Re: [MBZ] 124 tachometers

2016-01-12 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
com> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: Curly McLain <126die...@gmail.com> Sent: Thursday, January 7, 2016 5:37 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 tachometers I pulled the plug from the EDS computer. I found the tach signal voltage in the plug to the computer, but I

Re: [MBZ] 124 tachometers

2016-01-08 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
com> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: Curly McLain <126die...@gmail.com> Sent: Thursday, January 7, 2016 5:37 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 tachometers I pulled the plug from the EDS computer.  I found the tach signal voltage in the plug to the computer, but I

Re: [MBZ] 124 tachometers

2016-01-07 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
oun...@okiebenz.com> on behalf of Curly McLain via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Sent: 07 January 2016 20:39 To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Curly McLain Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 tachometers Got back to checking tach and speedo taday. Pulled the head, cable no turney, so looks like I need

Re: [MBZ] 124 tachometers

2016-01-07 Thread Fred Moir via Mercedes
Lain Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 tachometers Got back to checking tach and speedo taday. Pulled the head, cable no turney, so looks like I need a new cable. Tach has no signal at the head, but did have a signal behind the battery. so, it appears like either there is no signal coming out of the

Re: [MBZ] 124 tachometers

2016-01-07 Thread Fred Moir via Mercedes
. From: Mercedes <mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com> on behalf of Curly McLain via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Sent: 07 January 2016 22:37 To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Curly McLain Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 tachometers I pulled the plug

Re: [MBZ] 124 tachometers

2016-01-07 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
Curly. The ring gear pickup L3 sits between pin 20- ws and pin 3- br/ge of N39 the EDS control unit. The output from pin 25 gn/sw goes to the test skt X29/4 then to N6 (Klima) pin 2 gn/sw and via X26 gn/ge to the instrument cluster A1 P7 marked TD (no pin number indicated). Confused yet.

Re: [MBZ] 124 tachometers

2016-01-07 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
from underneath. Fred From: Mercedes <mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com> on behalf of Curly McLain via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Sent: 02 December 2015 13:52 To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Curly McLain Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 tachom

Re: [MBZ] 124 tachometers

2016-01-07 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
es <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Sent: 02 December 2015 13:52 To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Curly McLain Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 tachometers Check the connection for the Hall effect pickup at the rear of the engine. It often gets corroded, being exposed to road splash, and gives an interm

Re: [MBZ] 124 tachometers

2015-12-04 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
iebenz.com> Sent: 02 December 2015 13:52 To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Curly McLain Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 tachometers Check the connection for the Hall effect pickup at the rear of the engine. It often gets corroded, being exposed to road splash, and gives an intermittent or very

Re: [MBZ] 124 tachometers

2015-12-02 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
Hmm I've never heard of the tach itself dying, but after 29yrs, anything is possible. Congrats! You got the odd one! Twice, for me. Fixed them both. Bad electrolytic capacitor in the last one. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list

Re: [MBZ] 124 tachometers

2015-12-02 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
The tach signal goes into the EDS computer (main engine computer) and gets split out from there to the cluster and the KLIMA and maybe other consumers. I think there is some amplification in the EDS computer, I don't know if there is any other processing. Do you have a wiring diagram? I bought

Re: [MBZ] 124 tachometers

2015-12-02 Thread Fred Moir via Mercedes
st Cc: Curly McLain Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 tachometers >Check the connection for the Hall effect pickup at the rear of the >engine. It often gets corroded, being exposed to road splash, and >gives an intermittent or very low signal. Mine works (as does the >idle speed control) only w

Re: [MBZ] 124 tachometers

2015-12-02 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
; >> Sent: 02 December 2015 13:52 >> To: Mercedes Discussion List >> Cc: Curly McLain >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 tachometers >> >> Check the connection for the Hall effect pickup at the rear of the >>> engine. It often gets corroded, being exposed to roa

Re: [MBZ] 124 tachometers

2015-12-02 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
from underneath. Fred From: Mercedes <mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com> on behalf of Curly McLain via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Sent: 02 December 2015 13:52 To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Curly McLain Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 tachome

Re: [MBZ] 124 tachometers

2015-12-02 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
KLIMA relay is a consumer of the tachometer signal, not a processor. OVP relay protects the main computer, which _I think_ processes the tachometer signal? I had a dead tachometer in The White Whale, I pulled the cluster and measured the signal using the A.C. function of my digital multimeter

Re: [MBZ] 124 tachometers

2015-12-02 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
KLIMA relay is a consumer of the tachometer signal, not a processor. OVP relay protects the main computer, which _I think_ processes the tachometer signal? I had a dead tachometer in The White Whale, I pulled the cluster and measured the signal using the A.C. function of my digital multimeter

Re: [MBZ] 124 tachometers

2015-12-02 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
Check the connection for the Hall effect pickup at the rear of the engine. It often gets corroded, being exposed to road splash, and gives an intermittent or very low signal. Mine works (as does the idle speed control) only when it's wet, never have gotten around to fixing it. Might be a

[MBZ] 124 tachometers

2015-12-01 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
I seem to have 2 124 Diesels ( 87 300D) with non working tachometers. I have a couple of spare Klimas, so I can try swapping them and the OVP relay to start. I did that on one of them before with no change. Also tried direct ground on the cluster with no effect. OVP relays, I have to swap

Re: [MBZ] 124 tachometers

2015-12-01 Thread Fred Moir via Mercedes
oun...@okiebenz.com> on behalf of Curly McLain via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Sent: 02 December 2015 04:26 To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Curly McLain Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 tachometers >Curly. >My '87 TD had an intermittent Tach which then died. >It turned out to be th

Re: [MBZ] 124 tachometers

2015-12-01 Thread Fred Moir via Mercedes
. Fred From: Mercedes <mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com> on behalf of Curly McLain via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Sent: 02 December 2015 02:25 To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Curly McLain Subject: [MBZ] 124 tachometers I seem to have 2 124 Diese

Re: [MBZ] 124 tachometers

2015-12-01 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
Check the connection for the Hall effect pickup at the rear of the engine. It often gets corroded, being exposed to road splash, and gives an intermittent or very low signal. Mine works (as does the idle speed control) only when it's wet, never have gotten around to fixing it. Might be

Re: [MBZ] 124 tachometers

2015-12-01 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
Curly. My '87 TD had an intermittent Tach which then died. It turned out to be the small ground wire(s), under the large main ground wire bolted to the shock mount, were broken off. On my TD the shock mount was coming adrift at the seams, thus fatigued the wires that eventually failed. YMMV.