That's G*d's country.  How is it possible to make bad wine there?

On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 12:18 PM, Alex Chamberlain
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> Olympia, WA
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>
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> On 11/25/08, andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Where does Clay live?  The south?
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 11:23 AM, Redghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> Neighbor and I were growing some seedless white sort of grape.  I
> removed
> >> mine a few years ago to redo the raised beds and now have a great sunny
> >> stonewalled area to plant them again.  I have had some luck with red
> >> grapes,
> >> but more for eating than wine.  Neighbor tried to make wine with his,
> and
> >> ended up getting a crate shipped so he could have a real crush.  NASTY
> >> WINE
> >>
> >> clay
> >>
> >> On Nov 24, 2008, at 10:45 PM, Jim Cathey wrote:
> >>
> >>  As for the Marionberry/blackberry....  What sort of soil is it planted
> >>>> in?
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Pine tree potting soil.  At least, so it seems based
> >>> upon its behavior.  Can't keep the pine trees from sprouting
> >>> up everywhere.  Decomposed granite, very well drained.
> >>> The lawn area, where they touched upon, had some kind of
> >>> topsoil trucked in, IMHO.  Probably lake bed muck from
> >>> the nearby drained (20's) lake.
> >>>
> >>> I am thinking it wants something peaty and moister.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> They were right on the edge of the lawn, with drippers.
> >>>
> >>> Being a real blackberry and not that invasive chinese sort, it needs
> more
> >>>> care and good feeding.  Bound to be warm enough by you for summer
> >>>> growth.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Care?  Feeding?  Hmm, maybe I should try that sometime.
> >>>
> >>> I just moved them out of the yard and over near the little
> >>> greenhouse.  There's a water line there, too.  I had to move
> >>> them or the excavator'd probably trample them.
> >>>
> >>> I am investigating western washington grape growing so I can plant my
> >>>> vineyard.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Don't hold your breath.  My dad's been trying to grow Pinot Noir
> >>> for years.  It's holding on, but the growing season is just a little
> >>> too short for them to ripen all the way, most years.  This is a bit
> >>> north of Portland.  Pinot does well south of Portland, but not to
> >>> the north.  You're in worse shape, at least so far as the traditional
> >>> wine grapes I'm aware of.  You could probably make some nice Concord
> >>> wine...
> >>>
> >>> -- Jim
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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