Re: [MBZ] restoration or patina

2010-10-06 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
Yes but a low mileage original mundane car like a 240D is worth a lot more than any restored one. Same applies for middle of the road collector cars like pagodas. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 5, 2010, at 11:56 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: ...Original cars are always worth more, and will increase

Re: [MBZ] OT: Garage Door problems

2010-10-06 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
Randy, I closely compared the two doors, but the difference between the bad and the good was not obvious - they BOTH seem to have a lot of slop/play in my opinion. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of R A

Re: [MBZ] OT: Garage Door problems

2010-10-06 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
Thanks Philip, that sounds like something I can attempt rather easily. Method should work fine, I'm hoping that the adjustment mechanism for tension of the cables is a reasonable one. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On

Re: [MBZ] 300SD feel every bump

2010-10-06 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
I've got one. It's been rebuilt once (still leaked down), and it is still on the mount. How does $25 sound? I think that there is an extra o-ring inside the small round valve assembly that I missed when I rebuilt this one. I had the kit of new o-rings from MB, but circumstances beyond my control

Re: [MBZ] OT: Garage Door problems

2010-10-06 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
I'll double check them, but I'm pretty sure they all are free to move. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dieselhead Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 9:09 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT:

Re: [MBZ] 617 Manual Flywheel Measurements

2010-10-06 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
STD sounds interesting, Schuman site does not sound appealing to me. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Walt Zarnoch Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 4:48 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 617

Re: [MBZ] Way OT: Recipes for Pickled hot peppers and pole beans

2010-10-06 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
Yes, indeed it does! I know just the fellow to provide objective culinary reporting - let me check with the Social Director to see when we can fit you in. Last night was Chicken Alfredo made with left-overs, so it was chicken/sausage/steak alfredo with peas, but still more tasty and

Re: [MBZ] '94 E420 Ignition Cable Question

2010-10-06 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
Yeah, they're just too expensive to justify. Its a tool to borrow for sure! I was just explaining what the factory way to make wires is. You can probably find aftermarket wires already made from Rusty and such, but would have to buy the complete set. Jaime On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 9:55 PM,

Re: [MBZ] Way OT: Recipes for Pickled hot peppers and pole beans

2010-10-06 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
I think that the mistake most Italian restaurants make is (1) not using fresh ingredients and (2) too many spices. Good olive oil, fresh tomatoes/garlic/basil/parsley, a little salt, maybe a few other minor spices are about all that is needed (fennel - that's the other one I was thinking of).

Re: [MBZ] Way OT: Recipes for Pickled hot peppers and pole beans

2010-10-06 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
Of course, I'll ask The Cook to make something that doesn't include left-overs! -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,53310 Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2010 7:40 AM To:

[MBZ] CarFax anyone?

2010-10-06 Thread pm7088
Looking very hard at a Dodge P/U at an independent dealer, I get nervous dealing with these fellows. Vin # 3D7KR28C17G724641 -- Peter T. Arnold P.M. x3 All Mail to: Secretary Hartford Evergreen Lodge #88 A.F. A.M. 34 Country Club Drive Windsor, CT 06095

Re: [MBZ] CarFax anyone?

2010-10-06 Thread Mitch Haley
pm7...@comcast.net wrote: Looking very hard at a Dodge P/U at an independent dealer, I get nervous dealing with these fellows. Vin # 3D7KR28C17G724641 I thought it'd become standard for dealers to have unlimited Carfax subscriptions and hand out the reports?

Re: [MBZ] '94 E420 Ignition Cable Question

2010-10-06 Thread Curt Raymond
Hmm, snowmobiles use threaded caps, I wonder how different they are? Of course snowmobile wires are real stranded wire inside. -Curt Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2010 18:51:44 -0500 From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] '94 E420 Ignition

Re: [MBZ] Garlic

2010-10-06 Thread Curt Raymond
Interestingly, since I don't particularly care for garlic (I don't mind it but I don't go out of my way to use it), I am right at this moment wearing my Garlic Arts festival tee-shirt... http://www.garlicandarts.org/ -Curt Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2010 20:46:05 -0500 From: Dieselhead

Re: [MBZ] Anyone in the Atlanta area want to check out a car?

2010-10-06 Thread Curt Raymond
I'll disagree right back, I'd much prefer patina over restoration. Of course theres a fine line between patina and dirt... -Curt Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2010 22:38:25 -0400 From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anyone in the

Re: [MBZ] CarFax anyone?

2010-10-06 Thread pm7088
I have an inherent distrust of used car dealers. -- Peter Arnold Windsor, CT - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, October 6, 2010 9:42:09 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] CarFax anyone?

[MBZ] Restoration or Patina

2010-10-06 Thread theprofil...@dwx.com
My brother has a '42 International KB7 5-ton stake bed that he uses almost daily for various chores, including pulling a rolling chassis of a semitractor a few hunderd miles, and hauling everything from rock to antique machinery. It was slathered with flat white latex house paint decades ago

Re: [MBZ] Restoration or Patina

2010-10-06 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 7:26 AM, theprofil...@dwx.com theprofil...@dwx.com wrote: my brother looks like Pa Joad after a rough day (gets a haircut every couple years, shaves maybe once a week, greasy overalls, jack-shirts that look like they've been run through a limb chipper) What does he do

Re: [MBZ] Restoration or Patina

2010-10-06 Thread Curt Raymond
When I was in high school my great uncle had a KB-5 which I guess was a 2 1/2 ton. A kid I was in school with had access to a brandy new Chevy 4x4 dually 1 ton 454ci that he said could pull anything. I challenged him and showed up with the KB-5 loaded right to the roof with logs due for

Re: [MBZ] CarFax anyone?

2010-10-06 Thread R A Bennell
For what it is worth, I suspect the average used car dealer knows little more about the cars on the lot than you do. They buy them at auction and put them on the lot for sale. I don't think most will do much to the vehicle apart from cleaning until a deal is made. I have bought 2 used F150's

Re: [MBZ] Finite Rust

2010-10-06 Thread andrew strasfogel
Thanks for the advice. On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 5:32 PM, theprofil...@dwx.com theprofil...@dwx.comwrote: Andrew wrote: I would rather deal with finite rust There is no such thing as finite rust. Rust is infinite. Rust never sleeps. by the time you can see it--and WAY before the time a

Re: [MBZ] Anyone in the Atlanta area want to check out a car?

2010-10-06 Thread andrew strasfogel
I'm allergic to smell. I will admit that an original, rust free car that is still nice is preferable to a glossy resto-mod. On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 9:58 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: I'll disagree right back, I'd much prefer patina over restoration. Of course theres a fine line

Re: [MBZ] Garlic

2010-10-06 Thread andrew strasfogel
Wow, what a great link. :)) Any idea which of these folks would sell me some organic garlic cloves to plant in the back 40? On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 9:53 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Interestingly, since I don't particularly care for garlic (I don't mind it but I don't go out

Re: [MBZ] Restoration or Patina

2010-10-06 Thread Mitch Haley
Curt Raymond wrote: When I was in high school my great uncle had a KB-5 which I guess was a 2 1/2 ton. A kid I was in school with had access to a brandy new Chevy 4x4 dually 1 ton 454ci that he said could pull anything. I challenged him and showed up with the KB-5 loaded right to the roof

Re: [MBZ] Garlic

2010-10-06 Thread Walt Zarnoch
If you want I can get some of my great uncle's stock for you next time we braid, won't be till next fall though. Walt On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 11:23 AM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Wow, what a great link.  :)) Any idea which of these folks would sell me some organic garlic

Re: [MBZ] OT I go on a B17

2010-10-06 Thread Rich Thomas
That is probably right, all I remember is that they were noisy, smoky, and blew oil out the stacks and dripped from every other place. You could always tell where it had been parked on the ramp. The pilot, not sure he owned it or leased it, was about 6'6 and weighed over 300lb, he was huge.

[MBZ] Wanted: 124 back seat cushion foam to fit in a '95

2010-10-06 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
Does anyone have the foam part of a 124 back seat cushion? Mine has a terrible odor and IT MUST GO! Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 320k miles '95 E300 274k miles (project) '73 Balboa 20 Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used

Re: [MBZ] Wanted: 124 back seat cushion foam to fit in a '95

2010-10-06 Thread Mitch Haley
Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: Does anyone have the foam part of a 124 back seat cushion? Mine has a terrible odor and IT MUST GO! http://nil-odor.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To

Re: [MBZ] Garlic

2010-10-06 Thread andrew strasfogel
That garlic must be in great demand! I once purchased a braid of organic garlic from the famous gardener Joe Nestasie in PA - awesome stuff. On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 11:38 AM, Walt Zarnoch zarnoch...@gmail.com wrote: If you want I can get some of my great uncle's stock for you next time we

Re: [MBZ] Wanted: 124 back seat cushion foam to fit in a '95

2010-10-06 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
Mitch, Thanks, but this is a mold/mildew problem, not detectable to my nose but the spores cause respiratory distress for my wife. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Wednesday, October 06,

[MBZ] Query re: Clogged AC condensate drain(s) on W123 300CD

2010-10-06 Thread andrew strasfogel
We drove her 1985 300CD all over VA wine country last weekend on the hottest late September of all time, with the AC running full blast. Next time she took out the car the floor mat was completely soaked. Since the car didn't go through any rainstorms I am assuming that the AC condensate exit(s)

Re: [MBZ] Wanted: 124 back seat cushion foam to fit in a '95

2010-10-06 Thread R A Bennell
Yuck! That stuff smells awful too! Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2010 12:34 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wanted: 124 back seat cushion foam to

Re: [MBZ] Garlic

2010-10-06 Thread Curt Raymond
They're all good folks. I'd start with Seeds of Solidarity http://www.seedsofsolidarity.org/ but any in the list should be fine. -Curt Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2010 11:23:54 -0400 From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Garlic

Re: [MBZ] Restoration or Patina

2010-10-06 Thread Curt Raymond
I doubt it, I think he probably still believes the bigger engine wins in all cases... -Curt Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2010 11:34:47 -0400 From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Restoration or Patina Message-ID:

Re: [MBZ] Garlic

2010-10-06 Thread Walt Zarnoch
We usually freeze ours, but we've got a few un-frozen bulbs in the root cellar. Just need to find a way to get you a few toes that won't cost 5 bucks to ship. :/ Walt On Oct 6, 2010 2:43 PM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: That garlic must be in great demand! I once purchased a

[MBZ] Patina

2010-10-06 Thread theprofil...@dwx.com
Flat bed trucker! On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 7:26 AM, theprofil...@dwx.com theprofil...@dwx.com wrote: my brother looks like Pa Joad after a rough day (gets a haircut every couple years, shaves maybe once a week, greasy overalls, jack-shirts that look like they've been run through a limb

Re: [MBZ] Garlic

2010-10-06 Thread andrew strasfogel
How about bartering for a jar of jalapeno pepper jelly, made with organically grown hot peppers and no unnatural resources? On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 3:29 PM, Walt Zarnoch zarnoch...@gmail.com wrote: We usually freeze ours, but we've got a few un-frozen bulbs in the root cellar. Just need to find

Re: [MBZ] Garlic

2010-10-06 Thread Rich Thomas
Is that stuff grown in el merde del gato? --R On 10/6/2010 4:47 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: How about bartering for a jar of jalapeno pepper jelly, made with organically grown hot peppers and no unnatural resources? On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 3:29 PM, Walt Zarnochzarnoch...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [MBZ] Restoration or Patina

2010-10-06 Thread R A Bennell
Good thing he did not chanllenge you to a drag race. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2010 1:27 PM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Restoration or Patina I doubt

Re: [MBZ] Garlic

2010-10-06 Thread Fmiser
andrew strasfogel wrote: Wow, what a great link. :)) Any idea which of these folks would sell me some organic garlic cloves to plant in the back 40? How much do you want? -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to

Re: [MBZ] Garlic

2010-10-06 Thread andrew strasfogel
Not really. On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 4:56 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Is that stuff grown in el merde del gato? --R On 10/6/2010 4:47 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: How about bartering for a jar of jalapeno pepper jelly, made with organically grown hot

Re: [MBZ] slobs must work too

2010-10-06 Thread RELNGSON
What does he do for a living?  System administrator?Alex IT Manager, likely. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options

Re: [MBZ] R-985

2010-10-06 Thread OK Don
And the D-17, which I WISH was in my log book! On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 10:31 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: ...Those were PW R985s - 9 cylinders each, 450HP, IIRC. Checked it - there were at least four different engines on various versions of the D-18, but I think the R985 was the most

Re: [MBZ] Way OT: Recipes for Pickled hot peppers and pole beans

2010-10-06 Thread OK Don
Most of the Italian resturants I've eaten in think that openinga can of tomaotes and dumping it on pasta constitutes good food. They have never heard of spices, much less fresh anything. On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 7:39 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil

Re: [MBZ] Restoration or Patina

2010-10-06 Thread R A Bennell
Or me to a spelling contest obviously. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of R A Bennell Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2010 3:15 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Restoration or Patina Good thing

[MBZ] 'Till we meet again

2010-10-06 Thread Peter T. Arnold
I'll be disappearing for a while. We are readying for our retirement relocation {Texas} and some things just are not fitting on my plate. Made some great electronic friends here, had a great 300SDL that I bought from Rusty and drove about 100Kmi. I loved it but I am in no shape to maintain

Re: [MBZ] 'Till we meet again

2010-10-06 Thread Mitch Haley
Peter T. Arnold wrote: Diesel? We're in process of getting a newer P/U to tow our 14k fifth wheel. I'll still hear clattering. http://lansing.craigslist.org/cto/1988012329.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To

Re: [MBZ] 'Till we meet again

2010-10-06 Thread buymbparts
Peter, congratulations and good luck! Please stay in touch and stay healthy. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld -Original Message- From: Peter T. Arnold pm7...@comcast.net Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2010 18:46:41 To: Mercedes Discussion

Re: [MBZ] restoration or patina

2010-10-06 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
Yes Roger, thats true... a true restoration like you're talking about is another story. But its very rare, arguably impossible, to acheive 100% factory original condition. Show the cars to some oldtimers (people, not cars) who were there and they'll show you something that isn't correct on the

Re: [MBZ] restoration or patina

2010-10-06 Thread E M
In a proper 100 point restoration, they will duplicate everything, including the flaws during manufacture like over spray, and orange peel. A stock standard Mustang came with something like 12 different shades of black on various parts, as the parts were painted at different times by different

Re: [MBZ] 'Till we meet again

2010-10-06 Thread E M
Take care Peter, and all the best for your retirement in Texas! Pop in to Starbucks on a regular bases, as they have Wifi. ;-) Be sure to keep in touch with us all, never know when that next must have Benz will pop up. :-) Take care, and all the best, Ed 300E On 6 October 2010 18:46, Peter T.

Re: [MBZ] garlic in Gilroy

2010-10-06 Thread RELNGSON
Driving through Gilroy on the Interstate is always a pleasure because of the garlic odors wafting across the highway from the big plant at the south end of town. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list

Re: [MBZ] round sounds

2010-10-06 Thread RELNGSON
...And the D-17, which I WISH was in my log book!.. Well, yes, and the sound of idling radials, the more the better, eclipses the vacuum cleaner sounds turbines make. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To

[MBZ] Sad MB Day

2010-10-06 Thread Tim C
I lost my first MB - '74 240D, the only one selected, approved, negotiated (if cashier's check for asking = negotiate :), and nominally owned by SWMBO - today to the Kidney Foundation, and, no doubt, the crusher. I knew it was going to happen - actually thought it was going to happen yesterday -

Re: [MBZ] Way OT: Recipes for Pickled hot peppers and pole beans

2010-10-06 Thread Mountain Man
andrew wrote: Gilroy, CA - the garlic capital of the world. It was several years ago that I heard a story about Gilroy. They import all their garlic from communist china. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search

Re: [MBZ] Way OT: Recipes for Pickled hot peppers and pole beans

2010-10-06 Thread Peter Frederick
They sure didn't 30 years ago when I was there during garlic harvest season! Heaps of garlic drying in the fields for mile after mile! Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] round sounds

2010-10-06 Thread OK Don
Also the putt-putt sounds the 4 cyl. opposed engines make. Amen to the round engines. A friend of a friend owns a new Waco (reproduction?) with an R755 - 275hp I believe - I need wrangle a ride one of these days. Don't they say that real airplanes have round engines, just like real radios glow in

Re: [MBZ] Sad MB Day

2010-10-06 Thread Mitch Haley
Does this make you feel better? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rv2-DYgzcY ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] garlic in the Lowcountry

2010-10-06 Thread Rich Thomas
All this garlic talk got me thinking about supper earlier, so I went to the store and got some fresh local shrimp and linguine, and hit the farm stand across the road for some veggies and got some fresh corn. Had to go back to the store for some white wine (I thought I had some but it appears

Re: [MBZ] Query re: Clogged AC condensate drain(s) on W123 300CD

2010-10-06 Thread Jim Cathey
go through any rainstorms I am assuming that the AC condensate exit(s) must be blocked. Where are thse drains, and how do I de-clog it/them? They exit over the tranny, one can poke them out from below using stiff wire, etc. I believe they are formed rubber drains that exit from hard plastic

Re: [MBZ] resto

2010-10-06 Thread RELNGSON
...Yes Roger, thats true... a true restoration like you're talking about is another story.  But its very rare, arguably impossible, to acheive 100% factory original condition.  Show the cars to some oldtimers (people, not cars) who were there and they'll show you something that isn't correct

Re: [MBZ] more resto

2010-10-06 Thread RELNGSON
...But as they say, you can restore a car as many times as you like, but it's only original once.  As with each passing year, those originals left, whatever they are, become fewer and fewer, hence the value due to rarity... Very true but there are very few of those, far as I can see. My

Re: [MBZ] Chinese?

2010-10-06 Thread RELNGSON
...It was several years ago that I heard a story about Gilroy. They import all their garlic from communist china... Admit it. You have been reading your copy of the Chinese Daily Worker, right? RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to