Re: [MBZ] Carburetor trouble

2018-08-02 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
I remember some needle valves from the '50s through the '70s that had rubber tips - I suspect that those would not do well with ethanol. Rubber was also in the fuel pumps and fuel lines. Call your congress critter and demand an end to ethanol contaminated fuel! On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 10:25 AM,

Re: [MBZ] Carburetor trouble

2018-08-02 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
A few years ago "Vintage Truck" magazine had an article on fuel lines that are impervious to alcohol and other solvents. I forget the actual info but he said there was a letter code on the good hose that indicated that it was rated for alcohol bearing fuel. Apparently since those small hoses

Re: [MBZ] Carburetor trouble

2018-08-02 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
It is and old wives tale that had some element of truth in 1972 for a few crappy cars. Up until the late 60s carbs had a brass float and paper or cork gaskets. I have never seen a paper or cork gasket ruined by alcohol. A brass float is impervious. Brass jets and needle valves: Ditto.

Re: [MBZ] Carburetor trouble

2018-08-02 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
The Pressure relief valve will be at the carb, where the return line is attached. as with everything, it will need to be cleaned by running or by disassembly. I think you either have a stuck needle valve or a sunken float. KISS Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote: It has a mechanical fuel

Re: [MBZ] Carburetor trouble

2018-08-01 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Sometimes, not often (and Chucktown craigslist looks terrible compared to my local Craigslist) I see a water cooled 12-16hp Kubota lawn tractor in running condition on CL for $400-800. There's one for $800 right now. (and no, it wasn't made in the 1970s, but late 1980s is possible)

Re: [MBZ] Carburetor trouble

2018-08-01 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
5 Kw would be ok, I'd like a little more but I've got to balance capacity against price and foot print, space in my garage is precious. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On July 31, 2018 3:58:50 PM GMT+02:00, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: >I see them in the 5Kw range on

Re: [MBZ] Carburetor trouble

2018-07-31 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I see them in the 5Kw range on Craigslist from time to time. Usually in the $1000 range. Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 9:46 AM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: On Tue, 31 Jul 2018 07:54:41 +0200 Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote: > A small diesel generator would be

Re: [MBZ] Carburetor trouble

2018-07-31 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Tue, 31 Jul 2018 07:54:41 +0200 Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote: > A small diesel generator would be really neat! What size are you considering? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or

Re: [MBZ] Carburetor trouble

2018-07-31 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Snowmobiles are particularly susceptible to fuel problems, they sit all summer and are often wet, they usually have cap vented fuel tanks and the vents leak water while they're sitting. Best treatment I've found is 1oz of Seafoam per gallon of gas in EVERY tank, 2oz per gallon for summer

Re: [MBZ] Carburetor trouble

2018-07-30 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
My two small engines that get regular use have each had carb trouble just once over almost twenty years (lawnmower and two-stroke weed whacker). Lawnmower got a new carb, whacker got a rebuild kit, both decisions driven by price. Whacker also had melted fuel lines once, easy enough to replace

Re: [MBZ] Carburetor trouble

2018-07-30 Thread clay monroe via Mercedes
I remember when the E10 junk was pushed upon us so many years ago. The older cars had all manner of issue with rubber bit failures. I had to deal with three cars within 6 months needing hoses and gaskets due to being melted by ethanol.The replacement rubber bits did work better, but the

Re: [MBZ] Carburetor trouble

2018-07-30 Thread Larry Turner via Mercedes
And I bet the problems return every 2-3 years/seasons?  Had a lengthy talk with our small engine specialist who said essentially what you said.  She said repairing needle/seats were a large part of their business now.    And they have a backlog of 2-3 weeks basically on a continuous basis.

Re: [MBZ] Carburetor trouble

2018-07-30 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
Yeah, zamac and water are a poor mix. Back in the day the zamac was chrome treated, helped a great deal with the corrosion (which is why all carbs had that "gold" look to them, it's potassium dichromate if I remember correctly). Reminds me I need to get the generator out and clean the tank and

Re: [MBZ] Carburetor trouble

2018-07-30 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Over the past 2 years, I've had a number of small engines [and a couple of car gas engines] with "ethanol induced failure" of the fuel system... in each case, same problem set. Here is what I've found. The ethanol fuel sucks water out of the air. The water reacts with aluminum interiors of the

Re: [MBZ] Carburetor trouble

2018-07-30 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
I'm always amused by ethanol destroying plastic or rubber parts in carburetors. After all, gasoline has contained some amount of ethanol since 1972 somewhere in the country at one time or another. MTBE isn't much better, and was more widely used, too. Surely ethanol resistant materials are

Re: [MBZ] Carburetor trouble

2018-07-30 Thread Larry Turner via Mercedes
The ethanol probably destroyed the gaskets long ago. Larry On 07/30/2018 4:32 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote: Yeah, but nobody seems to keep a rebuild kit in stock, so I'll have to order one for delivery. Thirty year old gaskets may not hold up to R

Re: [MBZ] Carburetor trouble

2018-07-30 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Mon, 30 Jul 2018 22:36:24 +0200 Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote: > Yes Craig, down draft, this is an old Fiat. Fun car, when it runs! > Fix It Again Tony. Actually dirt simple and easy to work on, once I > can get back into the brain memory banks with gasser carburetor info. I had a friend

Re: [MBZ] Carburetor trouble

2018-07-30 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Yes Craig, down draft, this is an old Fiat. Fun car, when it runs! Fix It Again Tony. Actually dirt simple and easy to work on, once I can get back into the brain memory banks with gasser carburetor info. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On July 30, 2018 9:27:00 PM GMT+02:00,

Re: [MBZ] Carburetor trouble

2018-07-30 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Yeah, but nobody seems to keep a rebuild kit in stock, so I'll have to order one for delivery. Thirty year old gaskets may not hold up to R -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On July 30, 2018 9:17:54 PM GMT+02:00, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: >The float and pin might be

Re: [MBZ] Carburetor trouble

2018-07-30 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
It has a mechanical fuel pump, I have not tested the fuel pressure. Judging from the amount of fuel, the problem is definitely not low fuel pressure. There is a fuel return line, but I don't know about a pressure regulator. I'll read up on the Haynes manual and see if there is any info on

Re: [MBZ] Carburetor trouble

2018-07-30 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
What sort of fuel pump does it have? Have you tested to see what the fuel pressure is? Does it have any sort of fuel pressure regulator? RB On 30/07/2018 2:11 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote: Working on a car with a carburetor, a single draft Weber, and the car keeps flooding. It will

Re: [MBZ] Carburetor trouble

2018-07-30 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Mon, 30 Jul 2018 15:17:54 -0400 Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: > The float and pin might be completely goobered up with varnish and > sludge, a good cleaning will probably sort that out. Yes, that sounds like the problem alright. What kind of car has a single (down, I presume)draft

Re: [MBZ] Carburetor trouble

2018-07-30 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
The float and pin might be completely goobered up with varnish and sludge, a good cleaning will probably sort that out. --FT On 7/30/18 3:11 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote: Working on a car with a carburetor, a single draft Weber, and the car keeps flooding. It will start and run for

[MBZ] Carburetor trouble

2018-07-30 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Working on a car with a carburetor, a single draft Weber, and the car keeps flooding. It will start and run for just a few seconds, and then floods and dies. Gasoline wells up in the top and overflows the sides of the carburetor. Car has been sitting for three years. I'm thinking the float

Re: [MBZ] Carburetor Trouble

2012-01-02 Thread Greg Fiorentino
...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Herrman Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 9:35 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Carburetor Trouble RE: Autolite 2100 Carburetor - 72 Ford F250 I have now isolated my immediate problem to a plastic part of the choke mechanism which has broken off and allows

Re: [MBZ] Carburetor Trouble

2012-01-02 Thread Craig
On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 14:32:53 -0800 Greg Fiorentino gf...@dslnorthwest.net wrote: It looks like a new one could be machined from Aluminum (6061 alloy would be good) or machinable plastic. PEEK is an expensive but easily machineable plastic that is temperature resistant to 250 C. If you do get

Re: [MBZ] Carburetor Trouble

2012-01-02 Thread G Mann
that is temperature resistant to 250 C. Greg -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Herrman Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 9:35 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Carburetor Trouble RE: Autolite 2100 Carburetor

Re: [MBZ] Carburetor Trouble

2012-01-01 Thread Dieselhead
If it was closer... My company would buy it in a flash. Been looking for a pickup for local light hauling. Not gonna pay the prices the licensed dealers want. There are always journeymen, and apptentice tradesmen looking for a pickup that runs. The beauty of a 72 is minimal smog crap,

Re: [MBZ] Carburetor Trouble

2012-01-01 Thread Dieselhead
I had a 73(?) F250 company truck back in the day. on a good day with a tailwind, it might get 10 MPG. But only if you drove like a supermileage contest winner. What you have is pretty normal. I'd be sorely tempted to put a newer SBC in it. THat probably would not improve the mileage

Re: [MBZ] Carburetor Trouble

2012-01-01 Thread Peter Frederick
Big carb, 4.11 rear end gears, 4 mpg whether you are climbing mountains or coasting downhill with the clutch in. Seems to have been a standard goal of the manufacturers in the day, to burn as much fuel as possible in the shortest possible time. Switch the rear end to 3.88s and it will

[MBZ] Carburetor Trouble

2011-12-31 Thread Jerry Herrman
To set the record straight, with 75,000 miles on the odometer, this is a 1972 Ford F250 Camper Special with dual gas tanks, dual batteries, the nearly bullet-proof C6 automatic transmission, and rear overload springs that make it suitable for inducing labor for anyone past her due date. Doesn't

Re: [MBZ] Carburetor Trouble

2011-12-31 Thread Peter Frederick
Unless they have gone out of sight in recent years, a carb kit used to cost less than $20, so you are not looking at a huge expense. From you description of having to manually set the step linkage, you have a link fallen off or the spring in the choke heater is broken and not setting the

[MBZ] Carburetor Trouble

2011-12-31 Thread Jerry Herrman
RE: Autolite 2100 Carburetor - 72 Ford F250 I have now isolated my immediate problem to a plastic part of the choke mechanism which has broken off and allows the choke to fall into whatever unregulated position it feels like. So my question now is: anyone know where I can get a replacement for

Re: [MBZ] Carburetor Trouble

2011-12-31 Thread WILTON
As last resort, can you grind, file, fabricate a replacement using a piece of phenolic, etc. Wilton - Original Message - From: Jerry Herrman jer...@san.rr.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 12:35 PM Subject: [MBZ] Carburetor Trouble RE: Autolite 2100

Re: [MBZ] Carburetor Trouble

2011-12-31 Thread Craig
On Sat, 31 Dec 2011 09:35:18 -0800 Jerry Herrman jer...@san.rr.com wrote: RE: Autolite 2100 Carburetor - 72 Ford F250 I have now isolated my immediate problem to a plastic part of the choke mechanism which has broken off and allows the choke to fall into whatever unregulated position it

Re: [MBZ] Carburetor Trouble

2011-12-31 Thread Dan Penoff
I would suggest that you contact any one of the many carburetor rebuilders on the web and see if they can supply the part. Based on personal experience, it's unlikely that you'll be able to get the individual part, but you might be able to get a complete choke assembly that includes it. Dan

Re: [MBZ] Carburetor Trouble

2011-12-31 Thread Allan Streib
Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com writes: I would suggest that you contact any one of the many carburetor rebuilders on the web and see if they can supply the part. Based on personal experience, it's unlikely that you'll be able to get the individual part, but you might be able to get a complete

Re: [MBZ] Carburetor Trouble

2011-12-31 Thread Curt Raymond
of the sleazy car lots around had anything for them. -Curt Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 09:35:18 -0800 From: Jerry Herrman jer...@san.rr.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Carburetor Trouble Message-ID: E537A5B489AA426BAE31FE87862B6C00@JerryPC Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 RE

Re: [MBZ] Carburetor Trouble

2011-12-31 Thread Mitch Haley
Jerry Herrman wrote: RE: Autolite 2100 Carburetor - 72 Ford F250 I have now isolated my immediate problem to a plastic part of the choke mechanism which has broken off and allows the choke to fall into whatever unregulated position it feels like. So my question now Can you hook up a manual

Re: [MBZ] Carburetor Trouble

2011-12-31 Thread Allan Streib
Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com writes: Yeah used trucks still play an important part pretty much everywhere. Used truck prices are UP. My Dad runs a landfill where last year they needed a new runabout pickup. Needless to say landfill life is hard on trucks. Their old one was like a '95

Re: [MBZ] Carburetor Trouble

2011-12-31 Thread Rick Knoble
From: jer...@san.rr.com Rick Knoble - Not sure if you were directing me to a specific video. The You Tube reference you gave did not bring me to one about a carburetor. More humorous than serious. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnWZKdDvpLk Rick

Re: [MBZ] Carburetor Trouble

2011-12-31 Thread Rick Knoble
Are there individuals out there that still want an old truck with such poor gas mileage, given the direction of gas prices? Rust free? I'd say yes. I live in the heart of the rust belt. Rick ___

Re: [MBZ] Carburetor Trouble

2011-12-31 Thread Michael Canfield
The newer trucks don't get much, if any, better mpg. Mike On Dec 31, 2011 5:40 PM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote: Are there individuals out there that still want an old truck with such poor gas mileage, given the direction of gas prices? Rust free? I'd say yes. I live in the

Re: [MBZ] Carburetor Trouble

2011-12-31 Thread Michael Canfield
Craig, I would guess you have been using ethanol blended gasoline in your snowblower? You need to remove the carb and clean the white buildup out of the idle circuit if so. Continuing to run it the way it is will damage the engine as it is likely running too lean. Mike On Dec 30, 2011 10:48

Re: [MBZ] Carburetor Trouble

2011-12-31 Thread Curt Raymond
and helps remind them who cleans up after them. -Curt Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 15:43:57 -0500 From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Carburetor Trouble Message-ID: m1sjk0wjxu@cs.indiana.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us

Re: [MBZ] Carburetor Trouble

2011-12-31 Thread Michael Canfield
I would simply replace the stock choke setup with a cable. Then you know where it is set for sure. Mike On Dec 31, 2011 12:35 PM, Jerry Herrman jer...@san.rr.com wrote: RE: Autolite 2100 Carburetor - 72 Ford F250 I have now isolated my immediate problem to a plastic part of the choke

Re: [MBZ] Carburetor Trouble

2011-12-31 Thread Curt Raymond
slozuk...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Carburetor Trouble Message-ID: CALHJ_1Dt7N6Fm=zdqc1tjiyzqfn6ijk20f1nmn4zefdmamx...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 The newer trucks don't get much, if any, better mpg. Mike

[MBZ] Carburetor Trouble

2011-12-31 Thread Jerry Herrman
Thanks to Michael Canfield and Mitch Haley for the suggestion of a manually operated choke cable. Actually, some years ago that was the set up, but to pass the smog inspection one year, I was required to install, or more correctly, restore the original automatic choke assembly to its original

Re: [MBZ] Carburetor Trouble

2011-12-31 Thread Allan Streib
Jerry Herrman jer...@san.rr.com writes: Smog check is no longer required in California for a vehicle of this vintage. (Nor is it required of the diesel - is this true in all the states?) It varies state by state. In Indiana for example, there are no smog/emissions checks of any kind in most

Re: [MBZ] Carburetor Trouble

2011-12-30 Thread Dan Penoff
Jerry, If you do a search on Autolite 2100 carb you will find loads of information on this carb. From what you describe, the choke system is not working properly, as when the engine warms up, the choke should pull off on its own. The issue of transition from idle to load suggests that the

Re: [MBZ] Carburetor Trouble

2011-12-30 Thread Craig
On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 09:53:03 -0500 Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: What you describe (stepping on the accelerator at idle and the engine dying or stumbling) suggests that the choke is not opening fully or the volume of fuel from the accelerator pump is excessive. It could also be that when

[MBZ] Carburetor Trouble

2011-12-30 Thread Jerry Herrman
Thanks, Dan for the reference to Autolite. I'll check that. Jerry 82 240D __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 6756 (20111230) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com

[MBZ] Carburetor trouble

2011-12-29 Thread Jerry Herrman
Anyone know of a simple-to-follow, easy to obtain, page(s) of instructions on dealing with my other Mercedes, a 72 Ford F250 360/390 cdi two barrel carb? By way of background (in case one or more of you has experience in this, or enjoys hearing about another's misery), this rarely used camper

Re: [MBZ] Carburetor trouble

2011-12-29 Thread Rick Knoble
Anyone know of a simple-to-follow, easy to obtain, page(s) of instructions on dealing with my other Mercedes, a 72 Ford F250 360/390 cdi two barrel carb? http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=qnWZKdDvpLk Rick Sent from my ATT rotary phone ___

Re: [MBZ] Carburetor trouble

2011-12-29 Thread Dan Penoff
Jerry, This reminds me of the Click and Clack story about the guy who brought a carbureted car into their shop, and the mechanic they had look at it was a young id who had never seen a carb before Anyway, most likely your carb only has the one accelerator pump, and replacing the bad

Re: [MBZ] Carburetor trouble

2011-12-29 Thread Dan Penoff
Sorry - just saw the specifics about the vehicle. Duh. Dan On Dec 29, 2011, at 9:51 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: Jerry, This reminds me of the Click and Clack story about the guy who brought a carbureted car into their shop, and the mechanic they had look at it was a young id who had never

Re: [MBZ] Carburetor trouble

2011-12-29 Thread Peter Frederick
A two barrel carb (Motorcraft aka Holley in this case, most likely) will have a single accelerator pump. You replaced the diaphragm in that, but did you also check the closure of the choke valve, operation of the pull-off, and output from the fuel pump? I would recommend a complete

[MBZ] Carburetor Trouble

2011-12-29 Thread Jerry Herrman
Hi Guys, Thanks for the feedback. I'll address the issues raised by the three who responded. Rick Knoble - Not sure if you were directing me to a specific video. The You Tube reference you gave did not bring me to one about a carburetor. Could you give me that link again, or perhaps the title

Re: [MBZ] Carburetor Trouble

2011-12-29 Thread Allan Streib
Jerry Herrman jer...@san.rr.com writes: proper way to attach a reference to a photo If you attach an image to an email to this list, it will have to be approved before it's sent out, which can sometimes take time. Easiest thing would be to upload the photo to a photo sharing website and then