It is the greatest feeling to hear the engine fire up after putting so
much time and effort into a project. Nice job Don and son.
Mike
On Apr 3, 2010, at 9:00 PM, OK Don wrote:
The new keys arrived this afternoon - followed shortly by the son.
We took
battery off of the trickle charger,
The new keys arrived this afternoon - followed shortly by the son. We took
battery off of the trickle charger, installed it, shifted into neutral (in
case the clutch wasn't actually bled), and turned the key. THe engine fired
right up, no extra cranking (we filled the new fuel filter with Diesel
So now you have the blue car with a manny tranny in it? Are you going
to put the other one back on the road or what?
OK Don wrote:
The new keys arrived this afternoon - followed shortly by the son. We took
battery off of the trickle charger, installed it, shifted into neutral (in
case the
Contrats! Glad the effort worked.
The new keys arrived this afternoon - followed shortly by the son. We took
battery off of the trickle charger, installed it, shifted into neutral (in
case the clutch wasn't actually bled), and turned the key. THe engine fired
right up, no extra cranking (we
Yes - the blue car is manny now. The gold car is sitting. We'll probably
sell the engine, auto tranny, and body seperately. Make an offer on any or
all parts ---
On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 9:09 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote:
So now you have the blue car with a manny tranny in it?
Somebody stole he exhaust? That is weird. I have the CD somewhere Im
sure, just have to find it.
OK Don wrote:
A week later - the update:
The clutch disk pilot tool arrived Monday, and the proper sized clutch disk
arrived Tuesday, so we were all set for this weekend. We got the clutch
OK Don, et al.
I have a 201 CD that you can have.
Just need an address.
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Diesel preferred.
On 3/28/2010 9:49 PM, OK Don wrote:
There are several mystery vacuum lines, and some connectors on the IP that
have no wires -- this is not new, both cars were in this condition when we
A week later - the update:
The clutch disk pilot tool arrived Monday, and the proper sized clutch disk
arrived Tuesday, so we were all set for this weekend. We got the clutch
installed, the engine and tranny mated, drive shaft with new flex disks
installed, the shifter linkages in place
Congrats. Those kind of projects always take longer than forecast.
At least you can see the end now.
A week later - the update:
The clutch disk pilot tool arrived Monday, and the proper sized clutch disk
arrived Tuesday, so we were all set for this weekend. We got the clutch
installed, the
On Sun, 28 Mar 2010 20:49:59 -0500 OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote:
Found that the rear section of the exhaust that wasn't cracked at the
front flange, had been stolen from under the gold car during the week.
Boy is THAT irritating! I'm sorry that happened to you.
Craig
Craig McCluskey wrote:
On Sun, 28 Mar 2010 20:49:59 -0500 OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote:
Found that the rear section of the exhaust that wasn't cracked at the
front flange, had been stolen from under the gold car during the week.
Boy is THAT irritating! I'm sorry that happened to you.
I
Crap - the proper sized clutch disk didn't arrive today. Two day air doesn't
count for much when it takes them two days to get it to DHL. We're working
outside - it's been beautiful weather so far, but it's raining now, and
we're supposed to get 1-3 inches of snow tomorrow. Guess the cars will be
Attachment is an open documents drawing -
It shows a fiction damper in the throttle assembly for a standard tranny car
-- do you have this in yours?
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 10:33 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote:
The throttle linkage on the engine looks the same, with the exception
I was able to confirm via the EPC datacard, that this 5 speed is the
original tranny for the gold car.
When did MB start producing the 124 in Europe? This case is marked with 124
-- very strange.
--
OK Don
Panic! (the national past time).
-- next part --
A non-text
OK Don wrote:
I was able to confirm via the EPC datacard, that this 5 speed is the
original tranny for the gold car.
When did MB start producing the 124 in Europe? This case is marked with 124
-- very strange.
1986 in USA, so I would assume 1985 in Europe.
Mitch.
Now that I knew where to look, I see that the standard tranny engine has the
ball fittings, but no damper, while the auto tranny engine does have a
damper. Strange.
Where does the engine serial number hide on a 601 engine? I haven't been
able to find it yet.
We finished the transplant of the
On Thu, 18 Mar 2010 20:55:22 -0600 OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote:
Now that I knew where to look, I see that the standard tranny engine
It has nice new shoes now, new lines to the calipers, and new pads. The
front brakes are next --
Keep up the good work!
Craig
Test mules where built in 83 and the 124 was shown at shows in 84 but
not sold until 85.
Hendrik
Mitch Haley wrote:
OK Don wrote:
I was able to confirm via the EPC datacard, that this 5 speed is the
original tranny for the gold car.
When did MB start producing the 124 in Europe? This case
If changing the clutch disk involves pulling the engine, I would also
highly recommend buying a new pressure plate too, inless the manual
has adjustment specs. I tried replacing the disk only on an MB
ONCE. I think we had the trans off and back on three times. Just a
warning, YMMV.
We
I'd forgotten about the kick-down switch, which will have to be
transferred
to the gold car.
The cruise control amp is different, and there's a switch on the clutch.
The neutral safety switch wiring harness must also be swapped, and
there's a damper on the manny's throttle to move too, and the
They are entirely in the channel, not popped into the holes. There are
dimples on both sides of the hole/nut, but not spot welds. I got one of them
to move up and down after pounding the bolt with a hammer, but it didn't
want to slide within the channel. I'll try a long, thin bar to see if I can
The throttle linkage on the engine looks the same, with the exception of the
bowden cable to the auto tranny. Haven't seen the damper yet, is it inside
the car?
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 8:55 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote:
The cruise control amp is different, and there's a switch on
The throttle linkage on the engine looks the same, with the exception
of the
bowden cable to the auto tranny. Haven't seen the damper yet, is it
inside
the car?
Between the intake manifold and the arm on the IP.
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Neither of these engines/cars have one - will have to look in the EPC to see
it. I think both of these cars are FrankenBenzs -- mixed and matched from
other cars over the years. The standard car did drive smoothly before we
imbarked on major transplant surgery, so we'll see how it works
On
Yup - p/n 601 070 13 67, called a dashpot. However, the EPC doesn't indicate
where it attaches - it's just floating is space to the right of everything
else.
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 1:42 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote:
Neither of these engines/cars have one - will have to look in the EPC to
Todays progress - Got the auto tranny seperated from the blue engine, the
pedal assemblies are out of both cars, as are the shifters. Got the clutch
cylinder hydraulic lines moved from the gold to the blue car.
Installed the flywheel on the blue engine (after another run to Harbor
Freight for a
FWIW the 230MM is for the Gwagen/v8 class. Sounds like you are having
fun. By any chance are the speedo cable ends different like they can be
on the 123? I just bought a 124 on ebay with a trans on its way out.
Will certainly be looking for a 5 spd!
-Rolf
OK Don wrote:
Todays progress - Got
Ahhrrrggg - nope, haven't looked that closely at the speedo ends yet!
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 7:52 PM, Rolf Martin-Hoster r...@winmutt.comwrote:
FWIW the 230MM is for the Gwagen/v8 class. Sounds like you are having fun.
By any chance are the speedo cable ends different like they can be on the
I know the 85 auto end was a square and the 81 manual trans was slotted.
-Rolf
OK Don wrote:
Ahhrrrggg - nope, haven't looked that closely at the speedo ends yet!
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 7:52 PM, Rolf Martin-Hoster r...@winmutt.comwrote:
FWIW the 230MM is for the Gwagen/v8 class. Sounds
Neither of these engines/cars have one - will have to look in the EPC
to see
it. I think both of these cars are FrankenBenzs -- mixed and matched
from
other cars over the years. The standard car did drive smoothly before
we
embarked on major transplant surgery, so we'll see how it works
Yes! You did capture it -
http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/mb190d/tdamper.html
Thanks!
You must have the 201 CD(s?) - I need to get them (it).
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 8:36 PM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote:
Neither of these engines/cars have one - will have to look in the EPC to
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of OK Don
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 7:53 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Epic double tranny swap/conversion week
We decided to pull the engine/tranny combo rather than continue to fight it
in place. It took a 24oz. hammer to get the 6 point
One - there wasn't room to get to the bolt, with everything in the car. It
came right out with a six point socket once we had room to get a socket on
it (we were using an open end wrench before)!
Two - I had considered it, if the surface wasn't nice and smooth, which it
is. I expected it to be
Another difference between the two cars - the auto tranny is missing three
of the mounting-to-the-engine bolts.
I'd forgotten about the kick-down switch, which will have to be transferred
to the gold car.
The nut plates for the transmission rear mounting cross member seem to be
held in place - I
We decided to pull the engine/tranny combo rather than continue to fight it
in place. It took a 24oz. hammer to get the 6 point socket onto the buggered
bolt. We would not have been able to do that in the car. This engine/car
seems to have double the wires and vacuum tube that a 123/61x car does.
On Mon, 15 Mar 2010 19:52:54 -0600 OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote:
Tomorrow we'll pull the engine/auto tranny from the blue car - hope
we're faster on this one!
So do we! :-)
Craig
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We started yesterday on the standard-auto tranny swap between two '84 190Ds.
So far, we're only one bolt away from removing the standard tranny from the
gold car. But we spent all afternoon today on it, and all we accomplished
was to round the corners of the bolt head. I think we're going to
This sort of thing is why I always recommend pulling them both at the
same time. By now, you'd be going back in
Peter
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Yea, those are a pain to get out. I have had the tranny in/out of that
light blue 190D in the back about 2 or 3 times. I think I ended up
using a MANY extensions to get the ratchet way back behind the tranny in
the tunnel. I did also try the unbolting ending and sliding foward
trick, I dont
Might end up that way - there are way too many tangles fo wires and vacuum
hoses for such a small Diesel engine, built 26 years ago. I still can't see
where the 1/2 inch thick group goes after it disappears under the IP, even
after removing the airbox.
On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 7:46 PM, Peter
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