Re: [MBZ] Air travel before.....

2008-07-07 Thread Tom Hargrave
There are a lot of DC-3s still in the air. Thanks, Tom 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: 7/6/08 5:33 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Air travel before. I had the fun experience one day flying on the

Re: [MBZ] [Banned] i actually talk car stuff! (shocking, i know)`

2008-07-07 Thread LarryT
Dexron was used mostly in GM which had auto trans that traditionally shiftly more smoothly - i.e., they slipped the clutches - than the Ford ATs which shifted more firmly - so the Dex for GM contributed to the smooth shifting and the Type F contributed to the more firm shifts. While MB had

Re: [MBZ] Hands no mo

2008-07-07 Thread LarryT
You wrote you should keep your state police department's drunk driver hotline on speed dial In Va, the SP are available on #77 IIRC - to make it easy to reach them. Dont know if this is a national movement but it should be standardized, IMHO. Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D)

Re: [MBZ] OT SC

2008-07-07 Thread LarryT
We lived in Summerville, SC (just outside of C'ton) back in early 80s./ Beautiful people,beautiful country. The people made it a wonderful place to live. Then we moved to Greenville - another place of great people. When I think about it - of the 12-15 cities we've lived in - all have been

[MBZ] Online EPC down?

2008-07-07 Thread dave walton
I can't bring up the Online EPC: https://epc.startekinfo.com/epc/home.jsp I log in okay, but can't start it. Anyone else having problems, or is my computer flaking out? Thanks -Dave Walton On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 8:57 AM, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You wrote you should keep your state

Re: [MBZ] i actually talk car stuff! (shocking, i know)`

2008-07-07 Thread Gary Hurst
yeah, dexron whatever they are up to that you can buy cheap by the case at the auto parts store. 3, 4, i don't know. On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 12:48 AM, Steve MacSween [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 7/6/08 23:04, Gary Hurst at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: most people use dexron type ATF in their

Re: [MBZ] always on blower motor 1981 300SD

2008-07-07 Thread Donald Snook
Ok Don wrote: My brother bought a Corolla with a rattly blower - turned out to be a dead mouse. I am just getting back from vacation, so I am a little behind in the emails. BUT, it is funny that you mentioned this because I just had a similar experience. We were with some of my relatives in

Re: [MBZ] A Bit O.T. Acura AC Comp Lock Up

2008-07-07 Thread rusty
I need to know if 2 or 4 door, L LS or base. --Original Message-- From: Robert Rentfro Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' ReplyTo: Mercedes Discussion List Sent: Jul 7, 2008 12:42 AM Subject: [MBZ] A Bit O.T. Acura AC Comp Lock Up Wifey was driving the '87 Acura

Re: [MBZ] 280CE

2008-07-07 Thread Donald Snook
Gary wrote: a lot of people don't like the us spec m110 as it is over thirsty and low powered. it is a very pleasant underpowered gas guzzler. That is close to how I felt about mine, except mine was a Euro model. It was not a CE, but an E. I don't know if mine was a US Spec, but it was a

Re: [MBZ] A Bit O.T. Acura AC Comp Lock Up

2008-07-07 Thread Robert Rentfro
It's an '87 Legend, four door, auto, no sunroof (I think that makes it a base). Bob R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 2:51 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] A Bit O.T. Acura

[MBZ] O.T. But List Related for Kaleb

2008-07-07 Thread Robert Rentfro
Do Outlook mailboxes have a limit on how much unread mail can sit in them? I can't decide if I want to unsubscribe for a week. While gone I do plan to check my email through my provider. If I delete unwanted stuff when checking through my provider (Cox cable) those things will stay on my home

Re: [MBZ] O.T. But List Related for Kaleb

2008-07-07 Thread John Robbins
Robert Rentfro wrote: Do Outlook mailboxes have a limit on how much unread mail can sit in them? Outlook isn't the limiting factor... it is your ISP. Usually they have a couple of megabytes as the limit, which should be plenty of room for all of the text based messages on this list. While

Re: [MBZ] 53rd Porsche Parade

2008-07-07 Thread LarryT
Thx for the link to the photos - didn't the Parade have some functions/visits to Biltmore? Awesome Plantation - I wish I could have made it also - maybe next yext - at least I have a shorter drive than you - Va to NC would have been a 3-4 hr trip. Yours woud've been considerably longer.

Re: [MBZ] OT: Jeremy Hart out on bail?

2008-07-07 Thread LWB250
Does that mean you're building up the armory in anticipation of a visit? Dan --- On Sun, 7/6/08, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Jeremy Hart out on bail? To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date:

Re: [MBZ] Online EPC down?

2008-07-07 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 6:25 AM, dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't bring up the Online EPC: https://epc.startekinfo.com/epc/home.jsp I log in okay, but can't start it. Anyone else having problems, or is my computer flaking out? Dave, did you recently upgrade Java? On the machine

Re: [MBZ] Online EPC down?

2008-07-07 Thread dave walton
It's back up now. Thanks -Dave Walton On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 11:59 AM, Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 6:25 AM, dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't bring up the Online EPC: https://epc.startekinfo.com/epc/home.jsp I log in okay, but can't start it.

Re: [MBZ] O.T. But List Related for Kaleb

2008-07-07 Thread Rich Thomas
I would guess that you have your home machine set to delete messages off your mail server once you download them to that machine. If you leave that machine (or Outlook) running you will need to set it to leave msgs on the server if you want to be able to see them while you are traveling. Or

[MBZ] 1978 300D

2008-07-07 Thread Donald Snook
I found a 1978 300D here in Wichita cheap. It has working a/c. so, I may buy it before someone snatches it up. It only has 175,000 miles. I am trying to get pics of the interior or schedule a time to go see it this evening. I don't know anything about the 300D that early. I had two 123's

[MBZ] Looking for a van.

2008-07-07 Thread Rolf
Preferably in need of a lot of TLC. Preferably cheap. Preferably in the Southeast. 207/206/307 type vehicles. Looking to make an RV conversion so I can take my ladies camping. -Rolf ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor:

Re: [MBZ] Looking for a van.

2008-07-07 Thread Christopher McCann
Don't know what a 207/206/307 van is. I think I'll be selling my Ram Van (Wagon - has the seats). 15 passenger, 1 ton, good condition, $3,000, gasser, obviously. new tires, w/w motor, just changed oil and filter, some other things I can't remember right now. Needs blower motor (a/c works -

Re: [MBZ] Looking for a van.

2008-07-07 Thread Rolf
Should have been more clear. Looking for a *Mercedes* van. 206/207/307 are the only models I am aware of. Anyone else? -Rolf Christopher McCann wrote: Don't know what a 207/206/307 van is. I think I'll be selling my Ram Van (Wagon - has the seats). 15 passenger, 1 ton, good condition, $3,000,

[MBZ] eBay Auction 1972 280SEL 4.5

2008-07-07 Thread Chuck Landenberger
Hi all, The Mercedes-Benz Club of America Educational Foundation is auctioning a 1972 280SEL 4.5 for the benefit of the Foundation- Go to this link for more info: http://mbca.cartama.net/ showthread.php?p=144422#post144422 And go to this link for more info about the MBCA Educational

Re: [MBZ] eBay Auction 1972 280SEL 4.5

2008-07-07 Thread Gary Hurst
how does the market look for those cars? they were making a big comeback before the gas crunch and hope they haven't collapsed like the 126 v8s have On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 1:56 PM, Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, The Mercedes-Benz Club of America Educational Foundation

Re: [MBZ] eBay Auction 1972 280SEL 4.5

2008-07-07 Thread Chuck Landenberger
Gary, An earlier auction did not meet the Reserve. Reserve has been reduced. As to gas crunch, etc., IMHO, if you want this kind of classic, MPG is not a consideration. Besides, it ain't a daily driver. I haven't seen it, but been told it in VG condition As described

Re: [MBZ] eBay Auction 1972 280SEL 4.5

2008-07-07 Thread Gary Hurst
i'd really only be interested in one sound enough to be a daily driver anyway. i used to drive a 280sel every day, but then i sold it to rusty. man, i miss that car! On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 2:04 PM, Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gary, An earlier auction did not meet the Reserve.

Re: [MBZ] OT: Jeremy Hart out on bail?

2008-07-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Naw, he wont show up here LWB250 wrote: Does that mean you're building up the armory in anticipation of a visit? Dan --- On Sun, 7/6/08, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Jeremy Hart out on bail? To: Mercedes

[MBZ] Mobil 1

2008-07-07 Thread LarryT
Was browsing the Mobil website today and noticed they have an extensive Do-it-yourself library located at http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Car_Care/DIY/Steering_Rack_Replacement.aspx There are some excellent procedures listed - many are not oil related - brake, paint, Throttle

Re: [MBZ] O.T. But List Related for Kaleb

2008-07-07 Thread Robert Rentfro
A...digest mode. I almost forgot. We're going to East Peoria for my 30th HS Class Reunion. We will visit a few relatives, spend a little money on the gambling boat, eat Steak-n-Shake daily, and I will keep my eye peeled for the elusive '72 200D I need. Bob R. -Original Message- From:

Re: [MBZ] O.T. But List Related for Kaleb

2008-07-07 Thread Robert Rentfro
I shall make that change so I can see them while I'm away. Bob R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 9:20 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] O.T. But List Related for Kaleb I would

Re: [MBZ] O.T. But List Related for Kaleb

2008-07-07 Thread Mitch Haley
Robert Rentfro wrote: A...digest mode. I almost forgot. Switch to digest, and set your traveling computer to download new messages only and leave messages on server. When you get home, you can download the digests to your main computer. ___

Re: [MBZ] O.T. But List Related for Kaleb

2008-07-07 Thread Robert Rentfro
I should have said '72 220D -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Rentfro Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 11:56 AM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] O.T. But List Related for Kaleb A...digest mode. I almost forgot. We're

Re: [MBZ] OT: Jeremy Hart out on bail?

2008-07-07 Thread Robert Rentfro
Really? He's not at all concerned about his kids? (maybe concerned isn't the right word) Bob R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 11:39 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT:

[MBZ] OT biofuels impact on food prices much higher than previously reported.

2008-07-07 Thread Allan Streib
claims that biofuel initiatives have forced world food prices up by 75%. http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2008/jul/03/biofuels.renewableenergy I think this is pretty much common sense and shows the foolishness of using food crops as a fuel source. Allan -- 1983 300D

Re: [MBZ] OT biofuels impact on food prices much higher than previously reported.

2008-07-07 Thread Gary Hurst
i don't get it still. we have been hitherto told that we grow too much crop. using that too much leads to desperate price increases in food? On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 5:15 PM, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: claims that biofuel initiatives have forced world food prices up by 75%.

Re: [MBZ] O.T. But List Related for Kaleb

2008-07-07 Thread Kevin Kraly
I should have said '72 220D Not MY '72 220D! During the 5 years I've been scanning Craigslist Portland, I've seen 3 '72 220D's come up, one with a totally trashed/taken apart interior and dash, one that was hit in the driver's side, and one for $4400 that was roadworthy and partially

Re: [MBZ] OT Ford Question/ignition misfire

2008-07-07 Thread R A Bennell
You are absolutely right. The cylinders are 1 through 4 on the passenger side and 5 through 8 on the driver's side, front to back. So far, I have changed out the front 3 on the p side and the front 2 on the d side. None of those were too hard to do. 7 and 8 don't look like fun. 4 does not look

Re: [MBZ] OT biofuels impact on food prices much higher than previously reported.

2008-07-07 Thread Christopher McCann
I wonder if land has been taken out of the Crop Reserve Program? If not, that is part of the problem. I know the claim is that this is often marginal land that should not be under cultivation. Well, the marginal land can grow crops that do not cause much erosion (NOT CORN), like jatropha. And

Re: [MBZ] OT biofuels impact on food prices much higher than previously reported.

2008-07-07 Thread Gary Hurst
that's my guess. this blame biofuels is so much just subterfuge to confuse you. On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 6:00 PM, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder if land has been taken out of the Crop Reserve Program? If not, that is part of the problem. I know the claim is that this is

Re: [MBZ] O.T. But List Related for Kaleb

2008-07-07 Thread Gary Hurst
220D, you mean? i'd like one too. if you can find a cheap pair, keep me in mind for the one you don't want On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 2:56 PM, Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A...digest mode. I almost forgot. We're going to East Peoria for my 30th HS Class Reunion. We will visit a

[MBZ] MORE on AT fluids

2008-07-07 Thread R A Bennell
I just changed the AT fluid in my F150 and note that the dipstick says to use Mercon V. I had to look around to find fluid that said it was rated that way and it appears that means it is synthetic fluid. I am assuming that would be the case with the newest Dexron as well given my understanding

Re: [MBZ] O.T. But List Related for Kaleb

2008-07-07 Thread Robert Rentfro
You bet. Bob R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Hurst Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 3:16 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] O.T. But List Related for Kaleb 220D, you mean? i'd like one too. if you can find a cheap

Re: [MBZ] MORE on AT fluids

2008-07-07 Thread Peter Frederick
Type F fluid went out of usage (by Ford or anyone else) about 20 years ago, or longer. The difference is in the friction modifiers, the only real result of switching them was firmer shifts with Type F. Mobil 1 (or any other full synthetic) ATF is vastly better, and what I use. Peter On

Re: [MBZ] O.T. But List Related for Kaleb

2008-07-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
FYI, if you dont want to switch to digest mode, all you have to do is switch delivery to off rather than unsubscribe. Robert Rentfro wrote: I should have said '72 220D -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Rentfro Sent: Monday,

Re: [MBZ] OT: Jeremy Hart out on bail?

2008-07-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Kids are in california. It was time for them to go about the time his parents decided to start trying to bail him out. Already have enough problems as it is without that mess. Robert Rentfro wrote: Really? He's not at all concerned about his kids? (maybe concerned isn't the right word)

Re: [MBZ] OT: Jeremy Hart out on bail?

2008-07-07 Thread Mitch Haley
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Kids are in california. Judas, Sensi, and the other one are with Jeremy's parents? Permanently or visiting? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email

Re: [MBZ] O.T. But List Related for Kaleb

2008-07-07 Thread Robert Rentfro
I want to switch to digest mode while I'm gone but I forgot my password. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 3:53 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] O.T. But List Related for Kaleb

Re: [MBZ] OT: Jeremy Hart out on bail?

2008-07-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I guess until the flakes decide he is fit to raise them again. They are doing good out there, its just matter of if his parents decide to give them back to jeremy or not. I dont think they will assuming he somehow gets off, but then again, I didnt think they would be bailing h im out of jail

Re: [MBZ] O.T. But List Related for Kaleb

2008-07-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
go to the list page and click the button to have it emailed to you Robert Rentfro wrote: I want to switch to digest mode while I'm gone but I forgot my password. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Monday, July

Re: [MBZ] Selling a couple of cars

2008-07-07 Thread M. Mitchell Marmel
At 8:57 PM -0500 7/6/08, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: One of you should buy one of them. Both are very nice. Having seen them, I concur... -MMM- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email

Re: [MBZ] eBay Auction 1972 280SEL 4.5

2008-07-07 Thread Tyler Backman
If MPG isn't a consideration on classics, than why has the price of diesel pontons shot up so much recently? Tyler On Jul 7, 2008, at 11:04 AM, Chuck Landenberger wrote: Gary, An earlier auction did not meet the Reserve. Reserve has been reduced. As to gas crunch, etc., IMHO, if you

Re: [MBZ] eBay Auction 1972 280SEL 4.5

2008-07-07 Thread Gary Hurst
biofuels, i think. i think he is saying that mpg isn't a consideration on a car you really wouldn't drive. on a driveable car, thought, it's very important. his car isn't a driver though, so it doesn't matter. On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 3:01 PM, Tyler Backman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If MPG

Re: [MBZ] O.T. But List Related for Kaleb

2008-07-07 Thread Robert Rentfro
I did...you haven't sent it to me yet. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 4:24 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] O.T. But List Related for Kaleb go to the list page and click the

Re: [MBZ] O.T. But List Related for Kaleb

2008-07-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Its automated, I dont have a thing to do with it. Robert Rentfro wrote: I did...you haven't sent it to me yet. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 4:24 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List

Re: [MBZ] O.T. But List Related for Kaleb

2008-07-07 Thread Mitch Haley
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Its automated, I dont have a thing to do with it. Does Bob still have his monthly reminder email in his trash folder? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email

Re: [MBZ] O.T. But List Related for Kaleb

2008-07-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I changed bob to digest for him Mitch Haley wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Its automated, I dont have a thing to do with it. Does Bob still have his monthly reminder email in his trash folder? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official

Re: [MBZ] OT biofuels impact on food prices much higher than previously reported.

2008-07-07 Thread Curt Raymond
Biofuels didn't create a food crisis. Abnormally low food prices created an underclass of people who could only barely survive at those insanely low prices. The price of corn hadn't risen squat in 50 years. Now demand for biofuels has made food prices rise to somewhere near (but probably still

[MBZ] 300SD Vac Pump Rebuild does not suck

2008-07-07 Thread Rich Thomas
Vac pump on the 84 300SD was not sucking, so the boy and I rebuilt it this afternoon/evening. Fired the car up and NO VACUUM! Well, only about 4psi on the MityVac gauge. Not sure what the problem is now. Looked like one of the check valves in the pump was munched, we replaced everything in

[MBZ] why do all ebay and craigslist MB's get 45 mpg?

2008-07-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
45 MPG 1979 300D Mercedes - $3000 (Keller) Reply to: see below Date: 2008-07-07, 5:34PM CDT Yes, it gets great gas mileage! I just put in a new A/C compressor but have not charged it up as yet so I'll include 7 cans of R12 (that's about $100 a can now). It has approximately 200K miles and

[MBZ] 87 MBZ 420 SEL Maintenance Manual

2008-07-07 Thread Ken Rushing
Just bought an 87 MBZ 420 SEL. Could anyone recommend some good maintenance manuals and where to get them? Thanks, Ken ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To

[MBZ] MBZ Spring Identification

2008-07-07 Thread Ken Rushing
I'm getting some rear springs for my 87 MBZ 300D turbo and someone has offered to sell some to me off a 300E. I'm not sure which is front or back but here are the numbers and color code. First is the three pointed MB star, then, 1293240604, then a little anchor symbol (?), then 4106. Blue dot,

Re: [MBZ] 300SD Vac Pump Rebuild does not suck

2008-07-07 Thread Rich Thomas
Oh, one other thing, I am wondering if the cam thingie on the engine is actually turning and driving the pump. I would guess it is if it is developing a bit of vac, the cam thingie looks to be driven off the timing chain or crankshaft somehow? Not sure what could break there that would not

Re: [MBZ] MBZ Spring Identification

2008-07-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
The first number is for rear springs for a 129 chassis SL, the 2nd number is for the front springs for the same model. In other words, will not fit your 124 Ken Rushing wrote: I'm getting some rear springs for my 87 MBZ 300D turbo and someone has offered to sell some to me off a 300E. I'm

Re: [MBZ] 300SD Vac Pump Rebuild does not suck

2008-07-07 Thread Allan Streib
If yours is like mine, one of the three check valves (the one by itself) is inverted compared to the other two. You'll notice that the pump cover has a recess over that valve to accomodate it being upside down compared to the others. I made exactly the same mistake assembling mine. I put all

Re: [MBZ] why do all ebay and craigslist MB's get 45 mpg?

2008-07-07 Thread Allan Streib
Run away... The MPG is clearly a lie, and why would you go through the effort to replace the AC compressor and then not charge it. The AC doesn't work, or won't hold a charge, is why. Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 45 MPG 1979 300D Mercedes - $3000 (Keller) Reply to: see below

Re: [MBZ] why do all ebay and craigslist MB's get 45 mpg?

2008-07-07 Thread Steve MacSween
on 7/7/08 20:59, Kaleb C. Striplin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 45 MPG 1979 300D Mercedes - $3000 (Keller) Reply to: see below Date: 2008-07-07, 5:34PM CDT The two times I have had MBz diesels for sale (one 300sd, one 240d), both times about fifty percent of people who inquire are horrified

Re: [MBZ] 300SD Vac Pump Rebuild does not suck

2008-07-07 Thread Jim Cathey
Oh, one other thing, I am wondering if the cam thingie on the engine is actually turning and driving the pump. If the engine is running, that thing has to be turning. You can discern how the check valves are supposed to be in just by thinking about how the pump has to work. And you can test it

Re: [MBZ] 1978 300D

2008-07-07 Thread Jim Cathey
Both were turbo. Anything special I should look for on this one? A turbo! That would be tres special. Seriously? If it has the infamous Evil Chrysler ACC from Hell I'd think twice (or ten times) about it. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts

Re: [MBZ] O.T. But List Related for Kaleb

2008-07-07 Thread Jim Cathey
I will keep my eye peeled for the elusive '72 200D I need. Elusive indeed. I have one, and I know there are a very few out there. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email

Re: [MBZ] O.T. But List Related for Kaleb

2008-07-07 Thread Jim Cathey
The '83 300SD doesn't get driven at all, so I'm thinking of selling it. Yes, Jim C, that's right! Of course you are! Just stop churning the collection on the high end and you'll be fine. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list

[MBZ] FW: Today's Diesel Prices

2008-07-07 Thread Tom Hargrave
Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 2:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Today's Diesel Prices ** ** ** * **

Re: [MBZ] O.T. But List Related for Kaleb

2008-07-07 Thread Tom Hargrave
I owned one and want another. To me it's the ultimate 114 / 115 body Mercedes. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 8:21 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List

Re: [MBZ] why do all ebay and craigslist MB's get 45 mpg?

2008-07-07 Thread Allan Streib
Steve MacSween [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The two times I have had MBz diesels for sale (one 300sd, one 240d), both times about fifty percent of people who inquire are horrified when they hear the cars are 'only' good for under 30 mpg. But VWs get way better than that! The concept that a

Re: [MBZ] why do all ebay and craigslist MB's get 45 mpg?

2008-07-07 Thread Wilton Strickland
- Original Message - From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 9:17 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] why do all ebay and craigslist MB's get 45 mpg? Run away... The MPG is clearly a lie, and why would you go through the

Re: [MBZ] why do all ebay and craigslist MB's get 45 mpg?

2008-07-07 Thread Tom Hargrave
I've had two VW beetles, one with a 1500 one with a 1600 engine. Both got 25 MPG with mixed driving. A Mercedes diesel that literally weighs twice as much is doing good to get about the same! Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [MBZ] why do all ebay and craigslist MB's get 45 mpg?

2008-07-07 Thread Tom Hargrave
Their owners only drive them down hill? Thanks, Tom 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes Mailing List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: 7/7/08 8:00 PM Subject: [MBZ] why do all ebay and craigslist MB's get 45 mpg? 45 MPG 1979 300D Mercedes -

Re: [MBZ] why do all ebay and craigslist MB's get 45 mpg?

2008-07-07 Thread Wilton Strickland
$100 a can!!!??? I may need to start selling Freon! Wilton - Original Message - From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 9:17 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] why do all ebay and craigslist MB's get 45 mpg? Run

Re: [MBZ] i actually talk car stuff! (shocking, i know)`

2008-07-07 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Mon, 7 Jul 2008 09:45:06 -0400 Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yeah, dexron whatever they are up to that you can buy cheap by the case at the auto parts store. 3, 4, i don't know. All I know is that Marshall recommended Mobil 1 ATF ... Craig ___

Re: [MBZ] i actually talk car stuff! (shocking, i know)`

2008-07-07 Thread Gary Hurst
and when your front seal leaks? On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 11:01 PM, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 7 Jul 2008 09:45:06 -0400 Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yeah, dexron whatever they are up to that you can buy cheap by the case at the auto parts store. 3, 4, i don't

Re: [MBZ] i actually talk car stuff! (shocking, i know)`

2008-07-07 Thread Allan Streib
Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: All I know is that Marshall recommended Mobil 1 ATF ... Did he? I recall him being somewhat hesitant to fully endorse it, since MB had not (maybe they now do?). Or maybe he just did not endorse an extended change interval. I can't remember. Allan

Re: [MBZ] 1978 300D

2008-07-07 Thread Steve MacSween
on 7/7/08 12:23, Donald Snook at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is the mileage a little worse on the non-turbo since you have to have your foot in it all the time? Should I expect 24-26 on the highway? (that is what I got in my 123's). Any other information would be great. If you were used to the

Re: [MBZ] i actually talk car stuff! (shocking, i know)`

2008-07-07 Thread Steve MacSween
on 7/7/08 23:35, Allan Streib at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: All I know is that Marshall recommended Mobil 1 ATF ... Did he? I recall him being somewhat hesitant to fully endorse it, since MB had not (maybe they now do?). Or maybe he just did not

Re: [MBZ] 87 MBZ 420 SEL Maintenance Manual

2008-07-07 Thread Rick Knoble
Just bought an 87 MBZ 420 SEL. Could anyone recommend some good maintenance manuals and where to get them? Thanks, Ken http://www.classictechlit.mbusa.com/MB/default.asp?catalog%5Fname=Retail I did not see the Service CD's listed on the site. Your best bet would be to call MBUSA Classic

Re: [MBZ] i actually talk car stuff! (shocking, i know)`

2008-07-07 Thread Archer
Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: All I know is that Marshall recommended Mobil 1 ATF ... Did he? I recall him being somewhat hesitant to fully endorse it, since MB had not (maybe they now do?). Or maybe he just did not endorse an extended change interval. I can't remember. Allan

Re: [MBZ] O.T. But List Related for Kaleb

2008-07-07 Thread Robert Rentfro
No bob doesn't... No worries. I'll manage BobR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 4:41 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] O.T. But List Related for Kaleb Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Its

Re: [MBZ] O.T. But List Related for Kaleb

2008-07-07 Thread Robert Rentfro
Looks like Kaleb took care of it for me. That's service plus! Bob R Off to Illinois in about 6 hours. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 4:41 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] O.T. But