Re: [MBZ] Quality of the 190

2007-12-09 Thread Zoltan Finks
Thanks, I want to believe in our little 190. We sure like it, and despite its 269k mi. it runs like new. It's weird how nice it runs. I am a bit disappointed with the materials that make up the interior (obvious exception being the MBTex). But then the same applies to our 240. Brian

Re: [MBZ] I'm iced up!

2007-12-09 Thread Mitch Haley
When was your last fuel fill? Before or after Labor Day? If it has mostly winter fuel in it, I wouldn't think 10-20F would be a problem (unless there is water in the fuel). You can probably use a hair dryer in the intake as a replacement or supplement to the GP system. Mitch.

Re: [MBZ] cleaning all day

2007-12-09 Thread John Robbins
Wonko the Sane wrote: How does the garage look? I'm sure it still has the floormats! ;) John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change

Re: [MBZ] OT: How much does it cost to build a garage?

2007-12-09 Thread John Robbins
Thanks guys for all the info! It looks like $20 a square foot for a nearly finished traditional construction (12' height, insulation, etc), and significantly less for a metal building. Depending on the neighborhood I have no problems with a metal building. How easy are they to insulate

Re: [MBZ] 124 fogs as more tail light

2007-12-09 Thread tom savage
OK Don wrote: How do you get a bare chassis with a uni-body car? Well, you get a bare unibody, though MB calls it a bare chassis. (The F is for fahrgestell, or chassis.) Half a roof, no rear doors, no fuel door, no trunk lid - just the minimum to keep the car from folding on itself. Tom

Re: [MBZ] Quality of the 190

2007-12-09 Thread M.Affzaal.Khan
Does it still feel solid and tight at this mileage? mak I want to believe in our little 190. We sure like it, and despite its 269k mi. it runs like new. It's weird how nice it runs. I am a bit disappointed with the materials that make up the interior (obvious exception being the MBTex).

Re: [MBZ] Quality of the 190

2007-12-09 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Its not really the mechanicals that are cheap, its just the trim and stuff that is cheap. The door panels, dash, things like that. As others have said, they are usually not maintained like they should be either. Hendrik Fay wrote: What exactly is the problem with them in your experience?

Re: [MBZ] cleaning all day

2007-12-09 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
uhh, not so good Wonko the Sane wrote: How does the garage look? On Dec 8, 2007 4:50 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have spent all day throwing crap away, picking crap up etc. The house is a pit. I have spent a great part of it cleaning out my office. For those who

Re: [MBZ] I'm iced up!

2007-12-09 Thread Mitch Haley
Wonko the Sane wrote: I put in 1/4 tank (to top it off) last week but I don't think they had shifted to the winter mix at that point. Winterized stickers pop up on Michigan pumps in early September usually. Have been driving the 190E so I haven't paid attention to the diesel pumps this year.

Re: [MBZ] I'm iced up!

2007-12-09 Thread Wonko the Sane
Went out and tried to start after I posted my last email. Car fired right up -- perhaps the heat from the block heater thawed whatever was frozen. ... Immediately drove to the fuel station and topped off (5.6 gallons) with 70/30 mix, plus dumped in the other half bottle of PowerService. ... I am

Re: [MBZ] I'm iced up!

2007-12-09 Thread Jim Cathey
If I'd had a glow plug failure, would I have seen a pre-glow light at the dash? (asking, curious) Possibly, it depends on the nature of the failure. I forget what your system looks like, is this the b**ized parallel plugs on a series system? With that you could lose all but one GP and

Re: [MBZ] I'm iced up!

2007-12-09 Thread Allan Streib
Yeah, same with mine. Allan On Dec 8, 2007, at 11:34 PM, Peter Frederick wrote: Something's not right -- my 300D starts reliably down into the single digits (at least, the old one did, don't know about the new one, hasn't been that cold yet). ___

Re: [MBZ] trap oxidizer cleaning

2007-12-09 Thread Aleph93
The Italian tuneup seems to be the best. After a trip I took the manifolds off with the CAT, and found it completely clean. If just driven around town, it does start to bog down and run bad. Rev it up, on a nice hill. The car will be happier. Rob '85 300D CA Costa Mesa, CA == Luther wrote:

Re: [MBZ] I'm iced up!

2007-12-09 Thread Wonko the Sane
I put in 1/4 tank (to top it off) last week but I don't think they had shifted to the winter mix at that point. Probably have mostly #2 diesel with a little bit leftover of biodiesel (just B-2), plus half a bottle of PowerSource. ... I am beginning to think water has accumulated in the primary

Re: [MBZ] I'm iced up!

2007-12-09 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
My 140 diesel fired right up no problem right after the light went out, and ran smooth as silk. Wonko the Sane wrote: Went out and tried to start after I posted my last email. Car fired right up -- perhaps the heat from the block heater thawed whatever was frozen. ... Immediately drove to the

Re: [MBZ] OT: How much does it cost to build a garage?

2007-12-09 Thread Rich Thomas
BestBuy has that HG design software for $40. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] I'm iced up!

2007-12-09 Thread OK Don
So did my 300D 2.5 - but then the temp is only down to 28F here -- warm compared to points north --- On Dec 9, 2007 10:53 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My 140 diesel fired right up no problem right after the light went out, and ran smooth as silk. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman,

[MBZ] I'll be gone for awhile

2007-12-09 Thread Peter T . Arnold
Although I'm CURRENTLY Benzless, I still lust after a perfect 240D manny Tranny. Right now, I'm focused on another round of surgery that will have me down for a few weeks. Stomach Gall Bladder this time... That being said, I will try to figure out how to become inactive tomorrow. I do enjoy

Re: [MBZ] I'll be gone for awhile

2007-12-09 Thread Peter Frederick
Youch! Makes me having bits of glass dug out of my arm very very minor! At least they do laproscopic surgery these days, still no fun but at least they don't slice you wide open any more. Good luck! Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see

Re: [MBZ] Quality of the 190

2007-12-09 Thread EDWARD DENNIS
Hi all, I did have every valve adjusted. # 23 intakes preloaded slightly. +45c and -45c specs 0.20mm and 0.45mm and 0.10mm 0.35mm were located on a decal placed on the pass side of the core support. No more shaking of of the highway at idle and less smoke all around. I also changed the

[MBZ] Iced up

2007-12-09 Thread wilton strickland
About 20 yrs ago, late on a VERY cold for here 5-degree F Sunday morning, I filled up my 80 240D with #2 just before hitting I-85 in Charlotte, NC, enroute to our home 3 1/2 hours to the East in Goldsboro, NC. After about 20 minutes of my usual (for then) 75 MPH in the left lane, the car VERY

Re: [MBZ] I'll be gone for awhile

2007-12-09 Thread E M
Wishing you a speedy recovery, and may you find the keys to that 240D you wish for under your Christmas tree this year. Hurry back soon! Best regards, Ed 300E On 09/12/2007, Peter T. Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Although I'm CURRENTLY Benzless, I still lust after a perfect 240D manny

Re: [MBZ] I'll be gone for awhile

2007-12-09 Thread Sunil Hari
if you want a sh***y 4-speed 240D, I have one for you - rusty but mechanically sound! On Dec 9, 2007 8:09 PM, E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wishing you a speedy recovery, and may you find the keys to that 240D you wish for under your Christmas tree this year. Hurry back soon! Best regards,

Re: [MBZ] I'm iced up!

2007-12-09 Thread John M McIntosh
On Dec 8, 2007, at 6:05 PM, Wonko the Sane wrote: It is cold. Currently +9F outside. Well 30F here, balmy. However I was pleased to see on my fluke meter this am all glow plugs on the 83 measured 0.5 ohms. Starts nicely... Well I *was* looking for an excuse to buy a nice ratcheting wrench

Re: [MBZ] I'll be gone for awhile

2007-12-09 Thread dave walton
Hurry back. And thanks again for the 87 SDL. Nice car! -Dave Walton On Dec 9, 2007 6:36 PM, Peter T. Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Although I'm CURRENTLY Benzless, I still lust after a perfect 240D manny Tranny. Right now, I'm focused on another round of surgery that will have me down

Re: [MBZ] I'll be gone for awhile

2007-12-09 Thread Bill Ringgold
Peter - best of luck with the surgeries. Sounds like this is all to familiar for you. I trust you will be up and about by the holidays. Blessings - BillR -Original Message- From: Peter T.Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: 12/9/07 6:36 PM

Re: [MBZ] [OT] Iced up Vette

2007-12-09 Thread JFreezn
Wilton's story reminded me of an icing up that occurred around Christmas of 1962. We were stationed in Vallejo, CA for 6 months of Navy Nuc school (class of 62-4) and decided to visit my family in Alhambra, CA. My wife and were driving our only car, a 54 Corvette with a heavily modified

Re: [MBZ] [OT] Iced up Vette

2007-12-09 Thread Peter Frederick
The pre-heater thermostat in my old Dodge Aires broke on a trip home from Sault Ste. Marie in the winter about 15 years ago, and the carb froze. Same symptoms -- throttle stuck -- except that when I got it free to exit the interstate, the carb was so clogged up with ice that only the

Re: [MBZ] I'll be gone for awhile

2007-12-09 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
Take care, Peter. I will keep my eyes out for that perfect stick 240D. My bother just gave me one for my birthday, so I know how desirable they are. Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 215K miles. 1979 240D- auto -250K + miles (FOR SALE) 1990 300D 2.5t 150K miles Wickford, RI

Re: [MBZ] I'm iced up!

2007-12-09 Thread John Robbins
John M McIntosh wrote: On Dec 8, 2007, at 6:05 PM, Wonko the Sane wrote: It is cold. Currently +9F outside. Well 30F here, balmy. However I was pleased to see on my fluke meter this am all glow plugs on the 83 measured 0.5 ohms. Starts nicely... You guys don't want to know how warm it

Re: [MBZ] I'm iced up!

2007-12-09 Thread Wonko the Sane
Don't forget -- I lived in Jax FL before moving to Iowa! On Dec 9, 2007 8:55 PM, John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John M McIntosh wrote: On Dec 8, 2007, at 6:05 PM, Wonko the Sane wrote: It is cold. Currently +9F outside. Well 30F here, balmy. However I was pleased to see on my

Re: [MBZ] I'm iced up!

2007-12-09 Thread John Robbins
Wonko the Sane wrote: Don't forget -- I lived in Jax FL before moving to Iowa! How on earth did you end up in Iowa? I don't understand why people still live there... I sure couldn't handle it! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list

Re: [MBZ] I'm iced up!

2007-12-09 Thread Wonko the Sane
This is where Debbie grew up. Much more sane pace of life than Jax has. Or other places I've lived: NYC, DC, etc. On Dec 9, 2007 9:16 PM, John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wonko the Sane wrote: Don't forget -- I lived in Jax FL before moving to Iowa! How on earth did you end up in Iowa?

Re: [MBZ] I'm iced up!

2007-12-09 Thread OK Don
Come south, young man, come south. We're only getting ½ inch of ice tonight. On Dec 9, 2007 9:20 PM, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is where Debbie grew up. Much more sane pace of life than Jax has. Or other places I've lived: NYC, DC, etc. On Dec 9, 2007 9:16 PM, John Robbins

Re: [MBZ] I'll be gone for awhile

2007-12-09 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sun, 09 Dec 2007 18:36:12 -0500 Peter T. Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Although I'm CURRENTLY Benzless, I still lust after a perfect 240D manny Tranny. Right now, I'm focused on another round of surgery that will have me down for a few weeks. Stomach Gall Bladder this time... Ugh.

Re: [MBZ] I'm iced up!

2007-12-09 Thread Robert Rentfro
I often miss the more sane pace of the Midwest. Bob R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wonko the Sane Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 8:20 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] I'm iced up! This is where Debbie grew up. Much

Re: [MBZ] More light in instrument clusters

2007-12-09 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Fri, 7 Dec 2007 22:23:28 -0800 Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, you shamed me into trying. The wife has been bitching about the Chicken Wagon's dim lights for awhile now... A few dabs of Shoe Goo hold the light pipe covers back on just fine! Aha! (But I didn't have any Shoe Goo

Re: [MBZ] I'm iced up!

2007-12-09 Thread Wonko the Sane
I would gladly take a foot of snow (Iowa) instead of a quarter inch of ice (Dallas, Atlanta, etc.). Of course, in Iowa we sometimes get both. In closely-spaced storms. On Dec 9, 2007 9:39 PM, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Come south, young man, come south. We're only getting ½ inch of ice

[MBZ] Our Cars ROCK! GPS

2007-12-09 Thread Robert Rentfro
Spent the weekend in L.A. in a rented Gran Prix. I hated the lack visibility to the sides and the back. It was like riding around in a chopped Merc or something. It was terrible. I like being able to see what is around me. I can't even imagine what driving one of those Magnums would be like. On

Re: [MBZ] I'll be gone for awhile

2007-12-09 Thread Wonko the Sane
What? You never heard of notebook computers and wireless? They work really well from a recovery bed ... and personal experience here has shown they work really well from the couch during a good football game. :-) On Dec 9, 2007 5:36 PM, Peter T. Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That being

Re: [MBZ] Our Cars ROCK! GPS

2007-12-09 Thread Rich Thomas
I got a Garmin Nuvi, it has traffic reports and all kinds of other stuff, was kinda pricey but a fun and useful gadget. THe cheaper ones have smaller screens and fewer additional features, depending on what you want/need that sorta drives your choice. I think the Garmins get about the best

Re: [MBZ] I'm iced up!

2007-12-09 Thread Rich Thomas
Was 80F here in Htown today, a wonderful sunny warm afternoon for our Ultimate game. I don't know how I ever survived up north for most of my life. --R Wonko the Sane wrote: I would gladly take a foot of snow (Iowa) instead of a quarter inch of ice (Dallas, Atlanta, etc.). Of course, in

Re: [MBZ] I'm iced up!

2007-12-09 Thread OK Don
Even with this little bit of ice we made the news --- http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22173398/ On Dec 9, 2007 10:32 PM, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Was 80F here in Htown today, a wonderful sunny warm afternoon for our Ultimate game. I don't know how I ever survived up north for most of

Re: [MBZ] I'm iced up!

2007-12-09 Thread Kevin Kraly
Was 80F here in Htown today, a wonderful sunny warm afternoon for our Ultimate game. We've got 34F and snow flurries here in Hillsboro, what a day for breaking in the new RC engine in my Mega Baja Bug. At least I don't have to worry about it overheating. Mercedes content: I wish I could get

Re: [MBZ] I'm iced up!

2007-12-09 Thread OK Don
I'm glad you qualified your statement with pace - or I'd have to take issue about how sane we are --- On Dec 9, 2007 9:54 PM, Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I often miss the more sane pace of the Midwest. Bob R. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn

Re: [MBZ] I'm iced up!

2007-12-09 Thread Wonko the Sane
We moved from Florida to Iowa in part because we missed seeing the seasons. Christmas lights (all white) in palm trees detracts somewhat from the traditional Christmas spirit. Quite frankly, we grew wear of wearing shorts year round. Does a body good to shovel snow from time to time. Gotta get a

Re: [MBZ] Our Cars ROCK! GPS

2007-12-09 Thread Hendrik Fay
Reminds me of the story of the elderly German gentleman who drove into a lake because the GPS ordered him to go that way. Anyway those things have come down in price somewhat, I saw a unit for under 200 Oz beans in our equivalent of wal mart. Hendrik who still uses the map book but might get a

Re: [MBZ] Our Cars ROCK! GPS

2007-12-09 Thread John M McIntosh
I think it was a river, and a ferry. He missed the point of the ferry and drove down the ramp into the river. I've a garmin (older) but they shipped me a 2007 map in Oct which seems quite accurate, certainly had all the new roads in Edmonton that were missing from the 2005 version. A friend

Re: [MBZ] More light in instrument clusters

2007-12-09 Thread Jim Cathey
Aha! (But I didn't have any Shoe Goo ...) Heretic! SWMBA reports that the modified dash lights are nearly tolerably bright now. Also that the replaced tire has cured the weird shimmy/wobble. I'll say, the tire's tread line deviated something like 1/2 from true! The used Hankook studded snows

[MBZ] Neighbor dodged a bullet

2007-12-09 Thread Jim Cathey
The neighbor up the hill who has been involved in a complicated acquiring of a somewhat thrashed 560 SL backed out of the deal. The seller wanted him to sign two bills of sale, one for the true price ($5750) and the other for $1000. Turns out he spent a few years in jail for fraud as a co-owner