Re: [MBZ] on topic 300td

2012-08-20 Thread Fmiser
andrew strasfogel wrote: If they are hideously expensive new, as I suspect, I would simply purchase several used ones. I'm remembering $400 or so. But that was a few years ago now so my memory may be exaggerating the price. What's involved in the R/R of the rear SLS valve? Fairly easy to

Re: [MBZ] occupying the 3rd row.

2012-08-20 Thread Mitch Haley
Dieselhead wrote: people are regularly burned to death or worse in modern gassers made by asian and american automakers using in tank electric fuel pumps. Back in the 1970s, a typical Bosch K-jetronic setup had a fuel pump relay that required a tachometer signal to run. If the engine died

Re: [MBZ] 1984 300D fuel injector operation

2012-08-20 Thread Rusty Cullens
Those lines come with the connectors on them. I do sell them. -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mike Esh Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2012 9:06 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re:

Re: [MBZ] occupying the 3rd row.

2012-08-20 Thread Dieselhead
That might explain how it happens. I have never heard any explanation. I see many more burned spots on the side of the road than I ever used to. A lot of the burnouts I have seen don't seem to be involved with an accident. Diesel is inherently safer. Spill a quarter cup of gasoline on the

Re: [MBZ] on topic 300td

2012-08-20 Thread andrew strasfogel
Very clear directions - thanks! I'm flattered you think me capable of doing this job. Far from it, although my French pal down the block performs all the own heavy duty work on his W113 280SL and W111 280SE 3.5 coupe. This comprises engine and axle R/R and the modifications they entail to

Re: [MBZ] on topic 300td

2012-08-20 Thread Dieselhead
Might be wise to soak the flare nuts with your choice of effective rust buster for 1-7 days ahead of time. I am still a believer in the mopar stuff. I think it is better than the ATF/acetone treatment. Very clear directions - thanks! I'm flattered you think me capable of doing this job.

Re: [MBZ] on topic 300td

2012-08-20 Thread Gerry Archer
Acetone/ATF is pretty good, but IMO good quality lacquer thinner/ATF is better. It worked well on some brake lines that seemed impossible. Lacquer thinner is a combination of toluene, xylene, and MEK (methyl ethyl keytone). Cheap lacquer thinner found in stores like Lowes, Home Depot, and

Re: [MBZ] Lost again?

2012-08-20 Thread Max Dillon
Ah, ok, thanks. I was using what the Navy taught me, figuring that Wilton was probably taught something similar. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 19:49:23 -0400 Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: 5 by 5 refers to

Re: [MBZ] Not a haggis fan

2012-08-20 Thread Randy Bennell
On 18/08/2012 5:11 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: ...Roger must be a Scot. Gerrypart Scot.. I'm a Norwegian. Pass the herring. RLE ___ I beleive I am more Norwegian than Scottish (sp?) but, I will take the Haggis over the Herring. Randy whose

Re: [MBZ] Lost again?

2012-08-20 Thread WILTON
Yep, but I always used the terms loud and clear, breaking up, weak, garbled, Roger, etc. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 11:46 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost

Re: [MBZ] I buy a gl

2012-08-20 Thread Randy Bennell
On 15/08/2012 10:02 PM, Dieselhead wrote: In spite of the harrassment, Congrats! I hope it is good and reliable for you. Better wheels than our up and coming lawyer. Much as I love Diesel power, I have to say that for new stuff, I'd probably just get a gasser. The premium for the Diesel

Re: [MBZ] Lost again?

2012-08-20 Thread WILTON
Oh, and Say, again. 'Don't remember ever saying, Willco. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 11:53 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost again? Yep, but I always used the terms loud and

Re: [MBZ] Lost again?

2012-08-20 Thread Rich Thomas
Roger, Roger, what's the vector Victor? -R On 8/20/2012 11:57 AM, WILTON wrote: Oh, and Say, again. 'Don't remember ever saying, Willco. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012

Re: [MBZ] Lost again?

2012-08-20 Thread WILTON
BTW, in my very early days of flight training 62 years ago, including Morse code, I was in bathroom at home one evening, when I realized I did not have adequate supply of toilet tissue. I began to send oral distress signal to SWMBO with appropriate high-pitched tone, Dit, dit, dit - dah, dah,

Re: [MBZ] I buy a gl

2012-08-20 Thread Randy Bennell
On 16/08/2012 9:57 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Gl320 cdi, white with parchment, fully loaded with everything. That diesel puts out 400lb of torque at like 1600. Very quiet and smooth Sent from my iPhone My next door neighbors have a silver one. Not sure what year. Does not exhibit the

Re: [MBZ] 69 mpg Prius

2012-08-20 Thread Randy Bennell
On 16/08/2012 12:40 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: They use kilometers for miles, and they are a lot shorter. It really confuses the calculation. --R Not really. Usually indicated as liters per hundred kilometers. Lower numbers are thus better. I am old enough that I convert in order to know

Re: [MBZ] I buy a gl

2012-08-20 Thread Randy Bennell
I thought the standard fix was to fill the cavity between the springs with pool noodes. Randy On 16/08/2012 1:46 PM, Allan Streib wrote: To clarify I'm not looking for a pillow or cushion to put on top of the seat... I'm thinking of an airbag under the seat that would support it like the

Re: [MBZ] Lost again?

2012-08-20 Thread WILTON
Oops! That was 52 years ago, not 62. Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 12:41 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost again? BTW, in my very early days of flight training 62 years ago,

[MBZ] OT - TVs

2012-08-20 Thread WILTON
'Put the 13 CRT TV out at curb at noon; 'just looked out; it's gone - 'bout an hour. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery

Re: [MBZ] Lost again?

2012-08-20 Thread Gerry Archer
The original Morse code was far more interesting to transmit and receive. There was no tone; only clicks. Sister worked as a (Multiplex?) operator for the C O railway in Richmond during WW-2 with a randy group of old telegraphers who were still using the original Morse. She was a fast typist

Re: [MBZ] I buy a gl

2012-08-20 Thread Allan Streib
Hadn't heard of that, but sounds workable. I'll give it a try. Allan On Mon, Aug 20, 2012, at 12:51 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: I thought the standard fix was to fill the cavity between the springs with pool noodes. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] I buy a gl

2012-08-20 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Yes it is very quiet does not sound like a diesel like we are used to. Mine does not require the urea. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 20, 2012, at 11:45 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: On 16/08/2012 9:57 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Gl320 cdi, white with parchment, fully loaded with

Re: [MBZ] Lost again?

2012-08-20 Thread Frederick Moir
I'll take Hamm on 5 and hold the Mayo!   Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 12:23 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost again? Roger,

Re: [MBZ] Lost again?

2012-08-20 Thread ernest breakfield
original Morse code? clicks? sounds like a common misconception; reality is that Morse code is made up of signals of varying length and timing (be they sent by tone, or light). it's possible to use tones to substitute for short or long signals, but reading code of just identical clicks

Re: [MBZ] Lost again?

2012-08-20 Thread Fmiser
Gerry Archer wrote: The original Morse code was far more interesting to transmit and receive. There was no tone; only clicks. Correct - about the clicks. Is it more interesting? I dunno. Early on there were few different flavors. Vail, Prussian, Bain. By 1865 or so most of the variations

Re: [MBZ] I buy a gl

2012-08-20 Thread Dieselhead
Standard thing is to buy a passenger seat at the junkyard, then use the bottom spring out of it to fix your seat. One time I bought one from TriStar Pete for about $30 because i couldn't find one locally. You want the pass seat because they generally get less use. Hadn't heard of that,

Re: [MBZ] passenger miles

2012-08-20 Thread RELNGSON
3rd seat in a MB wagon, especially Diesel, is safer than in any seat in a toada (and probably if you study the statistics, more people are killed in porches per passenger mile, than MB wagons).. Using passenger miles to try to prove something, and no one does any more, provides skewed

Re: [MBZ] Lost again?

2012-08-20 Thread Fmiser
Gerry Archer wrote: The original Morse code was far more interesting to transmit and receive. There was no tone; only clicks. ernest breakfield wrote: original Morse code? clicks? sounds like a common misconception; reality is that Morse code is made up of signals of varying

Re: [MBZ] Lost again?

2012-08-20 Thread ernest breakfield
well, how old *is* Gerry? the version of code we learned and use was standardized in the 1860s,...;-P understand that Western Union hung on to the old version into the 1920s and maybe a little later (since they were mostly only talking amongst themselves on the wires), but the point

Re: [MBZ] Lost again?

2012-08-20 Thread Gerry Archer
Gerry Archer wrote: The original Morse code was far more interesting to transmit and receive. There was no tone; only clicks. ernest breakfield wrote: original Morse code? clicks? sounds like a common misconception; reality is that Morse code is made up of signals of varying length

Re: [MBZ] I buy a gl but really want this

2012-08-20 Thread Hendrik Fay
http://www.mercedes-fans.de/inside/inside_artikel/geheim__plant_mercedes_einen_pick_up_/id=4287 Hendrik who would put a proper tray on that On 21/08/12 03:18, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Yes it is very quiet does not sound like a diesel like we are used to. Mine does not require the urea.

Re: [MBZ] Lost again?

2012-08-20 Thread ernest breakfield
yep; i've had both straight keys and bugs; have a modern version of the bug (an electronic paddle set) next to me here on the desk. http://www.bencher.com/ham/index.php?main_page=popup_imagepID=1 change your statement Spacing of the clicks told the listener what letter was being sent. to

Re: [MBZ] Lost again?

2012-08-20 Thread Fmiser
ernest breakfield wrote: well, how old *is* Gerry? the version of code we learned and use was standardized in the 1860s,...;-P Well, he was visiting a relative that worked for the railroad and I understand in some places they were still using american code into the 1970's. So while he

Re: [MBZ] Lost again?

2012-08-20 Thread Craig
On Mon, 20 Aug 2012 18:49:14 -0400 Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Sister had a bug. A telegraph key moved up and down; a bug moved side to side. IIRC if you moved the bug to the right there was one click, which was a dash. If you moved it to the left there were rapid fire

Re: [MBZ] occupying the deadly 3rd row.

2012-08-20 Thread Hendrik Fay
So you are saying that MB (and Volvo) engineered a death trap? Well I am pretty sure when MB decided to build the S123 and thought it would be handy to put a couple of extra seats in the back, that they envisaged the possibility that the car could be involved in a rear end collision. They may

Re: [MBZ] Lost again?

2012-08-20 Thread ernest breakfield
hi Phillip! i hadn't seen anything about the old code still in use into the 1970s; that makes it plausible. yeah, i hear what you mean about the 'click' not sounding like the CW we're familiar with, but i guess i heard 2 different tones, which i interpreted immediately as dots and

Re: [MBZ] I buy a gl but really want this

2012-08-20 Thread Rich Thomas
It needs 4WD and a longer bed. And it needs to be bigger. And at least a 4 lift and bigger tars. It looks too yurpeenish. --R On 8/20/2012 7:18 PM, Hendrik Fay wrote: http://www.mercedes-fans.de/inside/inside_artikel/geheim__plant_mercedes_einen_pick_up_/id=4287 Hendrik who would put a

Re: [MBZ] Lost again?

2012-08-20 Thread Gerry Archer
I was 14 in 1944 when this took place at the Chesapeake and Ohio main office in Richmond, Va. WW-2 was total war. Resources were strained everywhere and workers were scarce because most of the men up to 35 were in the army or working in defense plants. All the railroad telegraphers at the CO

[MBZ] Lock night

2012-08-20 Thread Curt Raymond
Got my 240D back from the Indy after having the tank strainer replaced. Its better but I can tell we'll be doing the fuel filter flip here pretty regularly for awhile. I'll get another extra set to have in the car. Drove it to work today and when I went to get coffee I realized that neither

Re: [MBZ] Lock night

2012-08-20 Thread Dan Penoff
Curt, Why not just swap it with the door handle from the passenger side? That takes all of five minutes and you get an almost new lock out of the deal... Dan On Aug 20, 2012, at 8:29 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: Got my 240D back from the Indy after having the tank strainer replaced. Its

Re: [MBZ] Lost again?

2012-08-20 Thread WILTON
I was only 10 in '44, but I clearly remember the all-out, totally committed effort; 'also remember our deep hatred for Hitler and Tojo (Jap premier). 3 of my brothers were in the thick of it from beginning. Speed limit was 35 mph. BTW, I still have my ration book for food stuff, shoes, etc.

Re: [MBZ] Lost again?

2012-08-20 Thread Rich Thomas
It's awesome that our seasoned citizens share those memories for us all, lest we forget the sacrifices made in past times. -R On 8/20/2012 7:47 PM, Gerry Archer wrote: I was 14 in 1944 when this took place at the Chesapeake and Ohio main office in Richmond, Va. WW-2 was total war. Resources

Re: [MBZ] Lost again?

2012-08-20 Thread ernest breakfield
very cool; thanks Gerry, for sharing that! cheers! e On 20/Aug/12 16:47, Gerry Archer wrote: I was 14 in 1944 when this took place at the Chesapeake and Ohio main office in Richmond, Va. WW-2 was total war. Resources were strained everywhere and workers were scarce because most of the men

Re: [MBZ] occupying the 3rd row.

2012-08-20 Thread Curt Raymond
How can you give Phillip a hard time for mentioning that diesel is inherently safer than gas and then bring up some random van? Besides which if your contention originally is that rear facing seats are somehow dangerous by design how does someone dying in a van with FRONT facing seats help

Re: [MBZ] occupying the 3rd row.

2012-08-20 Thread Dan Penoff
For that matter, a lot of people have died in vans, at least the stretched ones, due to their lack of stability at higher speeds. According to the NHTSA, 15-passenger vans are difficult to control in emergencies, are more prone to rollover accidents because they have a higher center of

Re: [MBZ] Lost again?

2012-08-20 Thread Gerry Archer
I remember the boots. Sister loaned me her '35 Chevy because she couldn't find tires for it. Got by with small boots and many flats until I managed to get a couple of full boots. Then we had to check the tires every day to be sure the tire fabric hadn't worn through and started wearing the

[MBZ] Mistakes again WAS: Lost again?

2012-08-20 Thread Dieselhead
It's awesome that our seasoned citizens share those memories for us all, lest we forget the sacrifices made in past times. -R yep! Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it. We are dangerously close to repeating some huge mistakes of 60 years ago, and 100 years ago. That

Re: [MBZ] passenger miles

2012-08-20 Thread Dieselhead
3rd seat in a MB wagon, especially Diesel, is safer than in any seat in a toada (and probably if you study the statistics, more people are killed in porches per passenger mile, than MB wagons).. Using passenger miles to try to prove something, and no one does any more, provides skewed

Re: [MBZ] Lock night

2012-08-20 Thread Curt Raymond
You apparently missed the bit where I wrote I realized that neither lock would work. If I need to pull both locks and fix both locks I figured starting with the driver's lock would get me a working lock the most quickly... I think the road salt we use here gets into the lock and helps to

Re: [MBZ] Lost again?

2012-08-20 Thread Curt Raymond
We are such wimps. Theres very little sacrifice anymore. BTW I received a 1942 Coleman 220BX today. An interesting lantern because of changes to the basic design required by war shortages of brass. The burners are ceramic, many of the other brass parts are steel. -Curt Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012

Re: [MBZ] Lock night

2012-08-20 Thread Dan Penoff
Sorry. I must have. That was one of my favorite swaps - the driver's door lock gets grungy, so just get the passenger side and swap them out... Dan On Aug 20, 2012, at 10:04 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: You apparently missed the bit where I wrote I realized that neither lock would work.

Re: [MBZ] occupying the 3rd row.

2012-08-20 Thread Dieselhead
How can you give Phillip a hard time for mentioning that diesel is inherently safer than gas and then bring up some random van? Besides which if your contention originally is that rear facing seats are somehow dangerous by design how does someone dying in a van with FRONT facing seats help

[MBZ] HP printer commercial

2012-08-20 Thread RELNGSON
SOUND UP http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=341rybZ42vAfeature=player_embedded ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] Lost again?

2012-08-20 Thread WILTON
And '43 pennies were zinc-coated steel. Butter was white margarine with a little accompanying capsule of food coloring that the buyer mixed into it to make it look like butter. Wilton - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Mistakes again WAS: Lost again?

2012-08-20 Thread WILTON
At only 7 to 11, about the only thing I did for the war effort during WWII was scrounge up scrap metal coupla times and take it to school for scrap drive. Wilton - Original Message - From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent:

Re: [MBZ] Lost again?

2012-08-20 Thread Fmiser
ernest breakfield wrote: yeah, i hear what you mean about the 'click' not sounding like the CW we're familiar with, but i guess i heard 2 different tones, which i interpreted immediately as dots and dashes, and from there it's just about the rhythm... Then you're better than me. The

Re: [MBZ] on topic 300td

2012-08-20 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
It's a 220SE 5.0 coupe! Sent from my iPhone On Aug 20, 2012, at 9:56 AM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Very clear directions - thanks! I'm flattered you think me capable of doing this job. Far from it, although my French pal down the block performs all the own heavy duty

Re: [MBZ] Rear seats

2012-08-20 Thread RELNGSON
...How can you give Phillip a hard time for mentioning that diesel is inherently safer than gas and then bring up some random van? Besides which if your contention originally is that rear facing seats are somehow dangerous by design how does someone dying in a van with FRONT facing seats

Re: [MBZ] Ages

2012-08-20 Thread RELNGSON
..The WWII generations, my parents and grandparents, aunts and uncles and millions like them, Gerry and Wilton did amazing things from 1941 to 1946.  Let us, and younger generations learn from the mistakes made in the early 1900s, and the 1930s and never repeat them... Weren't both of them in

Re: [MBZ] Mistakes again WAS: Lost again?

2012-08-20 Thread Dieselhead
At only 7 to 11, about the only thing I did for the war effort during WWII was scrounge up scrap metal coupla times and take it to school for scrap drive. Wilton Yes, and that was a significant contribution for a kid. The amount of scrap scrounged by kids during WWII is amazing. Just

Re: [MBZ] Ages

2012-08-20 Thread Dieselhead
..The WWII generations, my parents and grandparents, aunts and uncles and millions like them, Gerry and Wilton did amazing things from 1941 to 1946. Let us, and younger generations learn from the mistakes made in the early 1900s, and the 1930s and never repeat them... Weren't both of them

[MBZ] To ejamacat woger WAS:Ages

2012-08-20 Thread Dieselhead
..The WWII generations, my parents and grandparents, aunts and uncles and millions like them, Gerry and Wilton did amazing things from 1941 to 1946. Let us, and younger generations learn from the mistakes made in the early 1900s, and the 1930s and never repeat them... Weren't both of them