Re: [MBZ] 722.3 trans B2

2019-09-18 Thread Rick Hawkins Java Letterpress Cycles Photon via Mercedes
Folks, I replaces a B2 piston probably about 2009 with someone and I remember it being extremely hard to remove from the transmission ... this was with the transmission in the car I would do what it takes to remove and replace it since you are in so deeply Xx rick > On Sep 18, 2019, at 1:18

[MBZ] 722.3 trans B2

2019-09-18 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
I have the cover off the B2 piston.  the piston is aluminum, and dated 1991.  the outside looks significantly different from the new one.   It has a 115 277 60 38 part number, where the new one is 107 270 04 32 . I have the piston partway out, and now can't get it back in, or out without

[MBZ] 722.3 trans B2

2019-09-18 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
I have the cover off the B2 piston.  the piston is aluminum, and dated 1991.  the outside looks significantly different from the new one.   It has a 115 part number, where the new one is 107 270 . I have the piston partway out, and now can't get it back in, or out without forcing it.   It

Re: [MBZ] 722.3 trans update

2019-09-13 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
That is a good idea.  I had not thought of that Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote on 9/13/19 11:03 AM: You could likely make something that would work on top of a floor jack. The adapters generally just drop into the hole from which you remove the saddle. Bolt on a chunk of 3/4 plywood and

Re: [MBZ] 722.3 trans update

2019-09-13 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Let your fingers do the walking, find a tool rental place that has a transmission jack for rent.. or .. check at local FLAPS and see who they suggest, or if they have one for rent. One time use, daily charge, plus deposit... done and dusted. On Fri, Sep 13, 2019 at 3:38 PM Karl Wittnebel via

Re: [MBZ] 722.3 trans update

2019-09-13 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
+1. Just fab it up. Diesnt have to be pretty. On Fri, Sep 13, 2019, 9:07 AM Randy Bennell via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > On 13/09/2019 8:04 AM, MG via Mercedes wrote: > > How about this one? > > > > >

Re: [MBZ] 722.3 trans update

2019-09-13 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
On 13/09/2019 12:02 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote: https://www.harborfreight.com/automotive/jacks-jack-stands/transmission-jacks/450-lbs-low-lift-transmission-jack-61232.html I have one of these. I first got one of the adapters to put on the floor jack but it was too tall and I could

Re: [MBZ] 722.3 trans update

2019-09-13 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
On 13/09/2019 8:04 AM, MG via Mercedes wrote: How about this one? https://www.amazon.com/Roadstar-Adjustable-Trolley-Transmission-Adapter/dp/B07GBXXHNL/ref=sr_1_10?keywords=transmission+floor+jack+adapter=1568378311=8-10 MG You could likely make something that would work on top of a

Re: [MBZ] 722.3 trans update

2019-09-13 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
They have a bunch of brands now. I think "Chicago Electric" is still the "budget" brand. "Baur" seems to be the middle and "Hercules" the top. IIRC Dad's new saw is a Baur. -Curt On Friday, September 13, 2019, 11:13:40 AM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: I have one of their

Re: [MBZ] 722.3 trans update

2019-09-13 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I have one of their rechargeable drills (18 or 20 V, I think) that’s about 3-4 years old. One of the batteries has cacked, but the remaining one is still strong and the drill works great. Plenty of torque. I would buy another. I think it’s one of their Chicago something brands. -D > On Sep

Re: [MBZ] 722.3 trans update

2019-09-13 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
LOL, too right.Food prices are down due to lack of trade which is a disaster because, Farmers. Years ago when bio-fuels were big food prices were up which was a disaster because, poor people... -Curt On Friday, September 13, 2019, 8:36:38 AM EDT, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

Re: [MBZ] 722.3 trans update

2019-09-13 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Actually I think HF has raised their quality standard significantly. Dad bought a battery powered electric chainsaw that I fully expected to be junk that is surprisingly good. We've mostly used it for close limbing on trees. Cut the branch with clippers, then trim the stub right to the trunk

Re: [MBZ] 722.3 trans update

2019-09-13 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
: Curley McLain via Mercedes Date: 2019-09-12 11:53 PM (GMT-06:00) To: MG via Mercedes Cc: Curley McLain <126die...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 722.3 trans update yeah the cheapest trans jack I could find was around $75, and That is more than I want to pay for what may well be a one use thi

Re: [MBZ] 722.3 trans update

2019-09-13 Thread MG via Mercedes
How about this one? https://www.amazon.com/Roadstar-Adjustable-Trolley-Transmission-Adapter/dp/B07GBXXHNL/ref=sr_1_10?keywords=transmission+floor+jack+adapter=1568378311=8-10 MG Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:

Re: [MBZ] 722.3 trans update

2019-09-13 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Curley better get his tranny fixed right quick then --FT Sent from iPhone > On Sep 13, 2019, at 8:35 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes > wrote: > > we've only got 2 years and 8 months to Armageddon. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] 722.3 trans update

2019-09-13 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
That depends on which propaganda you prefer to listen to! Capitalists will tell you as much as 25%, Orange Crush sez the RedComms are footing the HUGE bill, donkey will tell you the sky is falling and the oceans are rising - we've only got 2 years and 8 months to Armageddon. - Max

Re: [MBZ] 722.3 trans update

2019-09-13 Thread tyee165 via Mercedes
: [MBZ] 722.3 trans update yeah the cheapest trans jack I could find was around $75, and That is more than I want to pay for what may well be a one use thing.  I thought HF had them for about $50, but they have raised prices to where I can buy one locally for less.  My guess is that HF has

Re: [MBZ] 722.3 trans update

2019-09-12 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
https://www.harborfreight.com/automotive/jacks-jack-stands/transmission-jacks/450-lbs-low-lift-transmission-jack-61232.html I have one of these. I first got one of the adapters to put on the floor jack but it was too tall and I could not get the vehicle high enough. This one goes down quite

Re: [MBZ] 722.3 trans update

2019-09-12 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
yeah the cheapest trans jack I could find was around $75, and That is more than I want to pay for what may well be a one use thing.  I thought HF had them for about $50, but they have raised prices to where I can buy one locally for less.  My guess is that HF has passed to the next generation,

Re: [MBZ] 722.3 trans update

2019-09-12 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
On 12/09/2019 10:51 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote: I found the shift lever seal on fleabay.  It arrived first!  I ordered it last!   still don't know the MB part number.  MB Tampa bay could not find P/N. The autohaus order came in after 7-8 days. The MB stealer websites all want very

Re: [MBZ] 722.3 trans update

2019-09-12 Thread MG via Mercedes
There is an attachment that fits into most floor jack holes and allows you to hold and tilt the transmission. Always wanted one. That said I just use the floor jack and hold the transmission on balance while pumping the handle with my leg. It doesn't take much as the transmission is light.

[MBZ] 722.3 trans update

2019-09-12 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
I found the shift lever seal on fleabay.  It arrived first!  I ordered it last!   still don't know the MB part number.  MB Tampa bay could not find P/N. The autohaus order came in after 7-8 days. The MB stealer websites all want very high shipping costs.   Like $18 shipping for the $3.75 k1

Re: [MBZ] 722.3 trans

2019-08-29 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I meant to write about this the other day. Back when we still had the 1996 Dodge Dakota the transmission got stuck in 1st gear. Angie had to drive it about 5 miles like that. As is so common it did it about 2 days before Christmas and this was right after we had bought our house and had no

Re: [MBZ] 722.3 trans

2019-08-29 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
I'd need to have  seal number to order from them. I am still looking for seal number for the shifter shaft seal, and for the orings (Pn or oring size) to seal the pumps FWIW, I just bought a bunch of seals from 123bearing.com. Its not the easiest to find stuff there since they stock so many

Re: [MBZ] 722.3 trans

2019-08-29 Thread MG via Mercedes
He will know better about the Mercedes then. going by sorry Justa 40 year old memory of doing US transmissions where we always replaced the seal and bushing and sometimes had to resize the bushing it it was too tight. AH those were the days. Why I remember..? well

Re: [MBZ] 722.3 trans

2019-08-29 Thread MG via Mercedes
He will know better about the Mercedes then. Just boing bu a 40 year old memory of doing US transmissions where we always replaced the seal and bushing and sometimes had to resize the bushing it it was too tight. AH those were the days. Why I remember..? well maybe I don't. MG Curley

Re: [MBZ] 722.3 trans

2019-08-29 Thread Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes
FWIW, I just bought a bunch of seals from 123bearing.com. Its not the easiest to find stuff there since they stock so many different parts, but they're very inexpensive. They ship from France, of all places, arrived in 2 days to me here in NJ. They also list vbelts... I might order a few

Re: [MBZ] 722.3 trans

2019-08-29 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
I didn’t say I replaced a front seal, I said you should replace the front seal if you’re going to reseal the box. As for the construction of such things in a Mercedes I have no experience, I was making a general comment. -D > On Aug 29, 2019, at 11:04 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes > wrote:

Re: [MBZ] 722.3 trans

2019-08-29 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
dunno, Dan sez he replaced front seal MG via Mercedes wrote on 8/29/19 10:00 AM: If I remember correctly you may have to look for those aftermarket because Mercedes wants to sell you only the whole front seal holder assembly. I think one of the people whom I approached about that said

Re: [MBZ] 722.3 trans

2019-08-29 Thread MG via Mercedes
If I remember correctly you may have to look for those aftermarket because Mercedes wants to sell you only the whole front seal holder assembly. I think one of the people whom I approached about that said something about there is no replaceable bushing in there and if you just put a seal in

Re: [MBZ] 722.3 trans

2019-08-29 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Thanks!   I dug out the "new" trans yesterday to see if I can find seal numbers, etc. Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote on 8/27/19 9:14 PM: In case this helps, here's a link to a 722.3 doc I found some time in the past: http://kittrellcommunitywatch.com/722.3.pdf or

Re: [MBZ] 722.3 trans

2019-08-28 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Does anyone have part numbers for the front pump seal (Per Dan) and the oring seal for the secondary pump on the side? Re: MG message:   I know some of the brands of transmission fixit juice are good.   I put some in the 124 300D, which could drop 1-2 qt overnite.  Since then, the trans has

Re: [MBZ] 722.3 trans

2019-08-27 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
Yes! Rick From: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: August 27, 2019 11:39 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: diese...@pisquared.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] 722.3 trans On Tue, 27 Aug 2019 17:41:24 -0500 Curley McLain via Mercedes mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:

Re: [MBZ] 722.3 trans

2019-08-27 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Tue, 27 Aug 2019 17:41:24 -0500 Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote: > I'd be glad to have the .pdf if you get somewhere with the bandwidth.  > No hurry.  It will probably take 1-2 weeks to get parts rounded up/ I have a ZIP file of a bunch of files on Mercedes transmissions. It is 28.56 MB.

Re: [MBZ] 722.3 trans

2019-08-27 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
Behalf Of > Curley McLain via Mercedes > Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2019 6:41 PM > To: MG via Mercedes > Cc: Curley McLain <126die...@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] 722.3 trans > > I'd be glad to have the .pdf if you get somewhere with the bandwidth. No > hurry. It will

Re: [MBZ] 722.3 trans

2019-08-27 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
I'd be glad to have the .pdf if you get somewhere with the bandwidth.  No hurry.  It will probably take 1-2 weeks to get parts rounded up/ Thanks for the P/Ns. MG via Mercedes wrote on 8/27/19 12:00 PM: The following come from a how to on the B2 replacement. B2 Piston - 107 270 04 32 (a 4th

Re: [MBZ] 722.3 trans

2019-08-27 Thread MG via Mercedes
The following come from a how to on the B2 replacement. B2 Piston - 107 270 04 32 (a 4th level supercession from the original number) the seal should come already installed on the piston. K1 Spring Kit - 126 270 44 77 (not required but a good idea) for 2-3 flair according to the how to.

Re: [MBZ] 722.3 trans

2019-08-27 Thread MG via Mercedes
If you have any problems with slipping due to the inside seals, try 1/2 of a quart bottle of Lucas Transmission Fix. I put that much in the transmission I took out of an old 126 when I installed it in my TD march of 2013 about 6 years ago. I was told the 126 had been in the junk yard over 4

Re: [MBZ] 722.3 trans

2019-08-27 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
The one time I did this I did only the front and front pump seals. The rear seal is accessible from outside. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] 722.3 trans

2019-08-27 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Oops forgot to ask: Anyone have the P/N for the B2 kit and the k3 spring?  I assume those will have to come from a dealer. I think the banjo fittings to the oil cooler are 10mm, so I ordered 4 of 10x15x1 copper seals.   Is that right? I used to have the instructions for the k3 spring, but

Re: [MBZ] 722.3 trans

2019-08-27 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
I found front / rear seals.  Anybody have part numbers for the shifter seal or the oring for the secondary pump on the side? Thanks The fluid seemed ok so I think reseal - install is the route to try.  I am concerned about 38 yr old orings inside, if there are any.

Re: [MBZ] 722.3 trans

2019-08-27 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
I think you have your answer, clean and re-seal, install and operational test. We'll be looking forward to your full report! One of those threads recommended soda blasting to clean, it absorbs the oil and grease and falls off, but gentle on the transmission. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC On

Re: [MBZ] 722.3 trans

2019-08-27 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
I wish I had the bandwidth to get through the 11 pages of forum.   Too bad the guy didn't distill it into one document with photos.   I looked at the first page.  Pretty interesting stuff. Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote on 8/26/19 11:39 AM: Here's the thread I was thinking about, should give

Re: [MBZ] 722.3 trans

2019-08-26 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Mon, 26 Aug 2019 14:24:34 -0400 Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: > "Semi-related", ha ha. Sorry! That was an unintentional pun. I didn't realize it was until I read your reply. Craig > On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 2:19 PM Craig via Mercedes > wrote: > > > Having done the conversion from

Re: [MBZ] 722.3 trans

2019-08-26 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
"Semi-related", ha ha. - Max Charleston SC On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 2:19 PM Craig via Mercedes wrote: > On Mon, 26 Aug 2019 00:15:15 -0500 Curley McLain via Mercedes > wrote: > > > Would it be easier to install 4 speed, flywheel. pedals and > > driveshaft? Having salvaged the

Re: [MBZ] 722.3 trans

2019-08-26 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Mon, 26 Aug 2019 00:15:15 -0500 Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote: > Would it be easier to install 4 speed, flywheel. pedals and > driveshaft?   Having salvaged the petals from Mao's 240D, I can attest > that it is not easy to swap petals, and the clutch master.  I'm > thinking it will be

Re: [MBZ] 722.3 trans

2019-08-26 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Here's the thread I was thinking about, should give you a good idea. 722.315, the guy used both ATSG manual and the WIS for section 27 of the FSM, plus a couple others he downloaded. http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/370024-going-rebuild-my-722-315-a.html Here is another for

Re: [MBZ] 722.3 trans

2019-08-26 Thread Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes
This is on my long term goals list... to get into a 722.x and start collecting the tools to the do the job. I have two 722.0's which I can experiment with, and the microfiche that covers those transmissions. Jaime On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 10:52 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <

Re: [MBZ] 722.3 trans

2019-08-26 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
For the most part a good snap ring pliers and compressed air are the main things. I’m not familiar with the innards of an MB transmission, but on the domestic stuff the specialized tools were mainly seal drivers and things to hold clutches and pressure plates together while you put snap rings

Re: [MBZ] 722.3 trans

2019-08-26 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
There is a thread on peach parts that documents a 722.? rebuild, either a .3 or a .4. Rebuild kit was only $150 or so, and the ATSG rebuild manual was sufficient. I think the fellow fabricated any special tools he needed from wood, his first time into an auto trans, and all it took was loads

Re: [MBZ] 722.3 trans

2019-08-26 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
thanks Dan.  Makes sense. This is a one year only AT used in 1981.  It has no cable for throttle position.  If I can get seal numbers they are easy to get from a bearing house.   B2/K3 Probably Autohaus, but maybe one of the others. Out of curiosity, what special tools are needed to repair

Re: [MBZ] 722.3 trans

2019-08-26 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I’ve done THMs (turbohydramatics - GM products) and C3s (Ford) back in the day. Not difficult to work on, and require a minimal amount of tools other than a high quality snap ring plier set. When I went to tech school to train as a mechanic I was pretty familiar with every system in a car

Re: [MBZ] 722.3 trans

2019-08-26 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Speaking of simple automatic transmissions I thought this C4 rebuild video as pretty cool: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKIvPdYB490 MB content, well, just watch... -Curt On Monday, August 26, 2019, 7:33:34 AM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: If it was out of the car I would

Re: [MBZ] 722.3 trans

2019-08-26 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
If it was out of the car I would probably replace all the external stuff I could get to, that is, seals like the front pump seal, tailshaft, selector rod shaft, B2/K3, vacuum stuff, etc. Not sure I would tear into the internals unless absolutely necessary. I’ve rebuilt domestic slushboxes,

[MBZ] 722.3 trans

2019-08-25 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
I'm getting some of the projects ahead whittled down so I am beginning to think more about replacing the dead trans in the 81 240D.  I have a used trans from Kaleb that is supposed to be good.  However the seals are old and so are all rubber parts.  I think I should put in new seals for sure.