2006) • More than 2 billion kilometres already

Re: [MBZ] [OT] Am I the only one that finds this bone chilling?

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[MBZ] 3.8L 126?

2007-01-24 Thread Kevin
Aside from the double roller timing chain (which appeared in 83, iirc) is there anything else I should know about these or beware of? Anything that starts to get expensive after a certain number of miles? How miserable of mileage do these beasts get? I see them pop up from time to time and am

Re: [MBZ] 3.8L 126?

2007-01-24 Thread Tom Hargrave
The double roller timing chain that came out in mid-83 is a plus. The earlier single roller chain is the one that tends to explode if you are lucky, you only bend 2 vaves. If you are in the States, you need to know that the the 126 body 380's were all grey market cars. Tom Hargrave

Re: [MBZ] 3.8L 126?

2007-01-24 Thread John Freer
Naw, the 380SE and SEL were US cars. Another benefit us they were designed to operate on regular grade gas. On 1/23/07, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The double roller timing chain that came out in mid-83 is a plus. The earlier single roller chain is the one that tends to explode if

[MBZ] OM 617 block water ingress damage

2007-01-24 Thread Peter Merle
After examining the block from my cracked head OM 617.912 engine a bit of corrosion is evident at the top of the block where water managed to get between sleeve and block. The engineering shop recommended I get a replacement block which I did do but did say that they could boreout the block and

[MBZ] Vacuum Pump dilemma

2007-01-24 Thread Peter Merle
My 300D vacuum pump rocker arm roller is badly pitted ( single pipe vaccum pump ) and am wondering whether to buy a rocker repair kit or the complete pump. Is it likely that the pistons will also fail soon? I'm not sure what milage this engine has done and was wondering how long the rockers arm

Re: [MBZ] 3.8L 126?

2007-01-24 Thread Tony Wirtel
The double roller timing chain that came out in mid-83 is a plus. The earlier single roller chain is the one that tends to explode if you are lucky, you only bend 2 vaves. If you are in the States, you need to know that the the 126 body 380's were all grey market cars. Tom Hargrave

Re: [MBZ] [OT] Am I the only one that finds this bone chilling?

2007-01-24 Thread John W. Reames III
On Tue, 23 Jan 2007, Lee Einer wrote: John W. Reames III wrote: http://baltimorechronicle.com/2007/011907Parry.shtml There is no expressed grant of habeas in the Constitution; there's a prohibition against taking it away, Gonzales said. Don't you LOVE tri-state logic? No. I

Re: [MBZ] [OT] Am I the only one that finds this bone chilling?

2007-01-24 Thread John W. Reames III
On Tue, 23 Jan 2007, Werner Fehlauer wrote: John - there's a whole lot of that kind of warped interpretation inside the beltway. The redeeming factor is that once you get 50 miles away from there, the common sense factor seems to go way up! *lol* yeah thats because COOP sites for DC can't

Re: [MBZ] OT: Psychological Insights Today

2007-01-24 Thread John W. Reames III
On Tue, 23 Jan 2007, Rich Thomas wrote: I thought you were supposed to gaze INTO it? Nope. It would be an evolutionary advantage for a mid/upper manager; they wouldn't bump into dangerous big objects (or walk off cliffs) that are in plain sight of someone who's head is squarely on their

Re: [MBZ] [OT] Am I the only one that finds this bone chilling?

2007-01-24 Thread Allan Streib
There is no expressed grant of habeas in the Constitution; there's a prohibition against taking it away, Gonzales said. Well -- um. The actual text from Section 9 of the Constitution is: The privilege of the Writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in Cases of Rebellion

Re: [MBZ] For Sale: Near flawless 14 Mercedes Rim (15 hole)

2007-01-24 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Doesnt really matter, you are only leaving it on the tire for a couple of minutes. Werner Fehlauer wrote: Yes, but Vaseline isn't that nice to tire rubber, as I recall. Werner -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro,

Re: [MBZ] 3.8L 126?

2007-01-24 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
The double chain came in 84. STill just keep eye on the chain though, be aware of any rattles when first starting it up. Kevin wrote: Aside from the double roller timing chain (which appeared in 83, iirc) is there anything else I should know about these or beware of? Anything that starts to

Re: [MBZ] 3.8L 126?

2007-01-24 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
What do you mean all the 380s were grey market cars? Tom Hargrave wrote: The double roller timing chain that came out in mid-83 is a plus. The earlier single roller chain is the one that tends to explode if you are lucky, you only bend 2 vaves. If you are in the States, you need to know that

Re: [MBZ] 3.8L 126?

2007-01-24 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
No, the 500SEL was available in 84 and 85. 380SEL was 81-83, 380SE was 84-85, 280's were all grey market. Tony Wirtel wrote: The double roller timing chain that came out in mid-83 is a plus. The earlier single roller chain is the one that tends to explode if you are lucky, you only bend 2

Re: [MBZ] For Sale: Near flawless 14 Mercedes Rim (15 hole)

2007-01-24 Thread Allan Streib
Can the bundt pan wheels be sand/bead blasted with good results? Allan Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Doesnt really matter, you are only leaving it on the tire for a couple of minutes. -- 1983 300D 1966 230

Re: [MBZ] 3.8L 126?

2007-01-24 Thread Jim Cathey
How miserable of mileage do these beasts get? Can't speak for the 126, but in the 107 my (sample of one) 560 gets one or two MPG _better_ than a friend's (sample of one) 380, and is a whole lot more fun to drive. Models one year apart. Go figure. On (rare) occasion I've gotten 20 MPG in my

Re: [MBZ] [OT] Am I the only one that finds this bone chilling?

2007-01-24 Thread Peter Frederick
They aren't conservatives by any stretch of the imagination, they are radical right-wing Monarchist, most succinctly. Honesty and integrity are foreign concepts in those quarters, all that counts in being in charge and not overseen by anyone. Peter -Original Message- From: John W.

Re: [MBZ] [OT] Am I the only one that finds this bone chilling?

2007-01-24 Thread andrew strasfogel
It's getting harder to find even reliably Republican politicos who are on board with this policy. On 1/24/07, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They aren't conservatives by any stretch of the imagination, they are radical right-wing Monarchist, most succinctly. Honesty and integrity

Re: [MBZ] [OT] Am I the only one that finds this bone chilling?

2007-01-24 Thread John W. Reames III
On Wed, 24 Jan 2007, Allan Streib wrote: Well -- um. The actual text from Section 9 of the Constitution is: The privilege of the Writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in Cases of Rebellion or Invasion the public Safety may require it. So, it sounds to me like

Re: [MBZ] [OT] Am I the only one that finds this bone chilling?

2007-01-24 Thread Lee Einer
John W. Reames III wrote: On Wed, 24 Jan 2007, Allan Streib wrote: Well -- um. The actual text from Section 9 of the Constitution is: The privilege of the Writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in Cases of Rebellion or Invasion the public Safety may require it.

Re: [MBZ] Porsche 962 at LeMans

2007-01-24 Thread LarryT
An amazing video of the Porsche at Lemans - looks like mid 80s before the Mulsanne was broken up by a couple of chicanes. He was probably doing nearly 250mph when he took one hand off the wheel! Thanks for sharing that - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil

Re: [MBZ] [OT] Am I the only one that finds this bone chilling?

2007-01-24 Thread LarryT
Allan wrote:the language in the Constitution and the Bill of Rights is generally written as *limiting* what the government can do with regard to those rights, not as *granting* the rights themselves, which exist a priori. Sadly, the FedGovCo has been taking more and more rights originally

Re: [MBZ] [OT] The Imperial Presidency

2007-01-24 Thread Werner Fehlauer
A good example of where our tax dollars are being wasted: This morning, on a drive from NJ to DC, I had occasion to drive by Newcastle County (Wilmington) Airport, and lo and behold, there sat Air Force 1 (747B) in all its glory. Seems the Prez had to make a visit to duPont Labs on the

Re: [MBZ] [OT] The Imperial Presidency

2007-01-24 Thread Lee Einer
Werner Fehlauer wrote: A good example of where our tax dollars are being wasted: This morning, on a drive from NJ to DC, I had occasion to drive by Newcastle County (Wilmington) Airport, and lo and behold, there sat Air Force 1 (747B) in all its glory. Seems the Prez had to make a visit

[MBZ] spin on filter interchangable from 87 300TD to 79 240D?

2007-01-24 Thread Kevin J. Slater
I have a need to replace the spin-on fuel filter in the 240D. I have one on hand that I must've ordered for my 87 300TD. Can anyone tell me if their interchangable between the 2 motors? ...Kevin

Re: [MBZ] Blue-Tec press release

2007-01-24 Thread Werner Fehlauer
This press release was obviously originally in German, as the translation seems to be the product of a well school-trained translator that isn't really conversant in every day American English. But the gist of the article is further evidence that we in the USA continue to be on the short end,

Re: [MBZ] For Sale: Near flawless 14 Mercedes Rim (15 hole)

2007-01-24 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I dont know, never done that. I just clean them up real good before painting. Allan Streib wrote: Can the bundt pan wheels be sand/bead blasted with good results? Allan Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Doesnt really matter, you are only leaving it on the tire for a couple of

Re: [MBZ] [OT] The Imperial Presidency

2007-01-24 Thread Rich Thomas
Has the airport been closed for a couple hours while he gets a haircut? --R Werner Fehlauer wrote: A good example of where our tax dollars are being wasted: This morning, on a drive from NJ to DC, I had occasion to drive by Newcastle County (Wilmington) Airport, and lo and behold, there sat

Re: [MBZ] spin on filter interchangable from 87 300TD to 79 240D?

2007-01-24 Thread Darrell W. Sigmon
Kevin, I think that the 240D one does not have a seal at the top where it screws onto the housing where as the 300TD has a seal. DWS Kevin J. Slater wrote: I have a need to replace the spin-on fuel filter in the 240D. I have one on hand that I must've ordered for my 87 300TD. Can anyone tell

Re: [MBZ] [OT] The Imperial Presidency

2007-01-24 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Hell, if I were the Prez, I would have a whole bunch of old Benzes in the back, I would have probably hopped in a 115 or something and just drove over there. Werner Fehlauer wrote: A good example of where our tax dollars are being wasted: This morning, on a drive from NJ to DC, I had

Re: [MBZ] spin on filter interchangable from 87 300TD to 79 240D?

2007-01-24 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
no Kevin J. Slater wrote: I have a need to replace the spin-on fuel filter in the 240D. I have one on hand that I must've ordered for my 87 300TD. Can anyone tell me if their interchangable between the 2 motors? ...Kevin ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For

[MBZ] [OT] Am I the only one that finds this bone

2007-01-24 Thread Glenn M. Brown
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Re: [MBZ] [OT] The Imperial Presidency

2007-01-24 Thread David Brodbeck
Rich Thomas wrote: Has the airport been closed for a couple hours while he gets a haircut? Ah, yes...some Clinton urban legends just never die. FAA records showed almost no commercial flights were delayed by Clinton having his hair cut while Air Force One was on the ramp (one air taxi

Re: [MBZ] For Sale: Near flawless 14 Mercedes Rim (15 hole)

2007-01-24 Thread Marshall Booth
Allan Streib wrote: Can the bundt pan wheels be sand/bead blasted with good results? I've seen near perfect results following simply paint stripping and repainting (color plus clear coat) if the wheel isn't seriously damaged/gouged. Blasting will cost more and the results are seldom much

Re: [MBZ] spin on filter interchangable from 87 300TD to 79 240D?

2007-01-24 Thread Marshall Booth
Kevin J. Slater wrote: I have a need to replace the spin-on fuel filter in the 240D. I have one on hand that I must've ordered for my 87 300TD. Can anyone tell me if their interchangable between the 2 motors? NO! The filter for OM61x and OM60x engines are different sizes. Marshall -- Marshall

[MBZ] OT Come on guys, polish up those Benz blocks

2007-01-24 Thread Rich Thomas
Who would not want a Benz table in their abode? If someone will send me a block, I'll make one. I'll put it in the house right after the divorce. --R http://www.roverklubben.se/v8tablee.html

Re: [MBZ] [OT] The Imperial Presidency

2007-01-24 Thread Peter Frederick
Gore's involvment with the Internet was when he was a Senator and instrumental in getting the legislation passed to create ARPANET, the original military and research institution network. He really was one of the fathers of the internet, not because he was a computer geek but because he same

Re: [MBZ] [OT] The Imperial Presidency

2007-01-24 Thread David Brodbeck
Peter Frederick wrote: Gore's involvment with the Internet was when he was a Senator and instrumental in getting the legislation passed to create ARPANET, the original military and research institution network. He really was one of the fathers of the internet, not because he was a computer

Re: [MBZ] Process for installing 30TD's rear suspension struts - THANKS

2007-01-24 Thread Euan
This section of the service manual doesn't directly show what needs to be done, but there's enough information to be useful. http://www.bruckmann.com/32-501.pdf Marshall Thanks indeed Marshall, Richard and other respondents. I appreciate the advice Sorry about the slow acknowledgement

[MBZ] Anyone want a fine 220d?

2007-01-24 Thread ts
If you are interested in a very good 1972 220D, call me Car is a daily driver with 190K miles, only 45K on a MB engine rebuild. Original owner/family Very little rust. Recent mechancical inspection by independ MB shop Super nice well maintained car. Located in Mobil AL area, non Katrina Call

[MBZ] E300Dt question

2007-01-24 Thread John W. Reames III
I have two, so I can a-b them. Anyhow, One of them has a stumbling issue at highway speeds; I'm suspecting EGR issues, whether its a sticking valve or pressure converter (there is also a pressure converter for the wastegate...). It also runs rough with no load, like an occasional miss. This

Re: [MBZ] E300Dt question (more info I forgot)

2007-01-24 Thread John W. Reames III
I should have added that the car has not thrown a DTC yet, presumably because the issue is not bad enough for the computer to notice. The stumble is every 3-5 mins on the highway at ~2000-2600rpm I suppose I could do a connect/datasream dump on it while it is being driven to see what kinda

Re: [MBZ] Anyone want a fine 220d?

2007-01-24 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
price [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you are interested in a very good 1972 220D, call me Car is a daily driver with 190K miles, only 45K on a MB engine rebuild. Original owner/family Very little rust. Recent mechancical inspection by independ MB shop Super nice well maintained car. Located

Re: [MBZ] [OT] The Imperial Presidency

2007-01-24 Thread Paul Nelson
It's a big ol' waste. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 12:49 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] [OT] The Imperial Presidency Hell, if I were the Prez, I would have a

Re: [MBZ] [OT] The Imperial Presidency

2007-01-24 Thread Zoltan Finks
I'm not going to talk about whether I love or hate the current President, but I agree with Werner on this one at least - huge waste of resources and time. Ya gotta live it! I'm glad he talked so much about energy and oil dependence, but now start living it! Yes, I know he needs a certain level

Re: [MBZ] [OT] The Imperial Presidency

2007-01-24 Thread Rich Thomas
Man the Pres couldn't be rollin around in old Benzes, them is furrin rides, be givin off the wrong idea. Gotta be a big Caddy or a Town Car or a CV or sumpin like that, Deetroit iron. Maybe with some dub spinners yo? Stylin all the way. --R