Re: [MBZ] Car for sale update

2008-11-25 Thread Luther
I'm already looking at buying this one instead of your black 2.5. Luther Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: dont tempt me Luther wrote: I have a lead on a '87 300E for $500. -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (281,xxx mi) '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x59,xxx mi) BioBeast '82 300CD (183 kmi)

Re: [MBZ] Ebay 25%, craigslist 75%

2008-11-25 Thread Hendrik Fay
A strategic investment, lot easier to go from 25 to 51, than from 0 to 51. If ebay makes a loss on this stake then that means Craiglist is not working out and that would make ebay most happy. Any which way ebay will get out ahead but obviously it would be in their interest if Craiglist fails

Re: [MBZ] Glow Plug Testing

2008-11-25 Thread Robert Rentfro
Thanks Jim. Good explanation. Now all I need is a day off to mess with it. I'll be busy making electricity while yous guys are dining with your families. Eat like mad. Bob R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Monday,

Re: [MBZ] Glow Plug Testing

2008-11-25 Thread Robert Rentfro
It's the W123 300D -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Frederick Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 11:56 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Glow Plug Testing I've forgotten, what car is this in? The W115 300D does not use

[MBZ] Engine turning a 540K rocker cover

2008-11-25 Thread Hendrik Fay
http://www.cs.ucr.edu/~eamonn/et/et.htm Sounds like an interesting chap. Hendrik ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options

Re: [MBZ] OT LPs

2008-11-25 Thread Mitch Haley
Ed Booher wrote: Here is my outlook on this issue. If I own a vinyl, 8-track, or cassette of an album, and that album was re-released on CD, then I feel that I have paid my pound of flesh for the entertainment of that specific audio enjoyment. I then borrow said CD from the local library and

Re: [MBZ] OT - faucet

2008-11-25 Thread Wilton Strickland
Thanks. 'Think I'll get 'em. Even if they don't help with this faucet problem (though they may), they may be handy for something else later. Wilton - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, November 24,

[MBZ] Rusty floor well (as in oxidized, not Cullens)

2008-11-25 Thread Dan Weeks
I only have luck with POR 15 if i can get all the scale off with a good power wire brushing and get it good and dry. If not, I prefer just plain old linseed oil. If the scale is thick, I thin it with a bit of turpentine for better penetration. It's not a permanent fix, but it works

Re: [MBZ] Engine turning a 540K rocker cover

2008-11-25 Thread Wilton Strickland
'Thought it was mate there and chap in the Mother Country. ;)) Wilton - Original Message - From: Hendrik Fay [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 7:00 AM Subject: [MBZ] Engine turning a 540K rocker cover

Re: [MBZ] OT - kitchen sink faucet

2008-11-25 Thread Douglas
If it is a 20 year old Delta I would say that the ball is worn out and I would replace the faucet with one that has a ceramic disc in it. Be sure to keep the paper work to identify the faucet with the manufacturer in the future as they will send any and all repair parts. Though only if you

Re: [MBZ] Rusty floor well (as in oxidized, not Cullens)

2008-11-25 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
My experience with POR 15 is that if you do not remove all the rust, it will eventually rust again especially in wheel wells, rockers etc where there is a lot of salt exposure.  I like to remove all rust with naval jelly, down into the pits and then apply POR-15 --- On Tue, 11/25/08, Dan Weeks

Re: [MBZ] Rusty floor well (as in oxidized, not Cullens)

2008-11-25 Thread Jim Cathey
POR 15...linseed oil. Doesn't seem to stop flax rust, though! :-) In the same vein would not used motor oil work? Even cheaper. Doesn't dry, though. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/

Re: [MBZ] Snook's next car

2008-11-25 Thread Donald Snook
Kaleb wrote: Its worth about 1500 Where did you get this number? That seems pretty low. But, it got me thinking that offering $2100 was too high. So, I looked up the various sites. Kelly Blue Book (which I think is way too high) says $4335 (dealer retail). Private party Excellent $3035 and

Re: [MBZ] Snook's next car

2008-11-25 Thread Douglas
I am in the same frame using a '98 Durango with the 318 engine. I figure I can buy a whole lot of gas even at $4 a gallon to get to what I would be paying for a new vehicle. Yes it does take some maintainance. But every little thing that comes up I repair. So the car is like new. Douglas

Re: [MBZ] Glow Plug Testing

2008-11-25 Thread Jim Cathey
I've forgotten, what car is this in? The W115 300D does not use current draw to turn the GP lamp on, it's on a separate temperature sensor that screws into the head and operates pretty much by heat from the coolant and theoretically from the current heating a bimetallic spring. It's a

Re: [MBZ] OT - faucet

2008-11-25 Thread harry watkins
Wilton Use a pair of vice grips with a cargo strap or your belt or anything else. Grip it around the item and use it like a strap wrench. You can try various materials until you get the one that grips the item best. With the taper, use a smaller pair and grip it only on the large end of the

Re: [MBZ] Storing SD with windshield leak

2008-11-25 Thread Curt Raymond
I wouldn't, he's seen worse. I've never had to duct tape a windshield... -Curt Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 22:27:02 -0600 From: John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Storing SD with windshield leak To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [MBZ] Rusty floor well (as in oxidized, not Cullens)

2008-11-25 Thread Allan Streib
Dimitri Seretakis [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: My experience with POR 15 is that if you do not remove all the rust, it will eventually rust again especially in wheel wells, rockers etc where there is a lot of salt exposure.  I like to remove all rust with naval jelly, down into the pits and then

Re: [MBZ] Rusty floor well (as in oxidized, not Cullens)

2008-11-25 Thread Tom Hargrave
If the floorboards are going away because of rust then what else is going away? I used to live in Western NY State where holes would start showing in doors rocker panels within 3 years in the 70s. Most of these cars were structurally unsafe within 5 years and the State would not let them back on

[MBZ] OT: Son's Motorcycle Site

2008-11-25 Thread Tom Hargrave
I know from past conversations that some of you ride. I just helped Joey launch a new motorcycle site – HYPERLINK http://www.motobrag.com/www.motobrag.com Once he has reached 100 members, he will start an online message board contest the prize will be a gift certificate to CycleGear.com.

Re: [MBZ] OT - kitchen sink faucet

2008-11-25 Thread Wilton Strickland
This problem is leaking O-ring on swivel spout separated by 4 inches HORIZONTALLY from the ball and handle; ball and the two seals beneath it were replaced coupla years ago - extremely easy. Need to remove the tapered collar/bonnet around base of the swivel spout in order to remove spout and

Re: [MBZ] OT - faucet

2008-11-25 Thread Wilton Strickland
Thanks, that's what I've been thinking, too, but still not even sure the bonnet turns or is screwed on. Wilton - Original Message - From: harry watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 9:27 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT -

Re: [MBZ] Rusty floor well (as in oxidized, not Cullens)

2008-11-25 Thread Mitch Haley
Allan Streib wrote: The only thing I've found that works well on pitted metal is the electrolytic method, but that's only practical when you can submerge the piece in the electrolyte. ... and hydrogen embrittlement is of no concern. Mitch. ___

[MBZ] Linseed oil, was Rusty FLoors

2008-11-25 Thread Dan Weeks
Motor oil works, even WD 40 works for a little while. But those oils will sooner or later wash off. So will linseed oil, but it's more tenacious. It also smells better, IMO. Dan On Nov 25, 2008, at 8:52 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: POR 15...linseed oil. Doesn't seem to stop flax rust,

Re: [MBZ] Storing SD with windshield leak

2008-11-25 Thread John Robbins
It seems the general consensus is to just seal it up and tell the installer to deal with it. Guess that's the plan! Thanks guys! John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email

[MBZ] Diesel Prices

2008-11-25 Thread Tom Hargrave
I noticed that some members were complaining about diesel prices. Why, when prices are lower than they have been since Feb of 2007? Or were list members complaining because gas prices are even lower than diesel? HYPERLINK

[MBZ] FW: Today's Diesel Prices

2008-11-25 Thread Tom Hargrave
Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 2:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Today's Diesel Prices ** ** ** * **

Re: [MBZ] Diesel Prices

2008-11-25 Thread John Robbins
Tom Hargrave wrote: Or were list members complaining because gas prices are even lower than diesel? Bingo. I'm happy though... $2.60 or so a gallon + 35mpg doesn't bother me in the slightest. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official

Re: [MBZ] Storing SD with windshield leak

2008-11-25 Thread Curt Raymond
I'm not sure how to seal a 126 car, I don't think they have the same seal as a 123 which is easy. I *think* the 201 and 126 are the same in which case the windshield sits against a putty (more like caulk really) seal thats been squirted on. I'd guess you'd have to take the moulding off and run

Re: [MBZ] Diesel Prices

2008-11-25 Thread Rich Thomas
Everyone likes to whinge about prices. --R Tom Hargrave wrote: I noticed that some members were complaining about diesel prices. Why, when prices are lower than they have been since Feb of 2007? Or were list members complaining because gas prices are even lower than diesel?

Re: [MBZ] Storing SD with windshield leak

2008-11-25 Thread Jim Cathey
I'm not sure how to seal a 126 car, I don't think they have the same seal as a 123 which is easy. They don't. 114/115/123 have a molded rubber seal. 107/126/124/201 are caulked in place. Dunno about the 116. I assume that all newer ones are caulked, and that all older ones have a rubber

Re: [MBZ] OT Biodiesel *processor* for under $3K from Northern Tool

2008-11-25 Thread andrew strasfogel
Ernest, As an original member of the formerly known as Andy club, I should have known better than to Ernie-fy you. So are their reputable companies in the big cities operating under industrial economies of scale who are hauling away restaurants' fryer grease and turning it into bio diesel? On

Re: [MBZ] OT Biodiesel *processor* for under $3K from Northern Tool

2008-11-25 Thread andrew strasfogel
Ernest, As an original member of the formerly known as Andy club, I should have known better than to Ernie-fy you. So are their reputable companies in the big cities operating under industrial economies of scale who are hauling away restaurants' fryer grease and turning it into bio diesel? On

Re: [MBZ] UCAs

2008-11-25 Thread andrew strasfogel
Curt, remember the physician's adage: do no harm! On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 6:04 PM, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So yesterday morning at 13F I started on the UCAs on my '83 240D. Finished 3 hours later at 33F... The rapid drop in temp (the weekend before was 60's and raining) has

Re: [MBZ] Storing SD with windshield leak

2008-11-25 Thread John Robbins
Jim Cathey wrote: I'm not sure how to seal a 126 car, I don't think they have the same seal as a 123 which is easy. They don't. 114/115/123 have a molded rubber seal. 107/126/124/201 are caulked in place. Dunno about the 116. I assume that all newer ones are caulked, and that all older ones

[MBZ] OT: One Congressman's opinion of the Federal Reserve

2008-11-25 Thread Mitch Haley
(yes, it's politics, but how often does a Congressman tell us what he really thinks about the situation in D.C.?) Statement of Congressman Ron Paul United States House of Representatives The Austrians Were Right November 20, 2008

Re: [MBZ] Rusty floor well (as in oxidized, not Cullens)

2008-11-25 Thread andrew strasfogel
I am a HUGE fan of Extend rust converter, either spray or paint it on! You actually must NOT remove all the rust in order for it to work it's miracle job of halting rust in its tracks. It's also sandable and paintable! On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 9:56 AM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [MBZ] UCAs

2008-11-25 Thread Curt Raymond
Well Angie drove the car to work yesterday and said she thought it drove better now than it did when I got rid of it 3 years ago... It probably needed shocks then too... The front end is nice and quiet with the new UCAs the driver's side bushing fell apart when I took the UCA out. The broken

Re: [MBZ] OT: One Congressman's opinion of the Federal Reserve

2008-11-25 Thread andrew strasfogel
Gee, I wonder why he wasn't nominated. On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 10:57 AM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (yes, it's politics, but how often does a Congressman tell us what he really thinks about the situation in D.C.?) Statement of Congressman Ron Paul United States House of

Re: [MBZ] OT: The West Wing

2008-11-25 Thread Redghost
Neighbor and I were growing some seedless white sort of grape. I removed mine a few years ago to redo the raised beds and now have a great sunny stonewalled area to plant them again. I have had some luck with red grapes, but more for eating than wine. Neighbor tried to make wine with

Re: [MBZ] Snook's next car

2008-11-25 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I got the number from being in and around the car business for the last 8 years, and working all day on dealer lots as part of my job, I get a feel for how much something is worth. Donald Snook wrote: Kaleb wrote: Its worth about 1500 Where did you get this number? That seems pretty low.

Re: [MBZ] OT Biodiesel *processor* for under $3K from Northern Tool

2008-11-25 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 7:40 AM, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So are their reputable companies in the big cities operating under industrial economies of scale who are hauling away restaurants' fryer grease and turning it into bio diesel? Dunno about anywhere else, but here in

Re: [MBZ] Ebay 0, craigslist 2

2008-11-25 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 10:04 AM, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any decent web developer could clone the basic Craigslist functionality inside of a week. Much less than that, surely, considering the basic functionality is all there is to Craigslist. Its lack of frou-frou interface is

Re: [MBZ] Snook's next car

2008-11-25 Thread Loren Faeth
Book prices are where prices have been. Used car prices have dropped precipitously in the last 2-3 months. The book p[rice is lagging the drop of used car prices. At 10:47 AM 11/25/2008, you wrote: I got the number from being in and around the car business for the last 8 years, and working

[MBZ] Rusty deflationary kudos

2008-11-25 Thread Curt Raymond
Putting in what will hopefully be the last Rusty order on my 240D for awhile it occured to me to order a new wiper blade for my 190D. The one thats on there seems fine but I bought it in '05 (good blade huh?) and should at least have a replacement. There are 2 blades listed on Bimby so I went

[MBZ] OT: online loan companies

2008-11-25 Thread Allan Streib
Considering buying some property (residential house) as an investment, i.e. a rental. I've noticed that all the banks around here want 6 - 6.5% plus a point or two on investment property loans. Quicken on the other hand shows 5.5%, though I can't get it to say that would be the rate for

Re: [MBZ] Snook's next car

2008-11-25 Thread R A Bennell
I did not say you should not keep what you have. Notice that I pointed out that I have an F150 Supercrew and a boat that is not cheap to run. What I was pointing out, is that if I were to buy something else, I would be thinking about fuel costs over the longer term. May not mean much if you

Re: [MBZ] OT: The West Wing

2008-11-25 Thread andrew strasfogel
Where does Clay live? The south? On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 11:23 AM, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Neighbor and I were growing some seedless white sort of grape. I removed mine a few years ago to redo the raised beds and now have a great sunny stonewalled area to plant them again. I have

Re: [MBZ] OT: One Congressman's opinion of the Federal Reserve

2008-11-25 Thread Allan Streib
If the crisis was predictable and is explainable, why did no one listen? It's because too many politicians believed that a free lunch was possible and a new economic paradigm had arrived. Not only politicians, everyone. I firmly believe that the something for nothing, free lunch, this time

Re: [MBZ] OT Biodiesel *processor* for under $3K from Northern Tool

2008-11-25 Thread andrew strasfogel
$6/gal ??? WTF?!?! If the source material is free, then why is the biodiesel so effin' expensive?? On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 11:53 AM, Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 7:40 AM, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So are their reputable companies in the

Re: [MBZ] Rusty floor well (as in oxidized, not Cullens)

2008-11-25 Thread pm7088
I was out of work, 15 years ago. The steel cross on exterior of our chuch had surface rust. I used EXTEND to prime it, it dries mat black. I got a job, never did paint the cross with enamel, it's still mat black and looks great. Say yes ti EXTEND! Pete -- Original message

[MBZ] Installing front shocks on my 300TD wagon - should I try this at home?

2008-11-25 Thread andrew strasfogel
Is it OK to install fornt shocks using simply a jack? I have done this under supervision in the past, with the car on a lift. 1983 300TD wagon ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email

[MBZ] 240D throttle plate

2008-11-25 Thread Curt Raymond
Anybody ever messed with the throttle plate on a 240D? I was a little surprised to find one when I removed the air cleaner housing... The plate was stuck shut, some penetrant and screwdriver action started to get it free'd up to the point I realized the throttle mechanism that actuates it is

Re: [MBZ] OT: The West Wing

2008-11-25 Thread Alex Chamberlain
Olympia, WA On 11/25/08, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where does Clay live? The south? On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 11:23 AM, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Neighbor and I were growing some seedless white sort of grape. I removed mine a few years ago to redo the raised beds

Re: [MBZ] 240D throttle plate

2008-11-25 Thread pm7088
Throttle Plate, on a diesel? Pete -- Original message -- From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Anybody ever messed with the throttle plate on a 240D? I was a little surprised to find one when I removed the air cleaner housing... The plate was stuck shut,

Re: [MBZ] OT Biodiesel *processor* for under $3K from Northern Tool

2008-11-25 Thread Allan Streib
andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: $6/gal ??? WTF?!?! If the source material is free, then why is the biodiesel so effin' expensive?? The source material is not free anymore, people figured out that there is value in used fry oil. You have to buy the equipment to process the stuff,

Re: [MBZ] 240D throttle plate

2008-11-25 Thread Curt Raymond
Yup. Its definately a diesel and its definately a throttle plate! :) -Curt --- On Tue, 11/25/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D throttle plate To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Rusty floor well (as in oxidized, not Cullens)

2008-11-25 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 9:14 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was out of work, 15 years ago. The steel cross on exterior of our chuch had surface rust. I used EXTEND to prime it, it dries mat black. I got a job, never did paint the cross with enamel, it's still mat black and looks great.

Re: [MBZ] Rusty floor well (as in oxidized, not Cullens)

2008-11-25 Thread R A Bennell
I have not seen it around for a while but I did have a bottle of it years ago. The advertising on the bottle suggested it was used on ocean going ships to protect rusty areas from the salt water etc. It was a milky sort of liquid when in the bottle but dried to a black color. I used it on some

Re: [MBZ] Installing front shocks on my 300TD wagon - should I try this at home?

2008-11-25 Thread Curt Raymond
Jack and jack stands? Yes. Jack all alone? No. I suspect you'll want to control the lower control arm which can only be done with a jack under it. So put the car on jack stands, put the jack under the LCA put a little pressure on the LCA, unbolt the top of the shock, unbolt the bottom, remove.

Re: [MBZ] OT: online loan companies

2008-11-25 Thread Rich Thomas
RE mkt is in the tank right now, local banks do have money to loan (they were generally not too caught up in all the current mess) and you can deal with them. Get 3 quotes, call them and say this one, that one gives me this deal, what can you do? I did that a few months back, got a better

Re: [MBZ] Installing front shocks on my 300TD wagon - should I try this at home?

2008-11-25 Thread Rich Thomas
they are not under any load, just get enough room to get under at the bolts. --R andrew strasfogel wrote: Is it OK to install fornt shocks using simply a jack? I have done this under supervision in the past, with the car on a lift. 1983 300TD wagon ___

Re: [MBZ] 240D throttle plate

2008-11-25 Thread Bill R
I didn't think a diesel had a throttle plate, but I am no mechanic. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 12:16 PM To: Diesel List Subject: [MBZ] 240D throttle plate Anybody ever messed with

Re: [MBZ] Snook's next car

2008-11-25 Thread E M
End of the day, everything is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it. Offer what you think it's worth, and if that's your price, then that's what it's worth. The seller can ask or think it worth whatever they want, but as I said, it's really only worth what someone is willing to hand

Re: [MBZ] Storing SD with windshield leak

2008-11-25 Thread E M
I missed the beginning of the thread, but I think you're trying to store a car and fix the glass later? Lots of installers come to you. Why don't you just have it fixed now before storing it, then you don't have to worry about it. A lot of cars become project cars when parked with the best

Re: [MBZ] Installing front shocks on my 300TD wagon - should I try this at home?

2008-11-25 Thread Mitch Haley
Rich Thomas wrote: they are not under any load, just get enough room to get under at the bolts. If the shocks function as travel stops, I wonder if it would be feasible to undo the lower mounts while the car is on ramps. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For

Re: [MBZ] 240D throttle plate

2008-11-25 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Yesmy 220d has one as well. I wonder if it helps with compression braking in some way. Mike -Original Message- Date: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 12:18:11 pm To: [EMAIL PROTECTED],Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D throttle

Re: [MBZ] 240D throttle plate

2008-11-25 Thread Loren Faeth
On the older (Roughly pre-1980) 4cyl Diesels with the swing tube intake manifolds, there were two devices in the intake, where the hose from the air cleaner connects. One balances flapper was the anti-reverse rotation device, designed to close and shut off the engine with back pressure if the

Re: [MBZ] OT: The West Wing

2008-11-25 Thread andrew strasfogel
That's G*d's country. How is it possible to make bad wine there? On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 12:18 PM, Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Olympia, WA On 11/25/08, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where does Clay live? The south? On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 11:23 AM, Redghost

Re: [MBZ] Rusty floor well (as in oxidized, not Cullens)

2008-11-25 Thread andrew strasfogel
Home Despot, for one, or your local hardware store. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] 240D throttle plate

2008-11-25 Thread Curt Raymond
Basically what I thought was true as well, good write up. So where is the model number on the engine, I'm curious if I've got an older engine or older intake manifold. It sounds like I could lock the plate open and be okay although a search on Mercedes Shop seems to indicate if I'm wrong and

Re: [MBZ] Installing front shocks on my 300TD wagon - should I try this at home?

2008-11-25 Thread andrew strasfogel
OK people, I neglected to ask what tools I will need. On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 1:17 PM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rich Thomas wrote: they are not under any load, just get enough room to get under at the bolts. If the shocks function as travel stops, I wonder if it would be

Re: [MBZ] Installing front shocks on my 300TD wagon - should I try this at home?

2008-11-25 Thread Rolf
It would be pretty hard to get under and in there with the tires on. Stands and a jack are the way to go. Pretty easy job over all. With the rears you have to take the back seat out and all kinds of other PITA things. -Rolf Mitch Haley wrote: Rich Thomas wrote: they are not under any load,

Re: [MBZ] Installing front shocks on my 300TD wagon - should I try this at home?

2008-11-25 Thread Rolf
I think a 12pt 12mm (10? 13? must be 12pt) for the lower bolts. 17 (19?) mm*2 for the top. A ratcheting box end for the top is tits. I use a 6mm wrench on the flat spots on the shock top to keep it from turning. -Rolf andrew strasfogel wrote: OK people, I neglected to ask what tools I will

Re: [MBZ] Installing front shocks on my 300TD wagon - should I try this at home?

2008-11-25 Thread Mitch Haley
Rolf wrote: I think a 12pt 12mm (10? 13? must be 12pt) for the lower bolts. 17 (19?) mm*2 for the top. A ratcheting box end for the top is tits. I use a 6mm wrench on the flat spots on the shock top to keep it from turning. Is it a typical twelve point (double hex) or the more popular MBZ

Re: [MBZ] Installing front shocks on my 300TD wagon - should I try this at home?

2008-11-25 Thread Rich Thomas
A couple of socket wrenches of the appropriate size (6 pt are best), and maybe a crescent or locking pliers to hold the upper shock bolt from turning when you take the top nuts off. It is a pretty easy job. Make sure you look at how all the rubber bits and washers are on there so you can put

Re: [MBZ] Installing front shocks on my 300TD wagon - should I try this at home?

2008-11-25 Thread Rolf
The lower bolts on mine were 12pointed. -Rolf Rich Thomas wrote: A couple of socket wrenches of the appropriate size (6 pt are best), and maybe a crescent or locking pliers to hold the upper shock bolt from turning when you take the top nuts off. It is a pretty easy job. Make sure you look

Re: [MBZ] Installing front shocks on my 300TD wagon - should I try this at home?

2008-11-25 Thread Rolf
12pt socket worked properly. Mitch Haley wrote: Rolf wrote: I think a 12pt 12mm (10? 13? must be 12pt) for the lower bolts. 17 (19?) mm*2 for the top. A ratcheting box end for the top is tits. I use a 6mm wrench on the flat spots on the shock top to keep it from turning. Is it a typical

Re: [MBZ] Installing front shocks on my 300TD wagon - should I try this at home?

2008-11-25 Thread Curt Raymond
Whats so hard about the rears? The seat bottom is easy, the back is 3 bolts. The shocks are easy except holding the top of the shaft with vice grips, I need to get needlenose vice grips before I do them again... The bottom bolts on the rears are easy, on the fronts they look challenging... I

Re: [MBZ] OT Biodiesel *processor* for under $3K from Northern Tool

2008-11-25 Thread Tom Hargrave
The source material is not free never was free. The oil dragged from behind most restaurants for free actually belongs to whichever rendering company the restaurant has a contract will and just because they don't care does not mean the rendering company does not care. The rendering companies

Re: [MBZ] Installing front shocks on my 300TD wagon - should I try this at home?

2008-11-25 Thread Rich Thomas
I don't recall that but you are probably right. I always suggest 6 pt sockets so you don't round over the heads, but Benz probably has that covered... --R Rolf wrote: The lower bolts on mine were 12pointed. -Rolf Rich Thomas wrote: A couple of socket wrenches of the appropriate size

Re: [MBZ] OT Biodiesel *processor* for under $3K from Northern Tool

2008-11-25 Thread E M
Yeah, and on top of all that, the stuff doesn't work well in your 6.3 or 6.9, so what good is it really? hee hee Ed 300E 2008/11/25 Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] The source material is not free never was free. The oil dragged from behind most restaurants for free actually belongs to

Re: [MBZ] Installing front shocks on my 300TD wagon - should I try this at home?

2008-11-25 Thread Rich Thomas
On my buddy's 79 SL if I recall there were some big rubber bump stop things but they weren't engaged with the car just sitting, only after some travel. --R Mitch Haley wrote: Rich Thomas wrote: they are not under any load, just get enough room to get under at the bolts. If the shocks

Re: [MBZ] Installing front shocks on my 300TD wagon - should I try this at home?

2008-11-25 Thread harry watkins
My 300 SDL front shocks have a rubber bump stop. It does not come with the new shock kit, about $8 each I think. They may last a long time before RR is needed, but I couldn't tell condition until I was in there. Harry On my buddy's 79 SL if I recall there were some big rubber bump stop

Re: [MBZ] Installing front shocks on my 300TD wagon - should I try this at home?

2008-11-25 Thread Mitch Haley
harry watkins wrote: My 300 SDL front shocks have a rubber bump stop. It does not come with the new shock kit, about $8 each I think. They may last a long time before RR is needed, but I couldn't tell condition until I was in there. I was referring to a rebound stop. Is there something that

[MBZ] Snook's CURRENT CAR

2008-11-25 Thread Donald Snook
Well, I got the Cadillac. I love it! Here is a picture of one like it. Mine has better paint (very nice Silver) and a maroon interior. http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:1989-93_Cadillac_DeVille.jpg Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For

Re: [MBZ] Snook's CURRENT CAR

2008-11-25 Thread E M
Congrats on the new car, hope you both travel many happy miles together. :-) Ed 300E 2008/11/25 Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, I got the Cadillac. I love it! Here is a picture of one like it. Mine has better paint (very nice Silver) and a maroon interior.

Re: [MBZ] Installing front shocks on my 300TD wagon - should I try this at home?

2008-11-25 Thread Rolf
It's all fun and games until you lose the bolt or rubber stop in the tank area. :) Mostly it's just more time consuming. -Rolf Curt Raymond wrote: Whats so hard about the rears? The seat bottom is easy, the back is 3 bolts. The shocks are easy except holding the top of the shaft with vice

Re: [MBZ] Installing front shocks on my 300TD wagon - should I try this at home?

2008-11-25 Thread Rolf
The Bilsteins come with em for the W123. -Rolf harry watkins wrote: My 300 SDL front shocks have a rubber bump stop. It does not come with the new shock kit, about $8 each I think. They may last a long time before RR is needed, but I couldn't tell condition until I was in there. Harry

Re: [MBZ] Installing front shocks on my 300TD wagon - should I try this at home?

2008-11-25 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
yea as long as you have a jackstand under it also andrew strasfogel wrote: Is it OK to install fornt shocks using simply a jack? I have done this under supervision in the past, with the car on a lift. 1983 300TD wagon ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new

Re: [MBZ] Snook's CURRENT CAR

2008-11-25 Thread andrew strasfogel
Let us know what sort of fuel economy you get and whether it needs premium or regular gas. On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 2:48 PM, E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Congrats on the new car, hope you both travel many happy miles together. :-) Ed 300E 2008/11/25 Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well,

Re: [MBZ] 240D throttle plate

2008-11-25 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I do know the 82-83 240D has that plate deal. Im not really sure what its for. On cars with the problem you have, I always have just blocked it open. Curt Raymond wrote: Basically what I thought was true as well, good write up. So where is the model number on the engine, I'm curious if I've

Re: [MBZ] Snook's CURRENT CAR

2008-11-25 Thread Donald Snook
Ed wrote: Congrats on the new car, hope you both travel many happy miles together. :-) Thanks, Ed. I forgot to mention the price. I paid $1779 -- $1900 with the tax. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor:

Re: [MBZ] Snook's CURRENT CAR

2008-11-25 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
probably not too bad if its as nice as you say. Donald Snook wrote: Ed wrote: Congrats on the new car, hope you both travel many happy miles together. :-) Thanks, Ed. I forgot to mention the price. I paid $1779 -- $1900 with the tax. Donald H. Snook

Re: [MBZ] Snook's CURRENT CAR

2008-11-25 Thread R A Bennell
Anybody want to place bets on how long Donald keeps the Caddie? How long was the Volvo with us - a couple of months? How long was the Buick with us - less than the Volvo I think. What was it before that? Wasn't there an Explorer in the mix or was that the Expedition that his wife is driving?

Re: [MBZ] 240D throttle plate

2008-11-25 Thread Mitch Haley
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I do know the 82-83 240D has that plate deal. Im not really sure what its for. On cars with the problem you have, I always have just blocked it open. Isn't the purpose of that plate to generate some manifold vacuum to help the EGR system draw exhaust into the

Re: [MBZ] OT - faucet

2008-11-25 Thread Anthony Galioto
If it's a Delta the single handle must come off first. It has an allen key in the rear then just lift off. The rest screws off. Anthony On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 9:53 AM, Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Thanks, that's what I've been thinking, too, but still not even sure the bonnet

Re: [MBZ] Snook's CURRENT CAR

2008-11-25 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 11:37 AM, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I got the Cadillac. I love it! I didn't realize until I looked at the Wikipedia page that was one of the FWD Caddys. I bet it feels just like your Buick only bigger. Is the V-8 longitudinal, like its distant

Re: [MBZ] Snook's CURRENT CAR

2008-11-25 Thread Wonko the Sane
This will be him by New Year's Eve. http://web.ard.de/galerie/bilderpool/boulevard/2007/bean/beanserie.jpg On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 2:15 PM, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anybody want to place bets on how long Donald keeps the Caddie? How long was the Volvo with us - a couple of

[MBZ] Car Trading

2008-11-25 Thread R A Bennell
So Snook's car trading has me thinking. How many of you folks really trade often? I know I see Kaleb buying and keeping for a bit and then finding something else and a couple of you folks seem to trade cars back and forth but nobody seems into it like our lawyer friend in Kansas. I guess I am

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