I agree. You could do a lot worse.
On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 11:59 AM Max Dillon via Mercedes <
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> Probably fine. I've bought other Behr stuff, no issues. Note the review.
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> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
>
> On July 25, 2019 11:46:49 AM EDT, Allan Streib via
Probably fine. I've bought other Behr stuff, no issues. Note the review.
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Max Dillon
Charleston SC
On July 25, 2019 11:46:49 AM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes
wrote:
>Any opinion on the Behr unit that FCP says is "OEM" and will fit my
>W116 300SD?
>
Any opinion on the Behr unit that FCP says is "OEM" and will fit my W116 300SD?
https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/mercedes-a-c-compressor-0002304711
Allan
Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes writes:
> 86 and up
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>> On Jul 24, 2019, at 8:36 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes
>>
compressor, especially
on Diesels.
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> Subject: Re: [MBZ] AC options for 300SD
>
86 and up
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> On Jul 24, 2019, at 8:36 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes
> wrote:
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> 126 compressors are Nippondenso I think, at least the diesels are.
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126 compressors are Nippondenso I think, at least the diesels are.
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AH. I guess the 126 has the compressor oriented
different from the 123.
Clay Monroe via Mercedes wrote:
Exact same mountings and position based on the spare compressor I found while
digging through all the W126 goodies in my stash. Turned out I had the whole
set up already but for the O
The oil feed is internal. I think one simply takes off the front cap, rotates
it 180 degrees, and install with fresh seals. That will allow oil to flow to
front seal, maybe the bearing too? Not sure of the construction.
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Max Dillon
Charleston SC
On July 23, 2019 4:26:15 PM EDT, Clay
Exact same mountings and position based on the spare compressor I found while
digging through all the W126 goodies in my stash. Turned out I had the whole
set up already but for the O rings just sitting in a rubbermaid tub.
clay
> On Jul 23, 2019, at 6:43 AM, MG via Mercedes wrote:
>
> Now
Now all you have to do is find out how to spin it to
get the oil pickup on the bottom when it is in it's new
position on the Mercedes.
MG
Clay Monroe via Mercedes wrote:
I rescued one from a Chebby truck at PnP. Not bad for the price and had a 12v
supply in the tool box to check the clutch
I rescued one from a Chebby truck at PnP. Not bad for the price and had a 12v
supply in the tool box to check the clutch would engage. Think I paid $12.
Made sure to cut the hoses far from the working bits and stopper them with a
duct tape bandage to keep it sanitary
clay
> On Jul 22,
Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes writes:
> In terms of the compressor, I'll be using a genuine MB R4, which isn't
> cheap. But I don't plan to do this again for the next 10-20 years. But
> there are cheaper options.
Where does one buy this genuine compressor? Dealer? Unfortunately there
isn't
.
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> Allan Streib via Mercedes
> Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2019 1:03 PM
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Cc: Allan Streib
> Subject: [MBZ] AC options for 300SD
>
> I am wanting to get m
The thing about reed valves is that they inherently one-way...
-Curt
On Thursday, July 18, 2019, 5:08:49 PM EDT, Randy Bennell via Mercedes
wrote:
On 18/07/2019 3:32 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> They have a “valve plate” that has some circular discs that act as valves.
> I’m
On 18/07/2019 3:32 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
They have a “valve plate” that has some circular discs that act as valves. I’m
not sure that they’re reed valves in that sense.
-D
Sounds similar. Thin metal that opens and closes.
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They have a “valve plate” that has some circular discs that act as valves. I’m
not sure that they’re reed valves in that sense.
-D
> On Jul 18, 2019, at 4:16 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> I am no expert on these things. Do they have valves similar to the thin reed
> valve
I am no expert on these things. Do they have valves similar to the thin
reed valve type things in air compressors? I have been told that the
valves in my York are suspect as the compressor clutch kicks in and the
pump runs but it does not compress as the pressure levels on high and
low are
Certainly!
For example:
https://www.shopcenturyautoair.com/store/c20/York.html
-D
> On Jul 18, 2019, at 3:59 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> Is it possible to get parts for a York and rebuild it?
>
>
> On 18/07/2019 2:24 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes wrote:
>> Yes, I've
Is it possible to get parts for a York and rebuild it?
On 18/07/2019 2:24 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes wrote:
Yes, I've replaced Yorks with Sanden compressors in the past. I've also
run cars with original Yorks. Given the choice, I usually go for the York
as they're simple and super
Since it’s not currently in play, take it off and disassemble it. You have
nothing to lose at this point….
Most of these are pretty simple devices and easy to disassemble. In some cases
you can even obtain replacement parts, too.
While it’s a totally different compressor, I’ve rebuilt
Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes writes:
> I'm not sure sure the R4 is as robust, but I do believe those germans knew
> what they were doing when they designed the brackets, pulleys, etc. There
> is so much to consider from an engineering standpoint that isn't
> necessarily considered when
Yes, I've replaced Yorks with Sanden compressors in the past. I've also
run cars with original Yorks. Given the choice, I usually go for the York
as they're simple and super reliable. I'd put money on them out living any
Sanden compressor. They are power hungry... I might go for a sanden on a
I suspect Jaime will opt for the York, but in my experience there’s nothing
wrong with the Yorks as they’re pretty bulletproof. I’ve got the original York
on the 220SEb, and it pulls a wicked vacuum and doesn’t bog the engine down,
even at idle.
-D
> On Jul 18, 2019, at 3:02 PM, Allan Streib
I second this. They’re cheap and it’s excellent insurance. Whenever I replace a
major component I install a filter or inlet screen in the compressor.
-D
> On Jul 18, 2019, at 1:59 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> If the compressor is damaged, do yourself a favor and have a
I am leaning towards keeping R12. If the system doesn't leak, I agree
that it's not a significant cost and that's what it's designed for.
My question on the Sanden vs. original was thinking that perhaps a
modern compressor is better than 1970s technology, from the standpoints
of longevity,
Craig via Mercedes writes:
> On Thu, 18 Jul 2019 12:59:13 -0500 Peter Frederick via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
>> If the compressor is damaged, do yourself a favor and have a filter
>> installed in the suction line. That will trap any shrapnel floating
>> around, it's impossible to get it all out.
On Thu, 18 Jul 2019 12:59:13 -0500 Peter Frederick via Mercedes
wrote:
> If the compressor is damaged, do yourself a favor and have a filter
> installed in the suction line. That will trap any shrapnel floating
> around, it's impossible to get it all out. If you don't, the debris
> will
If the compressor is damaged, do yourself a favor and have a filter installed
in the suction line. That will trap any shrapnel floating around, it's
impossible to get it all out. If you don't, the debris will promptly trash the
replacement compressor.
> The R4 is not bad, just a little noisy and power hungry.
So, where does the excess energy go? Everything we're talking
about is a displacement pump, using reed valves. The only thing
different is the number, size, and orientation of cylinders. (Ranging
from 2 in the York to 5x2=10 in the
And since this is a relatively simple system, I would encourage you to replace
the flexible lines. If they’re the originals they will be porous, and while the
system might hold a charge for a while, it will eventually leak out over few
months. New lines aren’t that expensive, you can get a
I'm getting ready to do this on my W116 300SD as the AC compressor went bad
earlier this year.
My plans are:
1. Remove compressor, expansion valve, and receiver/dryer and flush the
lines, condenser, and evaporator with AC flush solvent.
2. Install new compressor, expansion valve and R/D.
3.
Yes, correct on the compressor. Upgrade kits for installing a Sanden are
out there (check on Peach Parts forum, I think there is a guy there selling
kits).
Is it possible to get the regular GM compressor and rotate some part (the
front cover?) so it will work "upside down"? Worth looking into.
I will add that this car was never "converted" to R134 it still has the
original schrader valves.
Allan
Rory via Mercedes writes:
> Hey Allan,
>
> When you find a compressor I know a lot of the R12 guys are using R290 or
> in other words, propane and they say it blows ice cubes. Getting ready
Hey Allan,
When you find a compressor I know a lot of the R12 guys are using R290 or
in other words, propane and they say it blows ice cubes. Getting ready to
charge my '88 Montero wit it.
Rory
On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 10:04 AM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> I am
I am wanting to get my AC going in my W116 300SD. Has not worked since I
got it. From what I can tell, the compressor is totally siezed, and I
have the belt removed.
These are an "upside down" GM compressor is that right? Are there
better options e.g. Sanden or something else?
What else should I
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