Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy 1985 300TD with dodgy dickie seats

2012-07-31 Thread andrew strasfogel
Both my wagons have a third seat, the 1983 300TD with the three point harness seatbelts and the 1985 with aftermarket 3rd seat with lap belts. This is slightly ironic since I don't even have a dog to ride back there. On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 10:53 PM, Fmiser wrote: >> Dan Penoff wrote: > >> I can

Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy 1985 300TD with dodgy dickie seats

2012-07-30 Thread Fmiser
> Dan Penoff wrote: > I can't speak for an 85 model, but my 1979 300TD did not have > the three point belts, but basic two point lap belts. I checked the '81. It has 3-point. So does the '85. > I wonder if someone converted this car using an older seat and > belts. That's what I was suspectin

Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy 1985 300TD with dodgy dickie seats

2012-07-30 Thread Dan Penoff
I can't speak for an 85 model, but my 1979 300TD did not have the three point belts, but basic two point lap belts. I wonder if someone converted this car using an older seat and belts. It's certainly easy enough to do, as everything is prepped on the chassis to do it - you merely have to add

Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy 1985 300TD with dodgy dickie seats

2012-07-30 Thread Hendrik & Fay
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/304655-new-me-w123-300td-turbo-wagon.html Has a good picture of a proper factory seat up. Hendrik who is not that blind On 30/07/12 15:14, Fmiser wrote: Hendrik wrote: Those third row seats do not look like factory items, they should have t

Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy 1985 300TD

2012-07-30 Thread Fmiser
> On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 Fmiser wrote: > > Anyone have a rather well sorted out beater pre-'85 wagon > > they want to trade for my rather well sorted out beater 1985 > > wagon? > andrew strasfogel wrote: > Color? Blue, inside and out. > Mileage? 335xxx. But I repaired the odometer, so it's an u

Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy 1985 300TD

2012-07-30 Thread andrew strasfogel
Color? Mileage? Rust? On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 12:03 AM, Fmiser wrote: >> andrew strasfogel wrote: > >> There is no SLS on an 85 Benz. > > My '85 S123 has SLS. > >> The 85 transmission is way superior to earlier models. > > Superior meaning "more durable" or meaning "desirable > function"? > > I

Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy 1985 300TD with dodgy dickie seats

2012-07-30 Thread andrew strasfogel
You guys are the best detectives. On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 1:44 AM, Fmiser wrote: >> > Hendrik wrote: >> > >> > Those third row seats do not look like factory items, they >> > should have three point seat belts. > >> andrew strasfogel wrote: > >> I thought they did. Look again. > > I'm with Hendr

Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy 1985 300TD

2012-07-29 Thread Fmiser
> andrew strasfogel wrote: > There is no SLS on an 85 Benz. My '85 S123 has SLS. > The 85 transmission is way superior to earlier models. Superior meaning "more durable" or meaning "desirable function"? I don't have data for durability, but I don't like how it functions. Higher stall speed

Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy 1985 300TD with dodgy dickie seats

2012-07-29 Thread Fmiser
> > Hendrik wrote: > > > > Those third row seats do not look like factory items, they > > should have three point seat belts. > andrew strasfogel wrote: > I thought they did. Look again. I'm with Hendrik on this one. Image #42. http://i417.photobucket.com/albums/pp258/happybird213/42.jpg Ther

Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy 1985 300TD

2012-07-29 Thread Max Dillon
TO is the trap oxidizer. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD "alanc...@pacbell.net" wrote: >Thanks, that was pretty comprehensive on complaints about the CA 85 >model What the meaning of the acronym TO? > >Alan >85 Turbo > > > ___ http://www.

Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy 1985 300TD

2012-07-29 Thread alanc...@pacbell.net
Jul/12 19:41, andrew strasfogel wrote: My 85 TD is a CA version and it is not particularly finicky. There is no SLS on an 85 Benz. The 85 transmission is way superior to earlier models. On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 9:30 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: Just checked Rusty's site, the air filter on th

Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy 1985 300TD with dodgy dickie seats

2012-07-29 Thread Max Dillon
Air gaps for hood are off, could indicate deeper collision damage. Wrong seat belts for third row. Battery looks a little small, AAA brand? Brake fluid is very dark, wonder what other maintenance had been neglected. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD ___

Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy 1985 300TD

2012-07-29 Thread andrew strasfogel
; >> The 85 transmission is way superior to earlier models. >> >> On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 9:30 PM, Curt Raymond >> wrote: >>> >>> Just checked Rusty's site, the air filter on that is ~$60... >>> >>> -Curt >>> >>> Date: Fri, 27

Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy 1985 300TD with dodgy dickie seats

2012-07-29 Thread andrew strasfogel
I thought they did. Look again. On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 9:34 PM, Hendrik & Fay wrote: > Those third row seats do not look like factory items, they should have three > point seat belts. > > Hendrik > who has three point seat belts way up the back > > On 27/07/12 05:36, andrew strasfogel wrote: >>

Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy 1985 300TD

2012-07-29 Thread ernest breakfield
er models. On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 9:30 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: Just checked Rusty's site, the air filter on that is ~$60... -Curt Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 15:55:49 -0700 From: ernest breakfield To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy 1985 300TD Message-ID:<50131c75.10...@bac

Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy 1985 300TD with SLS and SRS

2012-07-28 Thread Hendrik & Fay
SRS = Safety Restraint System, airbags could be part of the system but pre-tensioning seatbelts are the most common one in earlier Mercs. Hendrik who has SRS but no airbags On 29/07/12 06:00, andrew strasfogel wrote: Oops, I thought you were referring to SRS (airbags). Both my wagons now have

Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy 1985 300TD with dodgy dickie seats

2012-07-28 Thread Hendrik & Fay
Those third row seats do not look like factory items, they should have three point seat belts. Hendrik who has three point seat belts way up the back On 27/07/12 05:36, andrew strasfogel wrote: Seems perfect - can someone find flaws? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-300

Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy 1985 300TD

2012-07-28 Thread alanc...@pacbell.net
I've got a 85 Calif Turbo and it now has a catalytic converter. I know the air cleaners are God awful expensive but I was curious if there were any other complaints with the Calif version other than we don't salt our roads so they stay pretty rust free. Alan 85 Turbo On 7/27/12 3:55 PM,

Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy 1985 300TD

2012-07-28 Thread andrew strasfogel
Oops, I thought you were referring to SRS (airbags). Both my wagons now have SLS. On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 12:07 PM, David Bruckmann wrote: > On 123 wagons, SLS was standard in all markets but could be deleted under > certain circumstances by special order. > > If you can't find the SLS on a 123

Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy 1985 300TD

2012-07-28 Thread David Bruckmann
On 123 wagons, SLS was standard in all markets but could be deleted under certain circumstances by special order. If you can't find the SLS on a 123 wagon, it is because it was removed. D. On 2012-07-28, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > My 85 TD is a CA version and it is not particularly finicky.

Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy 1985 300TD

2012-07-28 Thread Frederick Moir
Curt, et al. My 85 300TD has SLS   Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. > > From: Curt Raymond >To: Diesel List >Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 8:52 AM >Subject: Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy 1985 300TD > >SLS = Self Leveling Suspension which I was

Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy 1985 300TD

2012-07-28 Thread Curt Raymond
SLS = Self Leveling Suspension which I was under the impression all wagons had. Rusty's site lists parts but of course thats not an end all be all. -Curt Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 22:41:33 -0400 From: andrew strasfogel To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy 1985

Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy 1985 300TD

2012-07-27 Thread andrew strasfogel
t; Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 15:55:49 -0700 > From: ernest breakfield > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy 1985 300TD > Message-ID: <50131c75.10...@backyardengineering.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > once i got

Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy 1985 300TD

2012-07-27 Thread Curt Raymond
Just checked Rusty's site, the air filter on that is ~$60... -Curt Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 15:55:49 -0700 From: ernest breakfield To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy 1985 300TD Message-ID: <50131c75.10...@backyardengineering.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset

Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy 1985 300TD

2012-07-27 Thread ernest breakfield
once i got past the fact that it was blue, inside and out,... (my least fav colors!) can't get past the fact that not only is it an '85, but a California '85, at that. not a challenge everyone is willing to put up with! for what it's worth, the dash on my 300D was uncracked when i boug

Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy 1985 300TD

2012-07-27 Thread Fmiser
> andrew strasfogel wrote: > Seems perfect - can someone find flaws? Okay. Beyond being an '85... The middle seat head rests seem to be missing. And the seat belt latches are either missing or under the seat. At the very least, the retaining rubber strap is broken allowing the latch to fall u

Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy 1985 300TD

2012-07-27 Thread Rusty Cullens
It was an option, they are no longer available. They were VERY expensive. -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan Penoff Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 8:10 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy

Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy 1985 300TD

2012-07-26 Thread Fmiser
> andrew strasfogel wrote: > Seems perfect - can someone find flaws? Big flaw - it's an 1985 model. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe

Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy 1985 300TD

2012-07-26 Thread andrew strasfogel
Roof strips are glued on - a dealer installed option. Replacement blue dash was installed years ago before my ownership. On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 8:10 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: > I don't recall there being roof strips to begin with. Were there? > > I'll go look at some pictures of my former 300TD. >

Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy 1985 300TD

2012-07-26 Thread Dan Penoff
I don't recall there being roof strips to begin with. Were there? I'll go look at some pictures of my former 300TD. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jul 26, 2012, at 6:24 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: > My repainted blue 300TD has a replacement dash - not that uncommon. > It also has replacement roof

Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy 1985 300TD

2012-07-26 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
When was it replaced? Was it a used one or a new one back when they were available? Sent from my iPhone On Jul 26, 2012, at 6:24 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: My repainted blue 300TD has a replacement dash - not that uncommon. It also has replacement roof strips. Not a big deal to me. On Thu,

Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy 1985 300TD

2012-07-26 Thread andrew strasfogel
My repainted blue 300TD has a replacement dash - not that uncommon. It also has replacement roof strips. Not a big deal to me. On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 4:33 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: > That too. I was lusting over it and the thought of a cross country trip in it > from CA to FL with that ICE COLD ai

Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy 1985 300TD

2012-07-26 Thread Dan Penoff
That too. I was lusting over it and the thought of a cross country trip in it from CA to FL with that ICE COLD air. Dan On Jul 26, 2012, at 4:27 PM, G Mann wrote: > The major flaw I see with this car is that it is not setting in your > driveway cooling down from the trip home. > > > On Thu,

Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy 1985 300TD

2012-07-26 Thread G Mann
The major flaw I see with this car is that it is not setting in your driveway cooling down from the trip home. On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 1:06 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: > Seems perfect - can someone find flaws? > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-300-td-tdt-d-300td-300t

Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy 1985 300TD

2012-07-26 Thread Dan Penoff
Two things that caught my eye - the "rub strips" on the roof are not factory, and the dash isn't cracked. Dash cracking is almost mandatory with these cars, especially the blue ones. With over 200k on the clock I find it intriguing that it's not cracked. Could it have been replaced? The engine

[MBZ] Droolworthy 1985 300TD

2012-07-26 Thread andrew strasfogel
Seems perfect - can someone find flaws? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-300-td-tdt-d-300td-300tdt-1985-Mercedes-300TD-turbo-diesel-wagon-2-owners-/271021302209?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item3f1a20e1c1#v4-43 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For n