My wife and I figured out that the breaking point pertaining to our 190D is
about $3.85 per gallon. At that price it is equally economical to drive our
20 - 22 mpg Honda CRV.
Of course this is with the 190 getting 32 on the highway. It has been
getting about 34. And now that I have the thermostat
Yeah. You know, I think next time I place an order with Rusty I'll order a
spare wiper blade - not just the refill. And I'll carry it in the car. I'm
really thinking of the trouble a wiper going out could cause.
This reminds me of how with my dearly departed Saab 84 900 I actually
superglued the
Well it will come a day when there will not be real actors, they will
all be computers.
Loren Faeth wrote:
Computers work for less money and are much less temperamental and
difficult to deal with than real actors and actresses. Movies of the
future will have animes, not actors in them
Well, then there is the fact that now they just remake everything.
Dukes of Hazzard, Amityville Horrory, The Time Machine, War of the
Worlds, I could go on and on, thats just what popped into my head right
off the bat.
Loren Faeth wrote:
Amen Last movie I went to wuz star wars II. Last
You're supposed to suspend disbelief when watching movies ---
(I know, it's harder every year).
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Norman, OK
There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics.
-Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain
'90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
Curt wrote: http://nh.craigslist.org/car/597945983.html - Snook's new ride?
That is a nice 98. I think the seller is wrong about the transmission. One of
the technicians at the Olds dealership I worked at had two of these. He kept
two spare injection pumps around. He swore that they had no
Alex C. wrote:
I didn't think 124 wheels would fit over the brakes on a 116/126/107/etc.
without spacers, but Snook says they will, so what do I know. (Or maybe he has
126 wheels on a 124?)
I don't know if all 124 wheels will fit a 126 without spacers. But, the 124
wheels that I got off of a
I saw a car like that in Houston a year or so ago, I think it was a
Panamericana (?) racer -- was like an old 190, someone found a pic of
it. It looked indestructible.
--R
Mitch Haley wrote:
The 2007 race video has an old Benz in it, in fact it's the first
car you see. Looks like a 60ish
Or sugar beets. Aparently back in the '70s there was a big movement to grow
sugar beets in Maine. They quit because it was cheaper to grow them in places
with bigger fields like Idaho.
I did a job once at a tv station in Boisie near a sugar beet processing plant.
The station manager told me
As the question states. I got some wheels to sell.
-Rolf
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At what price for gas though? Diesel should start coming down in the next
couple months as demand for heating fuel plummets.
Gas should start increasing as the summer driving season starts to pick up.
-Curt
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 01:17:56 -0700
From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re:
On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 01:17:56 -0700 Zoltan Finks
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My wife and I figured out that the breaking point pertaining to our 190D
is about $3.85 per gallon. At that price it is equally economical to
drive our 20 - 22 mpg Honda CRV.
Of course it also depends upon the price of
By 81, the Olds diesel was a good engine.
And I understand why your friend kept 2 pumps around. The engine uses a
rotary pump. The pump will go 100,000's of miles on the highway but 50,000
city miles will wear out.
I owned a 81 Pontiac Bonneville with the Olds diesel. It was one of the best
cars
Serious? We need to talk then.
On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 17:52:38 -0600, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have something like that
Luther wrote:
A wrecked/blown engine '90-91 560SEL with a good grey interior.
Luther
On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 13:30:36 -0600, Christopher McCann [EMAIL
the ex wife drove over a fire hydrant in a 190E. in retrospect, i can't
remember whether she tore the hydrant clear off or just knocked it down
On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 9:16 AM, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Curt wrote: http://nh.craigslist.org/car/597945983.html - Snook's new
ride?
Why not? Kaleb does.
Thanks,
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Subject: [MBZ] Can we list fs items in here?
As the question
I happen to like the VNT/VGT technology. The big truck 2003 Cummins ISX engine
started to use them and they are SWEET. No turbo lag, TONS of boost. I'd love
to try and fit one under the hood of an OM603
Luther
On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 12:29:50 -0600, Rolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Unless
SEL at PNP is blue interior.
Chris
Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Serious? We need to talk then.
On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 17:52:38 -0600, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
I have something like that
Luther wrote:
A wrecked/blown engine '90-91 560SEL with a good grey interior.
Luther
On Thu,
Luther wrote:
I happen to like the VNT/VGT technology. The big truck 2003 Cummins
ISX engine started to use them and they are SWEET. No turbo lag,
TONS of boost. I'd love to try and fit one under the hood of an
OM603
That 400HP OM603 uses a GT37 turbo off of the 6.0L Powerstroke. I
Christopher McCann wrote:
Also, the thing probably won't even be LSD since they tend, seemingly, to
need rebuilt every 50K mi to 100K mi. That would be the next step.
My 2.3-16v totally failed the drive test. One wheel on grass, one on
gravel, didn't even scuff the gravel. 213,000 miles, no
Mitch Haley wrote:
My 2.3-16v totally failed the drive test. One wheel on grass, one on
gravel, didn't even scuff the gravel. 213,000 miles, no idea if it's
got the original clutches.
Does it really cost $1k to rebuild? I think Dave M. said the parts were
$100, but there was some stupid
I read the entire thread that you gave me the link to yesterday and that is
exactly the conclusion I came to. Also, the thing probably won't even be LSD
since they tend, seemingly, to need rebuilt every 50K mi to 100K mi. That would
be the next step.
Chris
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On 14/03/2008, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You're supposed to suspend disbelief when watching movies ---
(I know, it's harder every year).
It's supposed to be the other way around. The movie is supposed to be good
enough to make us suspend our disbelief. Most of the new stuff is
Might not even have the original differential.
Thanks,
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I replaced the glued tow-hook cover, it looks good. I then pulled out
the shifter surround and refreshed my memory, there are two Becker
plugs for the rear speakers I'd put in there to be disconnected when
the JVC is in place. So I did that. Since I was there I popped the
bottom off of the
It's easy to make massive HP for a 1/4 mile. It's a little more difficult to
make massive HP for an hour run.
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it's always been the case that most films are formula crap made to appeal to
enough of the lowest common denominator to make lots of money. and it has
always been the case that some good films are made despite this model.
go see the good films. skip the dukes of hazard remakes.
On Fri, Mar 14,
Luther wrote:
I happen to like the VNT/VGT technology. The big truck 2003 Cummins ISX
engine started to use them and they are SWEET. No turbo lag, TONS of boost.
I'd love to try and fit one under the hood of an OM603
I've got a low mileage 2005 E320CDI turbo sitting around here
Mitch Haley wrote:
I've got a low mileage 2005 E320CDI turbo sitting around here somewhere.
Dealer idiots replaced it under warranty, but it didn't fix the car.
Mauri the Finn tells me it gets very inefficient above 250hp. (came
out of a 217hp car). I figure 250hp just gets a 602 into the
John Robbins wrote:
If I can find someone to build manifolds, I have a GT37 I want to put on
my wagon. :)
I saw a detailed web page on building turbo exhaust manifolds out of iron
pipe and elbows. You can buy weldable pipe from places like McMaster Carr,
already beveled on the ends for arc
Mitch Haley wrote:
I saw a detailed web page on building turbo exhaust manifolds out of
iron pipe and elbows. You can buy weldable pipe from places like
McMaster Carr, already beveled on the ends for arc welding.
I really don't have the time, desire, equipment, or garage to learn how
to weld.
John Robbins wrote:
How is that one controlled? I imagine it is electrically actuated.
Yep, it's got a bazillion pin computer interface connector on it.
I would so love to have a PIC computer built for it, with a couple
of knobs in the cockpit to set max boost in first gear and otherwise.
For me, the answer would be to swap cars for one with the turbo. My 76 300D
isn't likely to be improved by my
messing about with it. There used to be kits to put a turbo on the non turbo
diesels but I think Marshall frowned
on the idea. I also think it would hardly be worth my effort when there
John Robbins wrote:
Does it really cost $1k to rebuild? I think Dave M. said the parts were
$100, but there was some stupid expensive tool you needed.
I think he later said that the parts were about double what he originally
thought. And that would have been when the euro was still
Tom Hargrave wrote:
It's easy to make massive HP for a 1/4 mile. It's a little more difficult to
make massive HP for an hour run.
That 400HP car is a daily driver. Typically, there aren't many places
in a daily commute that you can use 400HP ;)
Maintaining speed on the highway uses the same
That is brilliant. I have a few rust spots on the wifes wagon and will
use this method. It should be noted that removing the battery cables is
probably a good idea here :)
-Rolf
Jim Cathey wrote:
I replaced the glued tow-hook cover, it looks good. I then pulled out
the shifter surround and
That 400hp car is the guys daily driver :) They limit it to 400NM iirc
as 600NM as that is about the stress level of crank/rods.
-Rolf
Tom Hargrave wrote:
It's easy to make massive HP for a 1/4 mile. It's a little more difficult to
make massive HP for an hour run.
Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
A good friend chipped up his PowerStroke (7.3L) to add about 150hp.
At about 50Kmi, while going to get groceries, his wife put a rod threw the pan.
The $9,000 mistake she made {Panic, kids with her, on main drag of town, 14
qts of oil on the ground, Fire Dept not happy} was to have it towed to
Want to sell that turbo? Once of the ongoing threads at STD is VNT
control with analog inputs. With the 85 and later diesels you get a
rack, rpm, boost and pedal position from analog devices. I've looked
into actuators, voice coils are the way to go, lots of power and
completely linear.
I've looked into sugar beets. They potentially make a very high yield of
ethanol per acre of crop. But beets only store for a few months. So
economically, they are difficult because beets would require a high capital
investment. Beets require either an ethanol plant 6X the size of a
comparable
Rolf wrote:
I had also looked at the CC servo unit but I do not believe it can put
out enough power OR act fast enough but it would make for a nice OEM
looking solution.
The cruise control actuator is STRONG. The only problem is that you
need to maintain tension on it (in the same matter as
R A Bennell wrote:
For me, the answer would be to swap cars for one with the turbo. My 76 300D
isn't likely to be improved by my
messing about with it. There used to be kits to put a turbo on the non turbo
diesels but I think Marshall frowned
on the idea. I also think it would hardly be
On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 8:15 AM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
it's always been the case that most films are formula crap made to appeal to
enough of the lowest common denominator to make lots of money. and it has
always been the case that some good films are made despite this model.
John Robbins wrote:
The cruise control actuator is STRONG.
If you use a CDI Benz turbo, you already have the perfect actuator.
I just don't know how to drive it. No pinout diagram, and I'd
probably be in over my head trying to program a PIC to run it.
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Too bad Quaife doesn't make a drop-in
for the 190E like they do for the M3. I wonder how hard it is to
put a BMW diff in a MBZ?
Like I said before, I could swear I remember Dave posting a link to a
Japanese site that sold
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A good friend chipped up his PowerStroke (7.3L) to add about 150hp.
At about 50Kmi, while going to get groceries, his wife put a rod threw the
pan.
There was one brand of chip that went way too far on timing advance and
did that, much sooner if you combined the
Alex Chamberlain wrote:
Like I said before, I could swear I remember Dave posting a link to a
Japanese site that sold very reasonably priced drop in LSDs of some
kind (Quaife? Torsen?)for the 124. Has anyone actually asked him?
http://500e.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3959
that's exactly what biases it. the bad movies do not survive. the good
ones are shown over and over and studied and commented on. it is easy to
watch citizen kane and learn more about it's greatness every time we hear
peter bogdanovich say i remember one time when orson was living in my
Rolf wrote:
That is brilliant.
http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/index.html
I highly recommend the Chicken Wagon Frankenheap sagas.
John
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On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 9:21 AM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Alex Chamberlain wrote:
Like I said before, I could swear I remember Dave posting a link to a
Japanese site that sold very reasonably priced drop in LSDs of some
kind (Quaife? Torsen?)for the 124. Has anyone
Makes since to me that they did not respond, particularly if it’s a business
- it's 6 PM in the UK right now.
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You had a Humvee under the hood? My understanding is that the server
unit was a spinning motor with an magnetic clutch?
-Rolf
John Robbins wrote:
Rolf wrote:
I had also looked at the CC servo unit but I do not believe it can put
out enough power OR act fast enough but it would make for a
Rolf wrote:
You had a Humvee under the hood? My understanding is that the server
unit was a spinning motor with an magnetic clutch?
It was a project for work... The clutch engages/disengages the motor,
and it is a standard brushed DC motor. Basically, you engage the
clutch, and run the motor
leslie nielson used to do the thing where he shot some guy with an assault
rifle off a tower at 150 yards from the hip with his snub nose .38. really
summed up the nonsense of all the shootouts you saw on tv and in films
On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 2:41 PM, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi
Hi Kaleb,
Couldn't agree more! Everytime I see someone outrun an explosive blast I
laugh out loud. *Someone* who is directing those scenes has not concept of
how a explosion really acts. The shock forces move at a rate measured in
thousands of feet per *second* - yet we see people run down
I've done that.
--R
Gary Hurst wrote:
leslie nielson used to do the thing where he shot some guy with an assault
rifle off a tower at 150 yards from the hip with his snub nose .38. really
summed up the nonsense of all the shootouts you saw on tv and in films
We may need to recalculate, but I was thinking it was an interval of some
$.40 or so between gas and diesel when we figured it.
Brian
On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 7:08 AM, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 01:17:56 -0700 Zoltan Finks
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My wife
Buy it up, I'll drive it out to you.
Any guesses on the fuel economy? I speculate something like a 116 SD, mid 20s...
-Curt
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 08:16:25 -0500
From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [MBZ] Olds diesels was Re: Craigs list finds
To: Mercedes Discussion List
HOLD ON JUST A SECOND there perfessor... Did you just do what I think you did?
I'd love to see a picture of this.
I've got a couple spots that have rusted through the paint and the thought of
sanding down to bare metal just makes me sad. Building a little sconce out of
modeling clay and
Rolf wrote:
Ya that is what I had been looking at. According to Lance, the amount of
pressure that is needed is more or less equal to that of the max boost
setting. How fast were you able to get it to react?
Depending on how big the wastegate is (pressure x area kinda thing), I
don't think it
Why is that? Just curious, I've been thinking it'd be cool to put a 350 diesel
into an S truck but that would probably see quite a few highway miles.
Is it because of lower speed running or stopping and starting?
-Curt
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 09:13:03 -0500
From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ya that is what I had been looking at. According to Lance, the amount of
pressure that is needed is more or less equal to that of the max boost
setting. How fast were you able to get it to react?
-Rolf
John Robbins wrote:
Rolf wrote:
You had a Humvee under the hood? My understanding is that
Curt Raymond wrote:
Is it because of lower speed running or stopping and starting?
I think Roosa Master pumps just suck, and it's probably a matter of engine
hours. Fewer minutes/revs per mile in top gear. The good news is they
used to be half the cost to rebuild of Bosch. Don't know if that
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The problem is that piston melting pressure can occur before the system
can react. Voice coils are millisecond response times.
I think I will take a crack at using the CC motor again. It is just to
conveniently placed and looks awfully OEM.
-Rolf
John Robbins wrote:
Rolf wrote:
Ya that is
Rolf wrote:
The problem is that piston melting pressure can occur before the system
can react. Voice coils are millisecond response times.
I have confidence that the CC actuator can react just as fast as a
normal wastegate actuator.
Where are you going to get a voice coil actuator?
John
They have, at least once, maybe twice.
Remember also that Jamie and Adam are two of the guys behind alot of those
crazy movie effects so they know what it takes to achive them.
I ran into Adam (almost literally) once in a restaurant in San Francisco. He
was with his kids so I didn't disturb
Sounds to me that Pi r squared!
At 03:16 PM 3/14/2008, you wrote:
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Make one if I have to. Linear drivers are about the easiest thing in the
world to make. I did look online at a variety of them though.
-Rolf
John Robbins wrote:
Rolf wrote:
The problem is that piston melting pressure can occur before the system
can react. Voice coils are millisecond
Loren, is that some sort of circular arguement?
Randy
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] It's Pi Time on Pi Day
Sounds to me that Pi r squared!
you wrote me that Pi r squared
No, no, no pi are round, cornbread are square ---
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There are companies that coat pistons with ceramic that will help resist
melting.
Luther
On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 14:44:01 -0600, Rolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The problem is that piston melting pressure can occur before the system
can react. Voice coils are millisecond response times.
I
Did you just do what I think you did? I'd love to see a picture of
this.
Didn't take one, unfortunately. The positive wire has to 'see'
the rust, so it can't do anything about under-paint bubbling.
This was a big patch out in the open where I think there was
an in-storage drip onto it over a
It's $0.65 here now --- seems like you have to re-figure it every week now.
On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 2:10 PM, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We may need to recalculate, but I was thinking it was an interval of some
$.40 or so between gas and diesel when we figured it.
Brian
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OK
$0.55 to $0.75 around here depending on how hard you look. Looks like the
big block dually is going to be replacing the diesels for a while, it's
getting close to breakover point.
On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 08:07:11PM -0500, OK Don wrote:
It's $0.65 here now --- seems like you have to re-figure
Or for 300k miles -
On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 10:05 AM, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It's easy to make massive HP for a 1/4 mile. It's a little more difficult to
make massive HP for an hour run.
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Norman, OK
There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and
OK Don wrote:
Or for 300k miles -
Finn superturbos are said to last just as long as stockers, unless
of course they blow up. The more extreme cases (like Sammuli's 333hp
OM602) are disassembled, blueprinted, and ceramic insulated.
Most of these guys make very sparing use of the extreme
Fairly small pocket of liquid I imagine? I think I'm going to have to give this
a shot. I'll scrape the paint off the area first.
Sounds like it didn't take long, was this somewhere the clay could rest or did
it have to stick on?
I'm thinking to build a cup of some sort to hold it up there. I'm
That does sound sweet! Might have to try a project like that when I
retire --- unless I start flying again.
Or for 300k miles -
Finn superturbos are said to last just as long as stockers, unless
of course they blow up. The more extreme cases (like Sammuli's 333hp
OM602) are
It's because the pumps are all aluminum and they wear very fast when
cold. Once they reach operating temperature, they wear very slow.
Also, the pump has one piston in the center a distribution plate they
aligns with each output port in turn. This means that the one little
piston is working 8X
How do you disturb the disturbed?
Tom
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT, movies are unrealistic these days
They have, at least once, maybe twice.
Remember
Explosive blast a flame front are two different things. Given enough
lead, you can out run a flame front because it lags quite a bit behind
the blast.
Being a Martial Artist, I'd state that Martial Arts are based on physics
and are real.
But the stuff shown on TV is all BS. In a real
My Pontiac diesel got 17 MPG in town 21 MPG on the highway.
You have to compare like vehicles - the same car with a 350 got 14 MPG
in town 17 MPG on the highway.
Tom
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The turbo diesels were built for turbocharging. The NA diesels were not.
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For me, the
On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 12:10:41 -0700 Zoltan Finks
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We may need to recalculate, but I was thinking it was an interval of
some $.40 or so between gas and diesel when we figured it.
It's not the interval (differential), it's the ratio:
mpg gasoline price
I understand but at the same time they uprate the water, oil and
transmission cooling systems.
In other words, don't bring your turbo boost up to 1.5 BAR and then
expect to use that extra power to pull hills without making major
changes elsewhere.
This leads right back to my original
On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 15:16:09 -0500 Rich Thomas
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as you have heard, i can take my brown mutt foxxy anywhere. it's now that
she's well trained or anything, just that she has become civilized. the
white german, on the other hand, is a whole different deal.
i got 2 pounds of nice bloody cheap meat from the feed store in loganville
tonight. i
Gary,
Has nothing to do with your Q?... But my answer is one small step at
time has gotten us to where we are!
Get a laugh outta this. I love it!
Chuck
Top this for a speeding ticket story:
Two California Highway Patrol Officers were conducting speeding
enforcement
Yeah, I love using that math technique. It's one of the very few I know. Has
many real life applications.
Brian
On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 8:37 PM, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 12:10:41 -0700 Zoltan Finks
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We may need to recalculate, but
Hi Is there someway to physically check a timing chain for wear.
i am replacing it with a new one,yet it looks and feels taut with no play in
the roller area. maybe it was replaced not too long ago.
mak
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I know, by the time it shot out and hit the server 2 min had passed ==
bummer!
--R
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On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 15:16:09 -0500 Rich Thomas
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