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2016-05-21 Thread clay via Mercedes
Dad was there before the police action began, GI Bill got him through college and allowed him to serve his nation officially for the next 35 years On May 20, 2016, at 7:40 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes wrote: > clay wrote: >> ...dad was in Korea... > > my dad also and from pnw like you. my da

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2016-05-20 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
This one? http://wmbf.images.worldnow.com/images/8716191_G.jpg Almost everyone has a cap, but far left, above the microphone, there is what may be a bare headed guy. Mountain Man via Mercedes May 20, 2016 at 9:52 PMvia Postbox

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2016-05-20 Thread Russ Williams via Mercedes
Mercedes Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 7:07 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Jon Agne Subject: Re: [MBZ] Banos Just one question to all have posted on this page: Who has served? Jon ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http

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2016-05-20 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
Curley wrote: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_Armistice_Agreement#/media/File:Korean_War_armistice_agreement_1953.jpg > The guy on the left? I found that photo also. It does not ring a bell in my mind. My mind remembers flat deck of ship and lotsa people. I probably remember wrong. Mom

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2016-05-20 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_Armistice_Agreement#/media/File:Korean_War_armistice_agreement_1953.jpg The guy on the left? Mountain Man via Mercedes May 20, 2016 at 9:52 PMvia Postbox

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2016-05-20 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
Curley wrote: > Is there a link to this picture online? i saw it someplace once but don't recall if it was online or newspaper, maybe wiki? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change deliv

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2016-05-20 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Is there a link to this picture online? Mountain Man via Mercedes May 20, 2016 at 9:40 PMvia Postbox my dad also and from pnw like you. my dad is chrome dome in picture of armi

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2016-05-20 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
clay wrote: > ...dad was in Korea... my dad also and from pnw like you. my dad is chrome dome in picture of armistice signing on the boat deck at punjamon. army language school fluent mandarin could not be discerned as american on phone. but i didn't know him. mao __

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2016-05-20 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
In my like of work, it generally involved body parts, not always recovered. > > Sorry, just one more question: > > How many have seen their squadron mate on a morgue table? > > Carry on. Talk amongst yourselves. > > Jon ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To sea

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2016-05-20 Thread clay via Mercedes
I was more 4F than useful, Grandfather was first class of USMC OCS in 1920, uncle was USMC in the Pacific war, dad was in Korea, nephew is awaiting commission in USMC. clay On May 20, 2016, at 5:52 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote: >> Who has served? > > Not I. But, I do manage to qualify

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2016-05-20 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
It means you are very fortunate in many ways. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Jim Cathey via Mercedes" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Cc: "Jim Cathey" Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 8:52 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Banos Who has served? Not I. But, I

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2016-05-20 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
Who has served? Not I. But, I do manage to qualify for USAA insurance, does that count? :-) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz

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2016-05-19 Thread Craig via Mercedes
y, May 18, 2016 7:07 PM > > To: Mercedes Discussion List > > Cc: Jon Agne > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Banos > > > > Just one question to all have posted on this page: > > > > Who has served? > > > > Jon > > > > > > &g

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2016-05-19 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
USAF 25 years Scott > -Original Message- > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Jon > Agne via Mercedes > Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 7:07 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Cc: Jon Agne > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Banos > > Ju

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2016-05-19 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I figured thats what you meant but its not what you wrote. Voting age was 18 starting in 1971 which was Vietnam era...:) -Curt From: G Mann To: Curt Raymond ; Mercedes Discussion List Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 5:14 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Banos Curt, First tour in Vietnam was

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2016-05-19 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
18, 26th amendment, 1971. > -Curt > > From: G Mann via Mercedes > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Cc: G Mann > Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 7:17 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Banos > > Kaleb, > > I left out an important feature of the era. At 18 you are ol

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2016-05-19 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
You can certainly vote at 18, 26th amendment, 1971. -Curt From: G Mann via Mercedes To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: G Mann Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 7:17 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Banos Kaleb, I left out an important feature of the era. At 18 you are old enough to serve and be

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2016-05-19 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
I had been accepted into AF ROTC as a transfer from Army ROTC (transferred schools as well) when the lottery came up. Due to my 20/200 I had to impress them to take me - I would have been an EE. The Army new 2nd Louies did not have a reputation for living long in Nam. I ended up failing to get into

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2016-05-19 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
t Cc: Jon Agne Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 7:06 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Banos Just one question to all have posted on this page: Who has served? Jon > On May 18, 2016, at 6:57 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > I was not around then and am thinking about myself

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2016-05-19 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
8, 2016 6:57 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Banos I was not around then and am thinking about myself when I was 18 and now we have kid who just turned 18, I could not imagine a world where I was being sent off to possibly die. The kid certainly could not imagine it now days. Sent from my iPhone > On May

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2016-05-19 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
nn via Mercedes To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: G Mann Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 6:36 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Banos Vietnam era logic using a mix of fact and presumptions: 1. Cut off your junk and live as a woman with ZERO chance of changing back. Live with the culture as a tranny

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2016-05-19 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Ditto. I drew 248, which was high enough considering my draft board included some tough parts of town, e.g., Hell's Kitchen. On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 8:48 AM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > Ditto, for the most part. I drew 324 and dropped out of ROTC. My best > friend drew 24, stayed in ROTC, let

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2016-05-19 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Ditto, for the most part. I drew 324 and dropped out of ROTC. My best friend drew 24, stayed in ROTC, let the army send him through medical school, and the war was over before he finished his internship. I have several high school classmates on the wall in D.C. - have "visited" them there and intro

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2016-05-18 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
It was a scary and sad time, both for that "war" and for our country. A lot of people were "broken" by the war, social issues, drugs, and more. I always considered myself lucky and thanked the lottery gods. I've always had the highest respect for the people who served and the lowest respect for

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2016-05-18 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Having served, I consider myself very fortunate that none of my shipmates died. Someday I'd like to hear your story Jon. Aviator, right? I think the mortality rate among naval aviators was 25% in a twenty year career? That was peace time mortality rate. 1 in 4, just during normal operations.

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2016-05-18 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Speaking of which... Some years ago the company I worked for had a contract at an Army facility. For some reason unclear it fell to me to monitor this activity so I would go to this place every few months and act like I knew what was going on, have meetings and make appropriate comments, qu

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2016-05-18 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
My father was changed by Vietnam for sure. I have been told by people who knew him before that he came out a different person. He suffers from ptsd and agent orange related issues. Many of the vets his age that he sees at the VA have been dying off lately from various cancers and what not. Sent

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2016-05-18 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
Yep, Vietnam was a tragedy exceeded by only slavery and the Civil War as the nation's greatest tragedy. Wilton - Original Message - From: "rogerhga--- via Mercedes" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 7:39 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ]

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2016-05-18 Thread Michael Esh via Mercedes
Yes. USMC. Michael Esh 231-894-5505 > On May 18, 2016, at 7:06 PM, Jon Agne via Mercedes > wrote: > > Just one question to all have posted on this page: > > Who has served? > > Jon > > >> On May 18, 2016, at 6:57 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> I was not around then

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2016-05-18 Thread rogerhga--- via Mercedes
WellViet Nam. I was sitting in the student union in college watching draft "birthday" numbers being drawn. I saw guys crying because they got a low number (I think at the time 80 or less and you were Asia bound). My BD came out 332, the best lottery I have ever won in my life. My older broth

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2016-05-18 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
ge - From: "Jon Agne via Mercedes" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Cc: "Jon Agne" Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 7:09 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Banos Sorry, just one more question: How many have seen their squadron mate on a morgue table? Carry on. Talk amon

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2016-05-18 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
I have not had either experience. Most people today (young) would not know anything about that. Sent from my iPhone > On May 18, 2016, at 6:09 PM, Jon Agne via Mercedes > wrote: > > Sorry, just one more question: > > How many have seen their squadron mate on a morgue table? > > Carry on. T

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2016-05-18 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Kaleb, I left out an important feature of the era. At 18 you are old enough to serve and be sent to the war.. but not legally old enough to Vote.. or buy a beer... I lived through that period... several who served with me did not. To answer the question about the morgue table.. only carried them

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2016-05-18 Thread Jon Agne via Mercedes
Sorry, just one more question: How many have seen their squadron mate on a morgue table? Carry on. Talk amongst yourselves. Jon > On May 18, 2016, at 6:57 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > I was not around then and am thinking about myself when I was 18 and now we > have kid

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2016-05-18 Thread Jon Agne via Mercedes
Just one question to all have posted on this page: Who has served? Jon > On May 18, 2016, at 6:57 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > I was not around then and am thinking about myself when I was 18 and now we > have kid who just turned 18, I could not imagine a world where I wa

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2016-05-18 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
I was not around then and am thinking about myself when I was 18 and now we have kid who just turned 18, I could not imagine a world where I was being sent off to possibly die. The kid certainly could not imagine it now days. Sent from my iPhone > On May 18, 2016, at 5:36 PM, G Mann via Mercede

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2016-05-18 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Vietnam era logic using a mix of fact and presumptions: 1. Cut off your junk and live as a woman with ZERO chance of changing back. Live with the culture as a tranny in 1960's, with all the social rejection that came with it, then. 2. Maintain a 2S student deferment, stay in college, get a degree

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2016-05-18 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
Kaleb wrote: > I'm thinking maybe a lot would convert to woman to avoid the draft ala Klinger Nope. Convert to woman is a banned topic. Convert don't happen - not now, not then. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/ar

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2016-05-18 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
I'm thinking maybe a lot would convert to woman to avoid the draft ala Klinger Sent from my iPhone > On May 18, 2016, at 5:00 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes > wrote: > > Kaleb wrote: >> Can you imagine how many men would have converted to identifying as female >> back in the 60's? > > There w

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2016-05-18 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
Kaleb wrote: > Can you imagine how many men would have converted to identifying as female > back in the 60's? There weren't many back then, there aren't many today. Someone is trying to do whatever - it certainly ain't us. Media is playing us as schmucks. mao

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2016-05-18 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
ercedes Discussion List' > Cc: Scott Ritchey > Sent: Friday, May 13, 2016 12:15 AM > Subject: [MBZ] Banos > > > I have to wonder how many folks have actually read the "bill" ( > <http://www.ncleg.net/Sessions/2015E2/Bills/House/PDF/H2v4.pdf> ) > vs.

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2016-05-13 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
was a founder but he > >> was an early participant in some fashion. I think he opened a store in > >> Hahvahd Squayuh in 78 or so, or had something to do with it. > >> > >> --BB > >> > >> > >> On 5/13/16 7:12 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: > >&

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2016-05-13 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
On 5/13/16 7:12 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: > >> Put in the clivis multrum composting toilets, allow the students to do >> the cleaning and composting, it'll be a valuable lesson in the circle of >> life. >> -Curt >> >> From: Curly McLain vi

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2016-05-13 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
n 78 or so, or had something to do with it. >> >> --BB >> >> >> On 5/13/16 7:12 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: >> >>> Put in the clivis multrum composting toilets, allow the students to do >>> the cleaning and composting, it'll be a va

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2016-05-13 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
rly McLain <126die...@gmail.com> Sent: Friday, May 13, 2016 5:00 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Banos Just close the bathrooms and showers at the skools. Put jim's johns out back at least 200 yards away. It would drasticly cut down the raised hand traffic to only what is essential and whate

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2016-05-13 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
13, 2016 5:00 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Banos Just close the bathrooms and showers at the skools.  Put jim's johns out back at least 200 yards away.  It would drasticly cut down the raised hand traffic to only what is essential and whatever identity does not matter.  NOBODY wants to

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2016-05-13 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
ent: Friday, May 13, 2016 3:54 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Banos Grant, Which action(s) do you consider to be the political over reach:  City of Charlotte, NC HB2, US Justice Department suit?  All? > -Original Message- > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf

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2016-05-13 Thread clay via Mercedes
Potty tipping would become a required ritual and all manner of bullied child would be know by their blue coloration and manure scent clay On May 13, 2016, at 2:00 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: > Just close the bathrooms and showers at the skools. Put jim's johns out back > at least 200

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2016-05-13 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
Just close the bathrooms and showers at the skools. Put jim's johns out back at least 200 yards away. It would drasticly cut down the raised hand traffic to only what is essential and whatever identity does not matter. NOBODY wants to use a portapotty. Bring back the old half moon outhou

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2016-05-13 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Bring back the old half moon outhouses (one seaters, of course). On Fri, May 13, 2016 at 4:41 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote: > Maybe the solution is to do a full chromosomal identification to verify XY > gender. A GenID is marked upon your forehead. The Pure XX or XY can use > appropriate holes

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2016-05-13 Thread clay via Mercedes
Maybe the solution is to do a full chromosomal identification to verify XY gender. A GenID is marked upon your forehead. The Pure XX or XY can use appropriate holes in ground, while the muddled XXY, XYX sorts are given a tree or shrub as needed. clay On May 13, 2016, at 12:54 PM, Scott Ritch

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2016-05-13 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
I suspect they really wanted to define biological gender as "what's between your legs" but that probably sounded too indelicate to say or to demonstrate at a legal proceeding. According to the governor, he expects folks would get their birth certificate corrected after a sex change. IMO, HB2 i

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2016-05-13 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
Sorry. My bad. > -Original Message- > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of > rogerhga--- via Mercedes > Sent: Friday, May 13, 2016 8:38 AM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Cc: roger...@comcast.net > Subject: [MBZ] Banos > > Scot

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2016-05-13 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
1:06 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Cc: G Mann > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Banos > ... > > Yet again, however, politics has breached areas of personal space that it has > not authority to do.. The purpose of the 10th Amendment of the Bill of > Rights is to clearly limit

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2016-05-13 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
Well, even with all the legalese and deletes text, HB2 is less than 5 pages. -Original Message- From: clay via Mercedes Why would they read the pee pee bill if they would not read the OsamaCare bill? > clay 5 pages is something like 3rd grade level. Far beyond the capabili

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2016-05-13 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
Well, even with all the legalese and deletes text, HB2 is less than 5 pages. > -Original Message- > From: clay via Mercedes > > Why would they read the pee pee bill if they would not read the OsamaCare > bill? > > clay > ___ http://www.okiebenz.co

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2016-05-13 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
Ditto here, except it was France. I think the real concern is places like girl's showers in schools vs. ordinary bathrooms. > -Original Message- > From: Meade Dillon via Mercedes > Sent: Friday, May 13, 2016 11:32 AM > > Like our newest list member, BB, I've found the European mode to b

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2016-05-13 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Fortunately, I have a private back yard to none of this applies to me. On Fri, May 13, 2016 at 1:05 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: > It is my observation that "You have to pass it to see what is in it." only > works with stool samples.. not politics.. > > As we are seeing here on this August Boa

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2016-05-13 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
It is my observation that "You have to pass it to see what is in it." only works with stool samples.. not politics.. As we are seeing here on this August Board, which enjoys a higher than average IQ and credentials, the issue of a bathroom is quite personal and privacy without intrusion is sacrosa

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2016-05-13 Thread clay via Mercedes
Why would they read the pee pee bill if they would not read the OsamaCare bill? clay On May 12, 2016, at 9:38 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: >> I have to wonder how many folks have actually read the "bill" ( >> ) >> vs. echo

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2016-05-13 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Like our newest list member, BB, I've found the European mode to be a little disconcerting at first, but as long as everyone behaves it works fine. In my experience (Italy) at public restrooms quite often there is an attendant in the male restroom, usually an older lady, who keeps the place clean

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2016-05-13 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
From: Scott Ritchey via Mercedes To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Cc: Scott Ritchey Sent: Friday, May 13, 2016 12:15 AM Subject: [MBZ] Banos I have to wonder how many folks have actually read the "bill" ( <http://www.ncleg.net/Sessions/2015E2/Bills/House/PDF/

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2016-05-13 Thread rogerhga--- via Mercedes
Scott, Please don't add facts to this discussion. It's like the AG speaking about a counter suit to NC and made the whole thing about racewhere did that come from. I simply go back to mother nature: if you have a penis, use the men's room, if you have a vagina, use the women's room, if by a

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2016-05-12 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
> Scott wrote: > > young children, janitors, EMPs, etc. are exempted I, quite clearly, am an etc. I think I even have a shirt around here that has ETC printed on it. Electronic Theater Control https://www.etcconnect.com/ https://shop.etcconnect.com/etc-mens-t-shirt/ ___

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2016-05-12 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
I have to wonder how many folks have actually read the "bill" ( ) vs. echoing talking points from their respective zelots? As far as I can tell, it says: (1) only men use men's rooms (restrooms, changing, showers, etc.), (2) only w

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2016-05-12 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
I have to wonder how many folks have actually read the "bill" ( ) vs. echoing talking points from their respective zelots? As far as I can tell, it says: (1) only men use men's rooms (restrooms, changing, showers, etc.), (2) only w