Wed, 19 Sep 2007 12:24:25 -0500
Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Quick Mercedes trivia questions
The 3 point system was not mandated by the Feds until years later, so
once again, in reference to 3 point belts, MB was AHEAD of the pack again.
You mean OpenOffice? :) www.openoffice.org
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'87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case
'85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) BioBeast
'82 300CD (166 kmi)
'82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold
'85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine
Quoting LarryT [EMAIL
Did you check to see if the windings might be shorted to ground?
It looks like the center of the field winding might be, each
slip ring measures in the 5-9 ohm range to frame ground.
I'm guessing that's not good?
-- Jim
How close are the ohm readings? Could the winding be center tapped to
From: archer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Did you check to see if the windings might be shorted to ground?
It looks like the center of the field winding might be, each
slip ring measures in the 5-9 ohm range to frame ground.
I'm guessing that's not good?
-- Jim
How close are the ohm readings? Could
Me, yes; her, no. I have failed as an MB parent...
BillR
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From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sep 19, 2007 10:32 PM
To: billr [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] CarFax, please
billr wrote:
At this point she is
It looks like the center of the field winding might be, each
slip ring measures in the 5-9 ohm range to frame ground.
I'm guessing that's not good?
How close are the ohm readings? Could the winding be center tapped to
ground or someplace else? (Just guessing.)
It's _possible_, but I fail
Why does the 2 stoke diesel not exist in passenger cars ? Are the
emmisions too high?
Peter
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2 strokes are not very efficient the emissions are too high. Also, they
tend to have a very narrow power band.
Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
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Sent: Thursday, September 20,
Ok, so who is that? Got a list?
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From: Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 10:27 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] presale: 300TE IowaQ
Many thanks to: Phillip, Mak, Mitch, Jim Cathey, Jim Friesen, and anyone I
missed for your help on the A/C. Just happened to get good prices on 7.5
and 35 mfd. capacitors from an A/C guy and tried them. Both the fan and
compressor work, but the control unit doesn't turn on the compressor.
You don't need anything fancy to control the excitation voltage. I've
seen everything from a diode and a resistor, to a microprocessor board
with fuzzy logic that also controls the throttle. Here is a basic
troubleshooting guide:
http://utterpower.com/Trouble.htm
-Dave Walton
On 9/20/07, Jim
Robert Bigham wrote:
My 1976 Ford pickup (build date November 1975) has lap belts only...
I feel sort of naked sometimes driving it.
In Michigan, getting pulled over every 15 minutes would bring your
average speed down to bicycle levels.
Now that you mention it, my dad's '73 F100 only
Now, if we could only domesticate cats
Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
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Subject: [MBZ] OT: Moose
Wonko the Sane wrote:
Everyone who is anyone will be there. Except Mitch -- still don't know about
him. And one should be there won't be because of a scheduling conflict.
I became less likely yesterday when a muscle spasm took my back out.
The muscle should be too weak to spasm in a couple
No MB content, but given our preoccupation with Bullwinkle
http://news.bbc.co.uk/player/nol/newsid_700/newsid_7002100/7002119.stm?bw=bbmp=wmasb=1news=1ms3=54
or
http://tinyurl.com/2ugg5p
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There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics.
Don't know about the wagon, but the sedan got the M104 in 1993.
Gary
1995 E320
On 9/19/07, James Zavesky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Nope 1994
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archer wrote:
Germany built a three cylinder two cycle car,
Who did that, DKW? NSU/Auto Union/Audi?
The Saab had an oil measuring cup in the gas cap, I think you were supposed
to put regular 30W motor oil in it.
Mitch.
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From: Peter Merle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Why does the 2 stoke diesel not exist in passenger cars ? Are the
emmisions too high?
Peter
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Germany built a three cylinder two cycle car, a few of which were around
after WW-2. Saab
They were not diesel
Peter
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Sent: 20 September 2007 15:06
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Subject: [MBZ] Why no 2 stroke diesels
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From: Peter Merle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Why does the 2 stoke diesel not
Two stroke in general never really took off in the car segment.
The disadvantage of 2 stroke Diesels is that they need a supercharger to
make em work. Why design a complicated 2 stroke engine when it is far
easier to build a four stroke.
Petrol two strokes don't need a supercharger and are
FYI - I have a 15kw China Genset and get 15 ohms between the rings on
the rotor. I show no reading (infinite resistance) between the rotor
winding and ground.
-Dave Walton
On 9/20/07, dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You don't need anything fancy to control the excitation voltage. I've
You don't need anything fancy to control the excitation voltage. I've
seen everything from a diode and a resistor, to a microprocessor board
with fuzzy logic that also controls the throttle. Here is a basic
troubleshooting guide:
http://utterpower.com/Trouble.htm
Thanks, I'd already found
Kaleb - Don't have your address on this computer. Do you still have Dan's
123LWB?. Guess I should also ask if you have a good vehicle for my daughter
and 3 kids [two in car seats[ for @ $3500? I'm thinking transport could be a
problem though.
BillR
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From: billr
billr wrote:
Do you still have Dan's 123LWB?.
I know he's still got a picture of it:
http://okiebenz.com/MVC-003S.JPG
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On that diagram, F1-F2 is the winding in the Rotor. All the U points
and the two windings labeled 3 are the primary windings in the
housing that give you 110V each, or 220V in series with a center tap,
just like power from the utility. Z1 - Z2 is a winding in the housing
that is used only for
Thats one of those cars I wish I would have kept. Damn.
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From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1987-Mercedes-300-TE-turbo-Diesel-Wagon_W0QQitemZ230173028146QQihZ013QQcategoryZ6330QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Not mine, no affiliation, ect.
Rick Knoble
'85 300 CD
'87 190 DT
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lol. Well. I like it. He is offering me the 420S for my price. That trips my
interst.
Bill
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From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sep 20, 2007 11:28 AM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fw: Re:
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From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
archer wrote:
Germany built a three cylinder two cycle car,
Who did that, DKW? NSU/Auto Union/Audi?
The Saab had an oil measuring cup in the gas cap, I think you were supposed
to put regular 30W
Hans Neureiter wrote:
My blower fuse (25A) blows after a few hours of ACC operation, faster
if fan is run on high.
I suspect a bad blower motor, but is it? How about the pre-resistors
or the blower control?
Can I supply + battery V directly to the motor and see what the amps are?
The fuse
Howdy -
Can't figure out how to search the archives and I must have lost the email
with the instructions but I recall someone having instructions for building
an inexpensive Oil Sucker made from Home Depot parts.
Does anyone have that info? If so, I'd really appreciate it.
Thanks!!
Larry T
http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
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From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 11:52 AM
Subject: [MBZ] Oil Sucker Instructions
Howdy -
Google cerlist diesel and you'll find a 3cyl 85hp 2 cycle diesel was used in
the Jeep forward control series at one point in the late '50s and early '60s.
Cerlist apparently claimed that each cylinder of their engine could make 25hp
(I dunno why the 3 in the FC Jeep was 85hp). Supposedly they
HOMEMADE /$2 TOPSIDER/OIL SUCKER
(This method of oil removal by suction works only if oil dipstick tube goes
to lowest point in oil pan, as in a Mercedes. Oil below bottom of dipstick
tube can't be removed by this method without sticking an oil evacuation tube
down the dipstick tube to bottom of
Here's my version
http://www.constructivity.net/oilsucker.htm
--R
LarryT wrote:
Howdy -
Can't figure out how to search the archives and I must have lost the email
with the instructions but I recall someone having instructions for building
an inexpensive Oil Sucker made from Home Depot
The car has developed an exhaust leak
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John Robbins wrote:
The car has developed an exhaust leak
Lets try again (somehow managed to mash a keyboard shortcut)
The car has developed an exhaust leak on the flex pipe... Since I don't
have a welder, and don't want to replace the whole thing took it to a
shop to get it replaced.
really? No kidding
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Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 3:28 PM
Subject: [MBZ] 300D 2.5 Exhaust
The car has developed
Uh, nooo. I think maybe they are talking about the cat thats in the 87's.
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Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 3:32 PM
Thanks Rich!!
Also thanks to Wilton Kaleb!
Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)
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Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil
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really? No kidding
insert banned response here
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I don't know about ceramic in there, but given what a pain it would be
to try and weld that thin old flex, and that it wouldn't likely last
more than a week, I broke down and bought the new pipe section when
faced with that problem.
---Robert
John Robbins wrote:
John Robbins wrote:
Robert Tara Ludwick wrote:
I don't know about ceramic in there, but given what a pain it would be
to try and weld that thin old flex, and that it wouldn't likely last
more than a week, I broke down and bought the new pipe section when
faced with that problem.
Aren't you able to get a
There were LOTS of 2-stroke diesels made, the most famous being the
detroits. They were THE heavy diesel engine for marine and heavy
vehicle use for decades in this country. THe engine was modular,
availalbe from 2 cyl to 12 cyl (maybe 16, I donno) versions. The most
popular was the
archer wrote:
Germany built a three cylinder two cycle car,
Who did that, DKW? NSU/Auto Union/Audi?
The Saab had an oil measuring cup in the gas cap, I think you were
supposed
to put regular 30W motor oil in it.
Mitch.
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DKW, I'm pretty sure.
Gerry
Very high emissions and very poor milage.
2-stroke diesel technology hit a dead end about 30 years ago, anything
still around is a left-over remnant. The combination of low
compression, inability to scavenge well, and reduced expansion
capability doomed the concept. The only advantage is low
No more two-strokes allowed in the US -- everything is gonna be
four-stroke from now on out. Horrible emissions.
Peter
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archer wrote:
Germany built a three cylinder two cycle car,
Who did that, DKW? NSU/Auto Union/Audi?
The Saab had an oil measuring cup in the gas cap, I think you were
supposed
to put regular 30W motor oil in it.
Mitch.
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DKW, I'm pretty sure.
that is used only for powering the rotor. You don't need a special
winding and can power the rotor from one of the primary windings - but
you have to lower the voltage a lot and there is enough current that
you need a regulated switching power supply, or some kind of big-ass
resistor.
No that is not quite right, apparently the 6/71 numbers mean that it
makes 6 horsepower and has 71 oil leaks :-)
Dan Weeks wrote:
There were LOTS of 2-stroke diesels made, the most famous being the
detroits. They were THE heavy diesel engine for marine and heavy
vehicle use for decades in
Umnh, no the 2 stroke Diesel concept is alive and well.
http://www.greencarcongress.com/2006/05/a_lightweight_v.html
http://people.bath.ac.uk/ccsshb/12cyl/
http://www.aopa.org/pilot/features/future0008.html
http://www.2si.com/2si_Industrial.htm
http://www.mandiesel.com/
However in the medium
A two-stroke has a definite cool factor to it.
I can still remember driving my first MIL's two-stroke Saab (93 I think,
help me out here Chip) in the early 70s, and at the time it was a well-used
vehicle.
Four on the column, shifted from 3rd to 4th at 30 mph going downhill.
It just radiated (as
No that is not quite right, apparently the 6/71 numbers mean that it
makes 6 horsepower and has 71 oil leaks :-)
Completely wrong. It's a decibel rating, the / was meant
to try to hide the decimal point!
-- Jim
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So did I - it wasn't that expensive, and I only had to do the job once.
I broke down and bought the new pipe section when
faced with that problem.
---Robert
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There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics.
-Benjamin Disraeli
'90 300D, '87
The plane in which I flew at Cape Cod did 120 db at takeoff power. Some
young chick from OSHA showed up one afternoon and wanted to take
measurements. I put her in my seat (radio) and cranked up the engines. We
sort of BROKE her meter (needle wrapped around the right side stop). I did
ask her if
IIRC, the flat rate time for a major overhaul of the Saab engine was 8
hours. There was a time when the 3 cyl. Saab engine with a bit of
tuning was popular in a Lotus 11 chassis.
On 9/20/07, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A two-stroke has a definite cool factor to it.
I can still
That would be the engine -- three cylinders, two-cycle, 20 horsepower.
But more fun than a man should have with his pants on.
D.
On 9/20/07, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
IIRC, the flat rate time for a major overhaul of the Saab engine was 8
hours. There was a time when the 3 cyl. Saab
my dad had a saab dealership in albuquerque in the mid 60's and picked up a
65 Saab 96 for my mom which she drove until the early 80's. Lots of
memories of that car.
saw this on youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXVRdSbKDT8
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Oroville, WA
1985 300SD
1982 300TD
I remember it as having around 36 HP - same as the 1200 VW engine. It
sounded like a Singer sewing machine at idle.
On 9/20/07, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That would be the engine -- three cylinders, two-cycle, 20 horsepower.
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Norman, OK
There are three kinds of
There is a section where the Sprinter is running on two wheels.
http://www.spiegel.de/videos/
Look down the list of videos for Crashtest. It's about eight down
right now
I don't understand a word of it, but it's still fun to watch.
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Norman, OK
There are three kinds of lies:
The original Sonett had the 3 cyl. 2 cycle engine. I owned at Sonett
III, '74, similar to this one - http://tinyurl.com/3ca7p5 . It was a
very fun car. Would have been more fun with more power though.
On 9/20/07, Rory [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
my dad had a saab dealership in albuquerque in the
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