All the propane powered genny sets that I've read the specs on say they
require a liquid propane line, not the gas. That solves the evaporation
cooling problem, and delivers more BTU to the genny engine, though they are
still very thirsty, as propane has a fraction (I should know but don't
Propane tanks all use pressure regulators, regardless of the tank size, and
delivery pressure is regulated to, I believe something like 11 inches of
water column , or some arcane unit of measure.
Anyway try a look at this for more answers than I have.
Yep, connection point is about 4ft off the ground.
On 2/14/2021 9:44 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote:
You are probably correct. I would guess 100# tanks would work if you have a
hookup about four foot off the ground -- that's the usual height I think.
Usually in pairs if I remember
You are probably correct. I would guess 100# tanks would work if you have a
hookup about four foot off the ground -- that's the usual height I think.
Usually in pairs if I remember correctly, they used to be pretty common around
here for gas stoves when the house had oil or wood heat.
Those
I believe that version has a 6 ft long bed, instead of a full size truck 8
ft bed. I call it the "city boys truck".
Interior of cab has every known luxury, so that part is nicely equipped.
It's just challenged to haul a cord of wood, or a stack of 4x8 plywood.
On Sun, Feb 14, 2021 at 6:19 PM
I was digging thru pics on my cell phone to see if I still had a pic of
the label for those heaters out there. I can't remember what BTU they
are, I want to say they are 150k btu, but not sure. That would dictate
what size tank it needs I assume. I would only be running it for a few
hours on
Interesting, I should ask about that the next time I get one filled. I'd like
to get a couple for camp, it'd be nice to be able to go 2 weeks on a fill. I'd
still keep 20# tanks around since they can be exchanged its handy if somebody
says "What can I pay for?" you just send them to the
> A forklift tank would work too but I don't know where you'd get one filled.
I have three for Big Bertha. I get them filled the same places I get BBQ tanks
filled.
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Out here a lot of people have the 100# tanks for cooking/heating. You can get
them refilled with a truck.It'd be interesting to know what pressure those
heaters want though. A stove wants low pressure, some heaters want high
pressure. Makes a big difference in how you work your install.
-Curt
Its the torpedo heater though, those really slurp down the propane. I suspect
a generator of significant size would have the same problem.
A 100# would work better but of course would be decidedly not handy.
A forklift tank would work too but I don't know where you'd get one filled. All
the
More shop propane questions. I am not sure what the PO of Okie acres did, i see
no evidence of a big propane tank being installed on the property. There is a
gas line connection at the back of the shop and I suspect maybe they used those
100lb tanks and just took them down and filled them.
On 2021-02-14 14:10, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:
Probably gone by now, but if not it would be a good flip candidate. I
doubt Dan wants anything from the rust belt.
Tried contacting him, was reminded that he sold it when he bought a big
white Silverado.
Some years ago I had a spreadsheet that would compare various fuel sources. I
remember one year when oil was high and I didn't have good wood supply that
electric was the way to go. I also remember one year in the polar vortex where
I was really glad I'd laid in a good wood supply.
I buy my
Speaking of propane, in the 5 years we have been here, I have never used the 2
big overhead gas heaters in the shop. Would make work out there so much better.
I need to either lease or buy a propane tank and get it filled. Every time I
think about it, it’s winter. When is the best time of year
Curt Raymond writes:
> For cooking/heating use I don't think tank size is a problem until you
> get down to the BBQ (20#) tank size. I remember reading that at -20F a
> BBQ tank wouldn't produce enough vapor pressure to run a stove but I
> suppose that depends on what stove.
I have a propane
> Most definitely cut down on the heat pump useable but by the time you pay for
> firewood I don’t think it would be any cheaper.
If you have to buy firewood it's not cost-effective. I've never paid for any,
but there's certainly
a labor component involved.
-- Jim
> I would like to get a whole home backup generator and run it off propane, and
> also run a line out to the shop for the heaters there. Maybe even replace the
> stove/oven with propane instead of electric
Co-generation is nice. Use the waste heat from the genny to heat the shop.
When
Big
For cooking/heating use I don't think tank size is a problem until you get
down to the BBQ (20#) tank size. I remember reading that at -20F a BBQ tank
wouldn't produce enough vapor pressure to run a stove but I suppose that
depends on what stove.
Even in northern Maine a lot of folks use 100#
Scott Ritchey via Mercedes writes:
> The tank needs to absorb enough heat from the environment to "boil
> off" LP gas as you use it.
Is there some way to use the waste heat from the generator engine to
heat the LP tank? You probably wouldn't need to do it in the summer
though.
Allan
I have a thousand gallon propane tank in the back yard I use to fuel the
furnace in the pole barn. When my parents built the house in 1956 propane and
fuel oil were the two choices, no natural gas line.
When the local utility put in natural gas in the 80's Mom got tapped in and
converted the
This reminds me of a question about tanks.I've got 4x 100# tanks that have
been on the farm, well probably 50 years. Are they useful for refilling or
should I send them for recycling? We've never refilled them for the camp
because they're hard to handle and we only use 2x 20# cans in a normal
That could be a pretty good deal.I hate the chrome "lady bits massager" for a
shifter handle.
Is it just me or does the bed look really short? I can't tell if its the cover
but the proportions look weird.
-Curt
On Sunday, February 14, 2021, 7:07:40 PM EST, Allan Streib via Mercedes
Kaleb, You need to think through which circuits need to be on the backup
system and which don't (unless you get a really big generator). The typical
home has a 200 amp service entrance, which is almost 50KW. My house already
had an outdoor breaker panel as part of the meter and an indoor
I'm debating what to put in the farmhouse. I'd like to go propane but not sure
that the copper pipes I'm used to still meet code. My parents house has a
copper line but that was put in back in 1980...
What ever I do will almost certainly be a used stove (probably gas). I'm not
refurbishing an
I'm super pleased with my Battery Minder. The batteries in the Pisten Bully
were pretty much flat when I tried to start it back in December. I hauled them
home and gave each 24 hours on the Minder in maintenance (desulfate?) mode and
24 hours on the dumb charger at 6 amps. I don't remember
Geez, I wish we had 12". We've gotten maybe that much this year total and its
all been fluffy light stuff, hardly worth grooming.
We've been out twice this year though. I'm training a new guy which is fun for
me. I think the other groomer operators like having me do the training. They're
both
The terms LP and Propane are used interchangeably, But technically, propane is
a one particular gas molecule while LP usually contains several different gas
molecules. But they all burn just fine. Compared to natural gas, LP is liquid
(much denser) at relatively low pressures. Compressed
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107k miles. According to posted VIN, it has M272 engine 272972 30 946550
which indicates it has the improved balance shaft gear.
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Here dealers will say the doc fees are required by the state. That is a lie.
They are not required to charge doc fees at all. The law says if they charge
doc fees they have to charge it to everyone. If somebody throws a fit they can
deduct the amount off the sale price but it will still have to
Here's one that's older
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Curt Raymond via Mercedes writes:
> Rick,
> Find me a 5 year old 4wd extended cab pickup truck with no rust and under
> 80,000 miles for under $25,000 and I'll give
A guy I hunt with bought a 9mm last fall, can't get any ammo. We stopped at a
gun shop a week ago, they had gotten a shipment of 9mm, it was all sold in like
20 minutes.
They did have a box of .22 short I picked up for my dad. I also scored a box of
.300 Savage "just because". When I got home
I need to do the same, but there will be a bunch of re-wiring to be done.
Our system is a mess form historical add-ons and no requirement to follow
codes.
Is LP and propane the same thing?
On Sun, Feb 14, 2021 at 5:37 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
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> I would like
When we bought the RAM I nearly walked over the doc fees. 30 years ago when
there was a secretary typing it out I didn't like it but understood. Today they
enter the price and the computer spits out all the forms automatically. IIRC it
was $300 and I told the salesman that if the doc fee
As another example of how car prices out of whack our 2003 Ranger 4wd 4.0l
extended cab SLT with 25,000 miles, in 2008 cost just over $10k...
The pre-newest-style Rangers didn't have the option of crew cab in the USA.
Some (most?) of the extended cabs have suicide doors. One of the annoying
Rick,
Find me a 5 year old 4wd extended cab pickup truck with no rust and under
80,000 miles for under $25,000 and I'll give you a $500 finders fee.
Around here if it runs and drives the price is double what it was last year and
there aren't very many choices.
In 2014 when we were truck
I would like to get a whole home backup generator and run it off propane, and
also run a line out to the shop for the heaters there. Maybe even replace the
stove/oven with propane instead of electric
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> On Feb 14, 2021, at 5:11 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
>
My in-laws had a fridge/freezer they replaced last year that they claim was
from 1967! They certainly got their value out of that machine.
Apparently the replacement unit has reduced their electricity bill by $30 a
month.
-Curt
On Saturday, February 13, 2021, 3:43:26 PM EST, Dan Penoff
Power was out here from about 0700 to noon, probably caused by an ice storm. I
was unaware of that until I got to my kitchen and heard the generator running.
That (15KW Generac) LP-fired standby generator was nice to have then but there
are costs.
I think the equipment was about $3500 (in
Fried synapses due to massive illegal pharmaceuticals ingestion
--FT
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> On Feb 14, 2021, at 4:02 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
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We've had more snow than I can remember for here, about 12" accumulation.
There are lots of power outages just south of here, freezing rain has
taken down trees. I'm lucky power has not been interrupted here, I should
have an emergency supply of wood for the stove.
Greg in the PNW
> Blizzard is
I think at the time there were only 1 or 2 ties outside of Texas and that
wasn’t enough. That changed after that incident I believe. Texas has plenty of
gas to drive gas turbines but it takes time and maybe there wasn’t enough to
offset the loss of those wind resources.
--R
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Wind and Solar power require backup generation for whenever the sun don't shine
(most of the time) and the wind don't blow (varies). As far as infrastructure
is concerned that means "green" power generation doesn't replace other sources
but is IN ADDITION to traditional sources. Also, the
There are ties through the national grid, believe me. However, some of those
are little used, which is the problem. The utilities have a spot market for
demand, and it’s based on what time of the day and for how much. Middle of the
day in the summertime? Oh, yea, spot prices will be wild. But -
Yeah I’ve seen that one. Stupid ask. A repair is like $250 and 4 hours at most
in the driveway
--FT
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> On Feb 14, 2021, at 4:02 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> https://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/d/daytona-beach-2001-mercedes-benz-320/7272977472.html
>
>
Some years ago the wind in West Texas just died on New Years Day (I think it
was). It was really cold and power demand was high. All the wind machines (and
there were lots) stopped producing and that was a Big Problem as Texas was
pretty much stand-alone as far as ties into other power grids.
Yeah, the one they copied off the sales brochure from Mercedes?
-D
> On Feb 14, 2021, at 4:35 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> But you're paying for the artistic value of the last picture
>
>
> Rick
>
> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Sent: February 14, 2021 3:23 PM
> To:
But you're paying for the artistic value of the last picture
Rick
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As it sits is
Dan Penoff via Mercedes writes:
> As I look at potential trucks, I see a lot of nice ones on
> Carvana. One big advantage of them is the fact that there’s no “add
> ons” like a dealer does, the slimy “dealer fee”,
> “paperwork/transaction fees”. etc., etc.
Carvana and Carmax "no haggle"
It does make life far easier and less likely to be interrupted. Big up front
cost, though, if you do it right.
-D
> On Feb 14, 2021, at 4:24 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> Being that we are total electric here, I should get a backup generator one of
> these day.
>
> Sent
Being that we are total electric here, I should get a backup generator one of
these day.
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> On Feb 14, 2021, at 3:15 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> That reminds me, it’s about time to check the propane tank for my annual
> fill for the standby generator…
>
>
As it sits is about a $1000 car.
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> On Feb 14, 2021, at 3:02 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> https://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/d/daytona-beach-2001-mercedes-benz-320/7272977472.html
>
> Conductor plate and they want retail for it. Oy.
>
> -D
>
Texas is facing the possibility of blackouts as power demand ramps up
with the cold weather.
Apparently wind farms can't operate in icing conditions. Who knew?
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-02-14/deep-freeze-sends-gas-soaring-to-600-over-the-long-u-s-weekend
Forecast here is for
That reminds me, it’s about time to check the propane tank for my annual fill
for the standby generator…
-D shoveling sun and a little bit of rain today in the near 80s
> On Feb 14, 2021, at 4:12 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> Blizzard is proceeding, temp is 7 outside with
Bad conductor plate. Common failure, well known, parts are a couple hundred
bucks a few hours under the car to replace, if that.
-D
> On Feb 14, 2021, at 4:12 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
>
> What's triggers "limp mode"? Low on fluid?
>
> On Sun, Feb 14, 2021 at 4:02 PM Dan Penoff via
I would think that EVs would be hardest hit by microchip shortages, but
I guess the reality is that EVs still account for a small minority of
new car production, and also that all new cars are loaded with
microprocessors and integrated circuits.
Allan
OK Don via Mercedes writes:
> From the
What's triggers "limp mode"? Low on fluid?
On Sun, Feb 14, 2021 at 4:02 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
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>
> https://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/d/daytona-beach-2001-mercedes-benz-320/7272977472.html
>
> Conductor plate and they want retail for it. Oy.
>
> -D
>
Blizzard is proceeding, temp is 7 outside with wind chill is -10, snow blowing
outside. Heat pump pretty much runs non stop. Over the last 30 minutes the
power has been going out off and on. No good. I may end up having to haul in
some firewood and firing up the fireplace/insert. It would
Most
Both, with a sprinkling of delusion.
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Sure, why not? I’m always up for a road trip.
-D
> On Feb 14, 2021, at 2:16 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> My receptionist (68 year old geezer) sold his 1990ish S10 EL and bought a
> somewhat loaded looking dark green 4x4 Ranger a couple of years ago. I don't
> recall the
Slasher attack on the front seat. WTF.
On Sun, Feb 14, 2021 at 12:30 PM Max Dillon via Mercedes <
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> Rebuilt title. 2006 model, not 2003. Maybe a $3k car.
>
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
>
>
> Feb 14, 2021 11:48:52 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes >:
>
> > wtf
> >
>
Probably gone by now, but if not it would be a good flip candidate. I doubt Dan
wants anything from the rust belt.
Rick
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Dylan Thomas: "Rage against the dying of the light."
On Sun, Feb 14, 2021 at 11:49 AM G Mann via Mercedes
wrote:
> Wait .I think I finally broke the Geezer code you have to carry an
> AARP card, and be on the waitlist for space in an assisted living
> community.
>
> My answer to the
I will say MMR on most used vehicles these days is going above retail at
auction. I have heard stories from customers, one in particular, had a later
model Silverado sitting on the lot they could t sell at 26k for some reason.
Took it to auction and it sold for 33k. I told him he should take
My receptionist (68 year old geezer) sold his 1990ish S10 EL and bought
a somewhat loaded looking dark green 4x4 Ranger a couple of years ago. I
don't recall the details, I just saw it parked in front of a house with
a for sale sign on it, thought 'somebody should buy that, it looks
great',
From the news today:
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On Sun, Feb 14, 2021 at 11:56 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
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> I can wait, I’m
Too bad all the rental companies were dumping cars last summer, they'd
sell them easily today.
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Ahh, yes, a nice 1911 is always a good choice. I haven’t looked at the firearms
market of late, but I’ve heard it’s a crazy place, no doubt much like the car
market.
ML500 went to Haiti. Long story. Suffice to say I made money on the deal.
I can wait, I’m not under any pressure. I was just
Rebuilt title. 2006 model, not 2003. Maybe a $3k car.
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
Feb 14, 2021 11:48:52 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes :
> wtf
>
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> --
> --FT
>
>
>
This is from over a month ago. There will be electronics shortages too.
https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-bb12adb6106019a618440d85fd91f77e
Rick
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I understand about the government payments and car buying, but I wasn’t aware
of shortages. Sounds like I need to wait, which is just fine with me. I really
need to get this E420 W124 out of the garage and on to another home right now.
Once that’s done I’ll be more motivated to do something
>These things don’t seem to last long. I’m truly >amazed that if things are so
>bad for so many >people why there is such a big market for used >trucks
Sounds like "car fever". I get it. I have "Kimber fever" right now. After a
year of being told "no", the consumer market is bursting with
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The reason the prices are so high on used is because there is very little new
inventory available. I have stores that usually have a hundred trucks in stock
that have none at all, or maybe 5-6 if they are lucky. I don’t think FCA is so
bad but Ford and GM are. With GM they were shut down due to
Wait .I think I finally broke the Geezer code you have to carry an
AARP card, and be on the waitlist for space in an assisted living community.
My answer to the question "How old are you?" is always, "I'm only middle
age." The older I get, the more fun it is to give that answer...
On
wtf
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That’s the whole deal with Carvana and Carmax, no pressure and upfront pricing.
As far as add ons, not sure about Carvana but I bought a GL at Carmax several
years ago and they still charged doc fees just like any dealer. They also
offered aftermarket warranties for add on costs as well.
I
It appears that the delivery thing is extra, although there’s no charge for it.
There is one of their places close to me, so I guess I could go look at
something if they had it.
I’ve been looking at Ford Rangers and everything they’ve had is “pending”.
Seems like the local dealers don’t have
This girl I know looked at a coupla cars, they brought them to her place
on a flatbed and could do the deal right there, give a trade-in credit
(essentially buy your old car for a specified price) and haul off the
old car. Sort of a mobile Carmax. She ended up not buying either one,
whoever
As I look at potential trucks, I see a lot of nice ones on Carvana. One big
advantage of them is the fact that there’s no “add ons” like a dealer does, the
slimy “dealer fee”, “paperwork/transaction fees”. etc., etc.
Kaleb - you’re familiar with these places - do you have any thoughts about
We went to Peru a few years back on a trek in the back country and I tried to
explain the concept of “geezer” to our guide. His English was pretty good but
he had never heard that word. I think the idea came up when we were discussing
the geezers who rode the bus to Machu Picchu instead of
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