Re: [MBZ] Glow plug conversion Q.

2010-11-05 Thread Curt Raymond
esting. I think I'm going to both make up new wires (maybe 10ga, I like to go overboard) and install the new plugs and see how it goes. -Curt Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 22:13:25 -0500 From: Fmiser To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Glow plug conversion Q. Message-ID: <2010

Re: [MBZ] Glow plug conversion Q.

2010-11-05 Thread Curt Raymond
I think I'd dislike the button system less if it would heat 'em in 15 seconds... So basically put 'em in and see what happens. -Curt Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 21:22:35 -0500 From: Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Glow plug con

Re: [MBZ] Glow plug conversion Q.

2010-11-05 Thread Fmiser
> Curt Raymond wrote: > Based on it taking 60+ seconds of glow at ~40F to start the > car I'm thinking I've got a bad plug. > > If the wires to the plugs were too small (like in Phillip's #3 > diagram) would they just melt or would the plugs be starved > for power? The extra resistance will caus

Re: [MBZ] Glow plug conversion Q.

2010-11-04 Thread Fmiser
> Curt Raymond wrote: > Good diagrams! Thanks :) I make money doing that sort of thing so I ought to be decent at it. > Mine is like the bottom example already, as I said originally > the ground wire at the end is NOT attached to anything, its > just hanging there. If there is only one electr

Re: [MBZ] Glow plug conversion Q.

2010-11-04 Thread Dieselhead
car I'm thinking I've got a bad plug. If the wires to the plugs were too small (like in Phillip's #3 diagram) would they just melt or would the plugs be starved for power? -Curt Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 17:13:33 -0800 From: Jim Cathey To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re:

Re: [MBZ] Glow plug conversion Q.

2010-11-04 Thread WILTON
or power? -Curt Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 17:13:33 -0800 From: Jim Cathey To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Glow plug conversion Q. Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed If you don't have the wavy toaster racks, and GP's with two effecti

Re: [MBZ] Glow plug conversion Q.

2010-11-04 Thread Curt Raymond
Nov 2010 17:13:33 -0800 From: Jim Cathey To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Glow plug conversion Q. Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed If you don't have the wavy toaster racks, and GP's with two effective terminals (post, and ring) you

Re: [MBZ] Glow plug conversion Q.

2010-11-04 Thread Curt Raymond
erm anyway. -Curt Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 19:14:50 -0500 From: Fmiser To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Glow plug conversion Q. Message-ID: <20101104191450.3694d720.fmi...@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > Curt Raymond wrote: > What you&

Re: [MBZ] Glow plug conversion Q.

2010-11-04 Thread Jim Cathey
If you don't have the wavy toaster racks, and GP's with two effective terminals (post, and ring) you do not have loop (series) glow plugs! The second terminal on the frontmost one is tied to the ground strap. Do you already have parallel glow plugs? Maybe one or more are not working? -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Glow plug conversion Q.

2010-11-04 Thread Dieselhead
#3 is what I was describing to Curt. Three short wires with terminals on each end. Original wire to the back plug. > Curt Raymond wrote: What you've diagrammed is what I have now (and described in my original email). No. The series plugs _depends_ on there being two terminals per glow

Re: [MBZ] Glow plug conversion Q.

2010-11-04 Thread Fmiser
> Curt Raymond wrote: > What you've diagrammed is what I have now (and described in my > original email). No. The series plugs _depends_ on there being two terminals per glow plug. I gave up on trying to do this with ASCII art. Attached is a PDF. --Philip -- next part

Re: [MBZ] Glow plug conversion Q.

2010-11-04 Thread Curt Raymond
rt pulling it out to be sure. -Curt Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 12:18:28 -0500 From: Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Glow plug conversion Q. Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" First of

Re: [MBZ] Glow plug conversion Q.

2010-11-04 Thread Dieselhead
First of all, you will be replacing a series system with a system wired in parallel, so you need to loose the ground wire completely. If you buy the kit, you get new wires. I made my own. you need about 4" of 10 ga stranded wire, and two loop terminals per wire. You need three of these wires

Re: [MBZ] Glow plug conversion Q.

2010-11-04 Thread Frederick W Moir
Curt, et al. My olde '81 Rabbit had a copper strap connecting all 4 plugs (insulated between) that went to the (puny) timer/relay. Only benefit of separate wires is even -ish volts-drop-per-meter for each GP and maybe easier fault location. TTFN Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. On 11/4/201

[MBZ] Glow plug conversion Q.

2010-11-04 Thread Curt Raymond
Okay the '78 240D is getting annoying to start with the old loop type plugs and I want to replace them. I've bought the proper pencil type big base plugs from Rusty so I wonder if I can swap them in now and get to updating the relay later. My system has a solenoid (big relay) at the firewall. A