Re: [MBZ] 4Matic AWD Leather Sunroof!

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[MBZ] 4Matic AWD Leather Sunroof!

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[MBZ] 4matic leather interior. Extremely powerful. 2004 e320 Mercedes Benz - $3, 000 (Charleston)

Warp drive has engaged and is bending light https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/charleston-2004-e320-mercedes-benz/7492194305.html -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change del

Re: [MBZ] 4Matic - Is It Worth It?

Any opinion on Pirelli Scorpion Winter? Local indy tire shop carries this line. They are good guys so I'd prefer to spend my money there vs. online or chain store if it's not a bad choice. Allan Curt Raymond via Mercedes writes: > I've had very good luck with just the cheapest tire store snow

Re: [MBZ] 4Matic - Is It Worth It?

Tires Plus, a national tire retailer, has a shop nearby that use on occasion. They actually have a spreader bar for doing Mercedes alignments, to give you an idea of their skill set. I also take advantage of their in house credit card, as they’ll often give you 6 or 12 months same as cash. Bette

Re: [MBZ] 4Matic - Is It Worth It?

I've had very good luck with just the cheapest tire store snow tires. My 240Ds were the finest snow cars I've ever had when properly equipped. I suspect a 617 turbo car would be a little less drivable due to the extra power but should still do well. "All Season" tires can be okay, my 2015 Jetta

Re: [MBZ] 4Matic - Is It Worth It?

I have been driving the $675ML500 (well, $700 now that I spent $25 on a new ignition switch) a bit the last few days and I concur.  It is bouncy and twitchy on bumpy roads (like my driveway), very stiff suspension, tall, short wheelbase.  On smooth roads it is not bad but as soon as it hits a b

Re: [MBZ] 4Matic - Is It Worth It?

I would agree with your observations on the W163. Definitely more of a truck than a car. -D > On Oct 13, 2020, at 9:11 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes > wrote: > > > Interesting...have they been trying to sell it since Thanksgiving, or did > they sell it, buy it back and list it at a higher pr

Re: [MBZ] 4Matic - Is It Worth It?

>The used car market is a real b*tch right now. Slim pickings everywhere. Wait until after Thanksgiving. Between Thanksgiving and tax return season there should be some deals to be found. Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.o

Re: [MBZ] 4Matic - Is It Worth It?

Please do. I am looking for a 4-matic for SWMBO. Rick From: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: October 12, 2020 9:16 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com; d...@penoff.com Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: dwight.gi...@gmail.com; okiet...@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 4Matic - Is It Worth It? Let me say

Re: [MBZ] 4Matic - Is It Worth It?

Let me say this very clearly- 4matic is worth it. I can say more if any one wants. Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Mon, Oct 12, 2020, 10:11 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Curley McLain via Mercedes writes: > > > Bull crap: "My RWD diesels (W116 and W123) are use

Re: [MBZ] 4Matic - Is It Worth It?

Curley McLain via Mercedes writes: > Bull crap:  "My RWD diesels (W116 and W123) are useless in the snow." > They were only incompetent in schnee because they had bad tires on. The > 123 or 126 does not choose the tires it is on. > > As Jim says, tires and weight in the right places are key, as

Re: [MBZ] 4Matic - Is It Worth It?

> I've tried sandbags in the trunk. It helps, but only a little. I think > the tires have been my downfall. In all probability. I swear by Hakkapeliittaa studded snow tires, the difference is truly amazing and they last forever. (I get 7-10 years out of a set.) -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] 4Matic - Is It Worth It?

Bull crap:  "My RWD diesels (W116 and W123) are useless in the snow." They were only incompetent in schnee because they had bad tires on. The 123 or 126 does not choose the tires it is on. As Jim says, tires and weight in the right places are key, as with any vehicle. My 123 went everywhere

Re: [MBZ] 4Matic - Is It Worth It?

I drove the 107, 115, 123, and 126 in the occasional ice and snow in OK, with plenty of hills. Absolutely the worst place was our street and driveway. I always managed, but it was close sometimes, and a few times I had to leave one in the street because I couldn't get it up the drive. Then I got th

Re: [MBZ] 4Matic - Is It Worth It?

Jim Cathey writes: >> My RWD diesels (W116 and W123) are useless in the snow. > > My W115 was great in the snow. Proper snow tires, and maybe > a little bit of trunk weight, are the keys. For the hills, you also need > some brass balls sometimes. Momentum going up the hills is a > requirement.

Re: [MBZ] 4Matic - Is It Worth It?

> My RWD diesels (W116 and W123) are useless in the snow. My W115 was great in the snow. Proper snow tires, and maybe a little bit of trunk weight, are the keys. For the hills, you also need some brass balls sometimes. Momentum going up the hills is a requirement. -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] 4Matic - Is It Worth It?

Good points, Allen, however, I know where you live and fortunately I won’t have the challenges you do as far as hills. Based on your experiences it sounds like 4Matic would be beneficial anyway. Thanks! -D > On Oct 12, 2020, at 5:22 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes > wrote: > > If you're talki

Re: [MBZ] 4Matic - Is It Worth It?

If you're talking about Indiana specifically, I can relate my experiences. My RWD diesels (W116 and W123) are useless in the snow. Especially with the diesel torque they spin out very easily. Out in the county there are some hills that have created predicaments for me more than once. Same thing h

Re: [MBZ] 4Matic - Is It Worth It?

04 would still be m112 but 3.7L. Still just as reliable. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 12, 2020, at 4:04 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > Probably not that often, but if I’m going to find a car for there, I would > prefer it to be equipped for the climate in case we’re up there in th

Re: [MBZ] 4Matic - Is It Worth It?

Thanks, Mitch! Didn’t know that, just made the assumption since it’s badged as an ML350. I may check it out. -D > On Oct 12, 2020, at 5:13 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes > wrote: > > On 2020-10-12 16:03, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: >> Probably not that often, but if I’m going to find a car

Re: [MBZ] 4Matic - Is It Worth It?

On 2020-10-12 16:03, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Probably not that often, but if I’m going to find a car for there, I would prefer it to be equipped for the climate in case we’re up there in the winter. I’ve been looking at MLs around here, too. Almost nothing. There’s a 2004 ML350 I could ge

Re: [MBZ] 4Matic - Is It Worth It?

I love my 2005 E320 4matic. I have owned many 4WD & AWD over the years & this is the best. I really don't meed it here but it also handles well in the rain. Only problem i have had was bearing problem in transfer case. Dealer fixed it for 300.00. Has 184 k miles. Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On

Re: [MBZ] 4Matic - Is It Worth It?

Probably not that often, but if I’m going to find a car for there, I would prefer it to be equipped for the climate in case we’re up there in the winter. I’ve been looking at MLs around here, too. Almost nothing. There’s a 2004 ML350 I could get for a good price, but it’s got 140k on it, meaning

Re: [MBZ] 4Matic - Is It Worth It?

How often will you be using it in the ice and snow? Maybe you should look at an ML? Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 12, 2020, at 3:54 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > I’m curious to know from those who have experienced it - do you think the > 4Matic is worthwhile in inclement weather o

[MBZ] 4Matic - Is It Worth It?

I’m curious to know from those who have experienced it - do you think the 4Matic is worthwhile in inclement weather or northern climates with snow? I ask because I was considering this as a requirement for my northern car, but it’s narrowed the choices so much that I’m wondering if I’m overempha

Re: [MBZ] 4Matic E320 wagon with a bit of rust, fairly cheap

Yes yours is nice. Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Wed, Jun 19, 2019, 10:37 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > There are a lot of pretty nice W210s down this way. If they’ve been kept > away from road salt they age pretty well and are a darned good value for a > gas and

Re: [MBZ] 4Matic E320 wagon with a bit of rust, fairly cheap

"No Mercedes. Need reliability. And affordability. but thanks!" Ugh.  Women. --FT On 6/19/19 10:36 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: There are a lot of pretty nice W210s down this way. If they’ve been kept away from road salt they age pretty well and are a darned good value for a gas and g

Re: [MBZ] 4Matic E320 wagon with a bit of rust, fairly cheap

z.com Sent: June 19, 2019 9:00 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: d...@penoff.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 4Matic E320 wagon with a bit of rust, fairly cheap That’s just what you can see. When a W210 rusts, it rusts from the inside out. -D > On Jun 19, 2019, at 9:40 A

Re: [MBZ] 4Matic E320 wagon with a bit of rust, fairly cheap

Yeah that was my friend but she thinks Benzes are too expensive to work on and maintain.  I tried to explain shop rates were about the same everywhere, parts weren't too expensive, and besides I would help maintain it. She lost her job last week, but will probably get another offer this week,

Re: [MBZ] 4Matic E320 wagon with a bit of rust, fairly cheap

There are a lot of pretty nice W210s down this way. If they’ve been kept away from road salt they age pretty well and are a darned good value for a gas and go vehicle. I paid $4k two years ago for the 2002 sedan with 90k on the clock that my youngest son now owns, and it has been trouble free.

Re: [MBZ] 4Matic E320 wagon with a bit of rust, fairly cheap

Who was it that wanted to spend less than $6500 to replace her rolling dog kennel? > https://lexington.craigslist.org/cto/d/lexington-2000-mercedes-e320-wagon/6913077242.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

Re: [MBZ] 4Matic E320 wagon with a bit of rust, fairly cheap

Up here in salty road land we run away from w210's. Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Wed, Jun 19, 2019, 10:00 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > That’s just what you can see. When a W210 rusts, it rusts from the inside > out. > > -D > > > > On Jun 19, 2019, at 9:40 AM,

Re: [MBZ] 4Matic E320 wagon with a bit of rust, fairly cheap

You’re on the fringes of Appalachia there, so be prepared for a lot of meth head offerings. Wife’s family is from around Liberty, an hour or so south of there, and the meth is strong in those parts. Very strong. -D > On Jun 19, 2019, at 10:14 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes > wrote: > > Yeah

Re: [MBZ] 4Matic E320 wagon with a bit of rust, fairly cheap

Yeah that's what I was wondering.  Suspension bits and mounts etc. probably all shot. I am probably going to visit a cousin who lives in Frankfort in a month or so, was looking at the Lexington list to see what things looked like there in Benzland.  Noticed a few rusty 210s, I think they use r

Re: [MBZ] 4Matic E320 wagon with a bit of rust, fairly cheap

That’s just what you can see. When a W210 rusts, it rusts from the inside out. -D > On Jun 19, 2019, at 9:40 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes > wrote: > > Looks decent aside from the rust > > https://lexington.craigslist.org/cto/d/lexington-2000-mercedes-e320-wagon/6913077242.html > > -- >

[MBZ] 4Matic E320 wagon with a bit of rust, fairly cheap

Looks decent aside from the rust https://lexington.craigslist.org/cto/d/lexington-2000-mercedes-e320-wagon/6913077242.html -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery option

Re: [MBZ] 4matic wagon for Greg

Not bad! I wonder if the warranty (if any) covers the 4 matic. On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 11:14 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Not black! > https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails. > xhtml?listingId=462297916 > > __

[MBZ] 4matic wagon for Greg

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Re: [MBZ] 4MATIC-LESS MUSCLE... MORE MISSILE! - $64444

It's got a Karmon Hradon stereo - awesome. On Fri, Nov 25, 2016 at 11:39 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > The crackheads are out today > > https://charleston.craigslist.org/ctd/5882325143.html > > > -- > --FT > Winston Churchill: > “Never give in--never, never, nev

[MBZ] 4MATIC-LESS MUSCLE... MORE MISSILE! - $64444

The crackheads are out today https://charleston.craigslist.org/ctd/5882325143.html -- --FT Winston Churchill: “Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, large or petty, never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense. Never yield to force; never yield to

Re: [MBZ] 4Matic tire purchase

On Feb 8, 2013, at 11:48 PM, "Benz Hogs" wrote: > Wells Fargo, "lost" paperwork (along with no communication) for 2 weeks, then > told us 5 days before closing that our paperwork was incomplete. That is another reason why I hate big banks and why I lobbied my Senators and Congressman to vote

Re: [MBZ] 4Matic tire purchase

Does my signature answer any of this? :) ML purchase was made in June. We were shopping for a house, made an acceptable offer, set closing date, loan company, Wells Fargo, "lost" paperwork (along with no communication) for 2 weeks, then told us 5 days before closing that our paperwork was inc

Re: [MBZ] 4Matic tire purchase

On Feb 8, 2013, at 11:25 PM, "OK Don" wrote: > Anyway - bite the bullet and replace all four. Your bride is worth it. He told you. Ouch. Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archi

Re: [MBZ] 4Matic tire purchase

When did you get an ML? Which one? The tire rack advice sounds good - but I do wish they'd addressed all wheel drive vehicles with traction control - might make a difference, might not. Anyway - bite the bullet and replace all four. Your bride is worth it. On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 10:30 PM, Benz Hog

Re: [MBZ] 4Matic tire purchase

On Feb 8, 2013, at 10:30 PM, "Benz Hogs" wrote: > Any thoughts on having new tires on the rear vs. front? Tire Rack says rear. http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/techpage.jsp?techid=52&bPostID=post-id-358d9073-5924-4d8d-8227-0309a0611e95¤tpage=10 Rick Sent from my iPhone ___

[MBZ] 4Matic tire purchase

So our ML has picked up a new nail in the left rear tire, this being the 3rd, 1st back in October, and two in the last 3 weeks. Guess I'm gonna be replacing two tires so I have some matching. All tires are at 8/32, so I should have another year before needing to replace the last two. Any thou

Re: [MBZ] 4matic is not that impressive but time is

> Hendrik & Fay wrote: > I am guessing this would be good if I used an MS OS but I am > using a Linux one. Then check your time zone setting. Most likely, it is using NTP to make your local computer match up to an internet time server. This _should_ keep your local computer's clock always quite

Re: [MBZ] 4matic is not that impressive but time is

Hendrik, look into ntpdate, and the setup procedures for it. It'll keep you synced to the atomic clock, and all will be well. Walt On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 8:55 AM, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hey! That is pretty good.  Hendrik replied twice to his email BEFORE he sent > it! > > Yes

Re: [MBZ] 4matic is not that impressive but time is

Hey! That is pretty good. Hendrik replied twice to his email BEFORE he sent it! Yes, that is winders, but if you poke the penguin, he may lead you to a timeserver synch app/utility. I am guessing this would be good if I used an MS OS but I am using a Linux one. Hendrik who has been cuddling

Re: [MBZ] 4matic is not that impressive

When I worked with an Aussie based in Brisbane I used to like to ask him how the day was going to be, since he had already experienced it. "Going to be a good day today, Robin?" Dan who really enjoyed visiting Down Under despite the lengthy plane ride Sent from my iPhone On Jan 24, 2012, at 7

Re: [MBZ] 4matic is not that impressive but time is

I am guessing this would be good if I used an MS OS but I am using a Linux one. Hendrik who has been cuddling a penguin for a while Dieselhead wrote: Probably just one of those evil northern hemisphere clocks. If you stand the computer on its head, maybe the machine will think it is the nort

Re: [MBZ] 4matic is not that impressive

I will understand tis when I am sober which will be yesterday in the morining. Hendrik who should not drink and type Dieselhead wrote: That is easy. It gets here way before it is sent. When we get one from Henny in the evening, he sent it tomorrow morning, except it is still this evening

Re: [MBZ] 4matic is not that impressive but time is

Probably just one of those evil northern hemisphere clocks. If you stand the computer on its head, maybe the machine will think it is the northern hemisphere and give you the right time. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314054 follow the instructions to the bottom. Probably something to do wi

Re: [MBZ] 4matic is not that impressive

Rich Thomas wrote: >It is a conspiracy among the Time Lords > >--R > > Right! The rest of you (or at least those who respond to Aussie email before it is sent) must be wearing your AFDB. I'll put mine on now. I do see a problem though, won't the Time Lords notice that I'm now responding to t

Re: [MBZ] 4matic is not that impressive

That is easy. It gets here way before it is sent. When we get one from Henny in the evening, he sent it tomorrow morning, except it is still this evening when it gets here. (remember..electrons travel at the speed of light, less various rest stops at servers along the way) So, it

Re: [MBZ] 4matic is not that impressive

It is a conspiracy among the Time Lords --R On 1/23/12 6:46 PM, Max wrote: Hendrik& Fay wrote: Not even after you chewed down half a dozen little blue pills? Hendrik who has no need for blue pills...yet If Australia is ahead of the U.S. time-zone-wise, how is my email so screwed up

Re: [MBZ] 4matic

Randy Bennell wrote: I am surprised that it is only a couple hundred pounds. I would gues it is quite a bit more than that on a 4X4 truck. W210 4matic is very simple mechanically. You get a center differential and a front differential (probably less than 50lb each) a front prop shaft, and two

Re: [MBZ] 4matic is not that impressive but time is

Yeah, the time on this email 10.55pm, so I guess the email uses the computer time to let people know when it was sent. Hendrik who is not sure why the computer resets the time, perhaps something to do with having another hard drive in the box Hendrik & Fay wrote: Probably something to do with

Re: [MBZ] 4matic is not that impressive but time is

Probably something to do with my computer, the clock keeps changing time on me, at the moment it is telling me that it is 10.48pm, while the real time is 12.28pm. Hendrik who needs to have a serious clean out and install the latest OS Max wrote: Hendrik & Fay wrote: Not even after you c

Re: [MBZ] 4matic is not that impressive

Hendrik & Fay wrote: >Not even after you chewed down half a dozen little blue pills? > >Hendrik >who has no need for blue pills...yet > > If Australia is ahead of the U.S. time-zone-wise, how is my email so screwed up his email arrives after everyone else has already responded? -- Max Dil

Re: [MBZ] 4matic

'Been/lived there. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Randy Bennell" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, January 23, 2012 6:37 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 4matic On 20/01/2012 11:47 PM, Fmiser wrote: WILTON wrote: somebody remind me why I might wa

Re: [MBZ] 4matic

On 20/01/2012 11:47 PM, Fmiser wrote: WILTON wrote: somebody remind me why I might want/need a 4matic. Status!!! You aren't really a man unless you own a 4-matic! -- Philip ___ Come on up north and you will quickly realize that 4 wheel drive is not real

Re: [MBZ] 4matic

I am surprised that it is only a couple hundred pounds. I would gues it is quite a bit more than that on a 4X4 truck. Randy So, that's ~200 lbs. that you hafta haul around ALL of the time and likely never need it, plus all that extra stuff to go wrong. Wilton

Re: [MBZ] 4matic is not that impressive

'Never had one; 'don't think I've ever seen one. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Hendrik & Fay" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, January 23, 2012 7:35 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 4matic is not that impressive Not even after yo

Re: [MBZ] 4matic is not that impressive

Funny that -- your wife was just saying --R On 1/23/12 7:35 AM, Hendrik & Fay wrote: Hendrik who has no need for blue pills...yet ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.

Re: [MBZ] 4matic is not that impressive

Not even after you chewed down half a dozen little blue pills? Hendrik who has no need for blue pills...yet WILTON wrote: Well, I guess I'll hafta just keep being "inadequate." BTW, 'don't know anybody I hafta impress; SWMBO is not even impressionable, any more.;<)) Wilton __

Re: [MBZ] 4matic

The W124 is a bit lighter than the Century, same size. That's the one I got T-boned in. Peter On Jan 21, 2012, at 10:53 AM, Mitch Haley wrote: Peter Frederick wrote: And, they are NOT heavier -- Benz uses higher strength steel, starting in the W126. My 220D was the exact dimensions and wei

Re: [MBZ] 4matic

Peter Frederick wrote: And, they are NOT heavier -- Benz uses higher strength steel, starting in the W126. My 220D was the exact dimensions and weight of my sister in law's 1985 Buick Century, but far better at crash protection and had much more room inside. You're referring to the W124 1987

Re: [MBZ] 4matic

And, they are NOT heavier -- Benz uses higher strength steel, starting in the W126. My 220D was the exact dimensions and weight of my sister in law's 1985 Buick Century, but far better at crash protection and had much more room inside. Part of what you pay for, I think. Peter On Jan 21,

Re: [MBZ] 4matic

Allan Streib wrote: MBs are already hauling around hundreds of extra pounds of steel in the form of heavier panels and other structural steel compared to something like a Toyota or Kia. And you'll likely never "need" it unless you're in a wreck. 4matic can help keep you out of accidents, so yo

Re: [MBZ] 4matic

But man, oh man, you want that extra steel when some bozo runs a traffic light and you can't get away! BTDT Peter On Jan 21, 2012, at 10:39 AM, Allan Streib wrote: "WILTON" writes: So, that's ~200 lbs. that you hafta haul around ALL of the time and likely never need it, plus all that ext

Re: [MBZ] 4matic

"WILTON" writes: > So, that's ~200 lbs. that you hafta haul around ALL of the time and > likely never need it, plus all that extra stuff to go wrong. MBs are already hauling around hundreds of extra pounds of steel in the form of heavier panels and other structural steel compared to something li

Re: [MBZ] 4matic

Saturday, January 21, 2012 12:47 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 4matic WILTON wrote: somebody remind me why I might want/need a 4matic. Status!!! You aren't really a man unless you own a 4-matic! -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used part

Re: [MBZ] 4matic

> WILTON wrote: > somebody remind me why I might want/need a 4matic. Status!!! You aren't really a man unless you own a 4-matic! -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz

Re: [MBZ] 4matic

So, that's ~200 lbs. that you hafta haul around ALL of the time and likely never need it, plus all that extra stuff to go wrong. Wilton Yeah, but you could be the only guy on your block with 4WD! THen you could put lights under the doors, and goofy tars and wheels on it. Oh, and you could

Re: [MBZ] 4matic

So, that's ~200 lbs. that you hafta haul around ALL of the time and likely never need it, plus all that extra stuff to go wrong. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Mitch Haley" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 10:42 PM

Re: [MBZ] 4matic

WILTON wrote: How much does all that "extra" 'chinery weigh? Looks like about 198lb. http://www.vehix.com/car-reviews/1998/mercedes-benz/e-class/e320-wagon/vehicle-specifications http://www.vehix.com/car-reviews/1998/mercedes-benz/e-class/e320-4matic-wagon/vehicle-specifications _

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it will be in the mid 70s here tomorrow... --R On 1/20/12 8:29 PM, WILTON wrote: Not likely - I've never seen one - well, maybe, in a museum. Wilton - Original Message - From: "OK Don" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 7:21 PM

Re: [MBZ] 4matic

Not likely - I've never seen one - well, maybe, in a museum. Wilton - Original Message - From: "OK Don" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 7:21 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 4matic Off-roading to your favorite still On Fri, Jan 20

Re: [MBZ] 4matic

Off-roading to your favorite still On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 3:58 PM, WILTON wrote: > BTW, I haven't driven on muddy dirt roads in well over 55 years, 'left NE > 51 years ago, 'left the MI UP 36 years ago, 'left Greenland and the San > Gabriel Mountains in So. CA 33 years ago, and rarely get

Re: [MBZ] 4matic

How much does all that "extra" 'chinery weigh? Wilton - Original Message - From: "Mitch Haley" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 6:21 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 4matic Alex Chamberlain wrote: So that when you truly

Re: [MBZ] 4matic

'Been able to accelerate and go plenty fast (sometimes too fast) for nearly 64 years driving two-wheel drive vehicles. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Randy Bennell" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 5:21 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ

Re: [MBZ] 4matic

Alex Chamberlain wrote: So that when you truly stomp on it, all 4 tires will smoke! Remember to turn off the traction control first. I wonder if you can in fact do so without disabling the AWD as well, since they both use selective braking of individual wheels to work their magic. Good poin

Re: [MBZ] 4matic

On Jan 20, 2012 2:22 PM, "Randy Bennell" wrote: > > On 20/01/2012 3:58 PM, WILTON wrote: >> >> remind me why I might want/need a 4matic. >> >> > So that when you truly stomp on it, all 4 tires will smoke! > Remember to turn off the traction control first. > I wonder if you can in fact do so with

Re: [MBZ] 4matic

On Jan 20, 2012, at 4:12 PM, "Mitch Haley" wrote: > But if there's a really nice 2000-2002 out there (without Command) I might > buy a W210 4matic. What is COMMAND? Electronic controls of some sort? Rick Sent from my distant extension of A.G. Bell's invention _

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On 20/01/2012 3:58 PM, WILTON wrote: BTW, I haven't driven on muddy dirt roads in well over 55 years, 'left NE 51 years ago, 'left the MI UP 36 years ago, 'left Greenland and the San Gabriel Mountains in So. CA 33 years ago, and rarely get enough snow here to cause any driving problem - somebod

Re: [MBZ] 4matic

WILTON wrote: BTW, I haven't driven on muddy dirt roads in well over 55 years, 'left NE 51 years ago, 'left the MI UP 36 years ago, 'left Greenland and the San Gabriel Mountains in So. CA 33 years ago, and rarely get enough snow here to cause any driving problem - somebody remind me why I might

Re: [MBZ] 4matic

I might want/need a 4matic. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Mitch Haley" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 2:50 PM Subject: [MBZ] 4matic http://detroit.craigslist.org/wyn/cto/2808881973.html ___

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Re: [MBZ] 4Matic

Those brown trucks are crushed when they reach end of life. The guy who ran the company was kinda weird, and had weird ideas about the "cars" as they are to be called. Back in the 80s I think they had purpose-designed diesels that they had built just for their "cars" that would be shut off, e

Re: [MBZ] 4Matic

I'm sorry, wasn't clear. I'm talking about light vans, NOT package van, or Sprinters. I thought Sprinters were light vans They are. But in UPS-speak, IIRC, the usual brown Cummins 4B-powered step van is referred to as a "package car". -- Jim ___ ht

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> Peter T. Arnold wrote: > I'm sorry, wasn't clear. I'm talking about light vans, NOT > package van, or Sprinters. I thought Sprinters were light vans -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list arc

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the situation you describe is somebody who has "tuned" their diesel to make more noise and smoke more. Why I dont know I guess they think its cool. Out of the box these diesel trucks these days are very quiet and dont smoke. Allan Streib wrote: On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 13:51 -0700, "Curt Raymond

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it could be done, but instead we are worried about hybrids and such. Curt Raymond wrote: I wish somebody would make a 1/2 ton diesel pickup. ~150hp ~30mpg... -Curt -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85

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you sick bastard." Curt Raymond wrote: If it is CT is special... MA, NH, VT, ME all have diesel package vans... -Curt Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 15:20:10 -0700 From: Alex Chamberlain Subject: Re: [MBZ] 4Matic To: Mercedes Discussion List Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=

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Yup, they build package vans to be rebuilt almost forever. Ever notice you NEVER see one in a junk yard? If they are hit hard, they go to bonded disassembly points. My BIL worked 25 years as security manager in the largest district. -- Pete Arnold 35" Prowler 5th wheel '95 F-250 P.S.D. Mem

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Alex Chamberlain writes: > Yeah, is that a regional thing, maybe? Every UPS truck I have ever > been close enough to to hear in my neck of the woods (western Oregon) > has sure sounded like a diesel. Around here most of them are gassers, except you also see a fair number of diesel Sprinters. A

Re: [MBZ] 4Matic

Eventually... Need to hit that magic confluence of time, space and money... -Curt Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 17:21:16 -0500 From: Fmiser Subject: Re: [MBZ] 4Matic To: Mercedes Discussion List Message-ID: <20090812172116.17990d5b.fmi...@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII

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If it is CT is special... MA, NH, VT, ME all have diesel package vans... -Curt Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 15:20:10 -0700 From: Alex Chamberlain Subject: Re: [MBZ] 4Matic To: Mercedes Discussion List Message-ID:     Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 3:00 PM

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